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Best hair rendering (not favorite hairstyle, but actual good looking hair rendering technique)
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Kid Aloy was awful. Luckily it only lasts for like 45 minutes but yeah what a horrid way to open up.
Hair's good but the tits are whack. No leather corset is going to move an inch.
surprised no one has mentioned tomb raider yet
which to me has the best hair yet
I can't stand this weird shiny look a lot of hair this gen has. It does not look right at all, and really bugs me. Tomb Raider does it probably the least offensively (see Dragon Age: Inquisition for the most egregious example), but it still looks so off to me. Hair looks like it's made of plastic. Or wax. It's so weird. It's way to shiny and reflective, and doesn't even look anything like it self shadows. It doesn't look fuzzy. It just looks...idk, really bad. One of my most hated aspects of this gen. Almost akin to last gens BLOOM EVERYWHERE for me.
Limitations of realtime rendering. It's much easier to make convincing hair for shorter hair. The effort itself tho is commendable, as all three RE engine titles feature characters with long hair.
I agree with you.
This is not just an engine performing as it should, it is also the auteurmanship of Capcom's directors and designers and artists, creating for us, male characters with the slickest, sexiest looking hairstyles; the sort that makes girls swoon, the kind that makes the most straight males uncomfortable in their panties; it is Capcom being the rock gods of sexy hair on iconic male heroes!
Jesus Christ that burger is amazing.
Some people (like me) have really wiry facial hair, and that's kinda what our beards are like.
Thanks for this. Hope we uncover a bit more about it in the future.
Yeah, that's ridiculous. Looks like DOA bodypaint instead of anything resembling actual clothing.
This is their answer to devs saying It's one of the worst engines to create with?
No, this is the answer of a small team within a 300+ person group that only works on the engine (not games) to the problem of said engine not really having any support for hair/hair physics.
FUCKING THANK YOU
JFC the "devs literally only work on one thing at a time why is this completely unrelated team they working on X instead of X" logic drives me off the wall.
the AA hair in division 2 is terrible. especially the hair lines
It's also the sweat. Uncharted 4 had good physics animations for either dry and wet hair. The lost legacy adds sweat. Chloe's hair strains touching their face got sticky while the strains on the farthest from their body are dry.
It also moves and behaves very convincing, in stark contrast to Lara's TressFX which might be more advanced and more taxing, but moves and behaves very strange and unrealistic as if Lara was constantly under water.
I think no other game does this.
They all look great but it's very difficult to judge the best unless we split them into -
CGI models.
Cut scene models.
In game models.
FFXV's in game hair is astounding. That engine is fantastic. Anyone know if they're using it for FF16 or they going with UE4?
CGI models.
Cut scene models.
In game models.
FFXV's in game hair is astounding. That engine is fantastic. Anyone know if they're using it for FF16 or they going with UE4?
Supposedly the next-gen game Tabata's group was working on is still using it (I believe last we heard this game was still going forward even if Tabata no longer works for SE). Other then that I don't believe there is another game on the engine. There is a cousin version of the engine running for FFXIV, but that was specifically designed for an MMO environments needs and they really haven't been adding some of the stuff they made for FFXV to it so its basically a separate engine completely now. Everything else supposedly is UE4 for next/current gen.
Problem I have with many of the capcom and other Japanese style games is that the hair moves nice but is often too shiney or doesn't look different in different lighting conditions. Aloys hair in Horizon looks like the best of this gen.
Obviously not exactly cutting edge nowadays, but I've always really liked how Team ICO were able to emulate 3D fur on the PS2 by layering transparent polygonal shells over the colossi. It's surprisingly effective, especially at lower resolutions:
Looking closer at the models you can see the separate layers, each one having a black and white noise texture that gets progressively darker the closer to the skin, with the color generated through vertex coloring. To give the fur direction they simply pushed and pulled different layers across the mesh:
They also used the same effect for moss and grass in certain areas. I guess in a way, despite it being pretty old school it's not too dissimilar to some of the techniques more modern games use - by and large games still use "hair cards" rather then rendering actual hair splines after all, and I believe POM mapping is kind of done in a similar way using depth layers, just within a shader rather then actual geometry.
Here's a blog post breaking down the effect with a lot more images.
Looking closer at the models you can see the separate layers, each one having a black and white noise texture that gets progressively darker the closer to the skin, with the color generated through vertex coloring. To give the fur direction they simply pushed and pulled different layers across the mesh:
They also used the same effect for moss and grass in certain areas. I guess in a way, despite it being pretty old school it's not too dissimilar to some of the techniques more modern games use - by and large games still use "hair cards" rather then rendering actual hair splines after all, and I believe POM mapping is kind of done in a similar way using depth layers, just within a shader rather then actual geometry.
Here's a blog post breaking down the effect with a lot more images.
I think Witcher 3 with Hairworks damn good, especially with movements!
Also look how horse hair epic too. :D
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Also look how horse hair epic too. :D
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