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Bethesda banning Fallout 76 cheaters, modders caught in crossfire, appeal system in place
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I'm not going to speak for other people but the issue I take with this is that Bethesda's anti-cheat for Fallout 76 is poor (look it up) and will cause false flags.
What did Fallout do to Bethesda? They seem to be doing all in their power to drag the poor carcass of this once great franchise through the mud while beating it like so much cadaverous horse flesh. Stahp... sell Fallout to people who care and are capable of creating a good RPG.
Hype, ambition, and fan forgiveness.
Bethesda was seen as ahead of their time releasing large open RPGs with tons of interactivity and quests for hours during a gen where linear games and smaller spaces were the norm. They were seen as a peak. Now time has caught up with them due to the fact that everyone and their mother are releasing open world games this gen.
Bethesda dev studio is now the retired athlete who doesn't realized shit has changed around them after a decade(Skyrim), and tries to step back into the sport with the same strategies as before, not realizing it isn't working for them until they finally take a hard loss. This is that hard loss and I'm hoping they learn from it.
Outside of Era, Fallout 3 & 4 reviewed well, sold well, and is admired by fans.
I know it's a popular fad/pastime to hate on BGS here. That's fine.
But if you think everything BGS leading up to 76 is a complete bust, you're wildly out of touch with what the gaming community thinks about them.
76 is a big fat stinker. But that doesn't erase the success of Morrowind through Fallout 4 from a critical, commercial and mindshare perspective.
So they can't see the difference between a mod and a cheat ? Well, this isnt a surprise at all.
Probably because Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas and Fallout 4 are widely considered good games by the majority of folk.
A lot of clueless "lol Bethesda" people in this thread just jumping on the bandwagon. I don't particularly like Bethesda, and I don't own or plan to own Fallout 76, but from a multiplayer perspective it makes sense to ban people for modifying an online game in any way. "But it only changes the saturation and makes it look better".. Well, that might be an advantage. And there is no way the game can actually see that is what is actually happening, so better safe than sorry. It might as well be a mod that makes you see tags over every players head on the server. This could be avoided though, if you want Bethesda to really be able to dig into what your computer is doing while you're playing. But then everyone would cry that they are spying, and probably rightfully so. So what do you guys want them to do? "Fix the game" I hear you say. Well, yes, that would be good. But it has nothing to do with people being banned for breaking the rules of the game as it stand now. The game seems like shit, but if you get banned, it's you own fault.
I also don't really care for Bethesda, but I'm not about to say Fallout 3 and 4 were trash. That's just... wrong. Outright wrong.
And yes, if you get banned, it's your own fault. Don't try to make banning people for cheating out to be a good thing because "it's Fallout 76". Cheating is not a good thing. Sorry.
And yes, if you get banned, it's your own fault. Don't try to make banning people for cheating out to be a good thing because "it's Fallout 76". Cheating is not a good thing. Sorry.
This. When people heard that a new Fallout was being made, they were hyped. When they heard it was a multiplayer game with no NPCs, that hype turned into hate. There's definitely still a very large audience for Bethesda's traditional open-world RPGs, warts and all.
Like the Elder Scrolls games, there's a lot of jank but there was really nothing of that scope on the market... but now? Open world is not enough to sell a game on and being janky is unacceptable. I've been playing Fallout 4 again to mess about a bit and that thing is really, really hard to play after playing other games that have come out more recently.
That said, 76 sounds WAY worse than anything else they've put out.
Isn't this more an issue with the suits running the entire company? At least some of the stories I've been reading about make it sound like they've partially hamstrung the developers with their demands and focus.
No, it's the journalist who can't see the difference. Read the title of this thread and article, and then read article or at least the OP to see what I mean.
An advantage, you say? Over whom, Super Mutant #781? Fallout 76 isn't (in practice) a PVP game, its players aren't competing with each other. You can't just jump from "the game is online" to "cheating is intolerable" without going through the intermediate steps like "what does cheating in this game actually mean, and who would be harmed."
Because we, the consumers, can't tell the difference between a glitch and a Bethesda Game
I think this is both true and false.
A lot of competition has risen in the field as the open-world sandbox rpg has risen in popularity.
Lots of games like Witcher 3, Assasin's Creed, and more look drop dead gorgeous next to Bethesda rpgs. So if you're just looking at screenshots it's easy to imagine that Bethesda has lost their game.
But the rub is that none of these other games are doing what Bethesda games do under the hood. It's simply different design philosophies.
Some wonder why no other devs attempt to copy the Bethesda Formula from a design perspective. That's because it's not easy. You have to make visual compromises when you divert prosessing power to algorithm systems.
It creates a product that feels entirely unique in an unceasing crowded sandbox genre. Some people may not respond to the possibility space limitless interaction offers in BGS rpgs, or more specifically the visual and stability compromises they nessesitate.
But there's a HUGE market out there who understands the give and take found in Bethesda games and are completely signed up because they're offering a product no other developers aspire to.
I'll never understand the ire leveled aganst Bethesda in this context when they're simply off to the side doing their wholly unique own thing.
Doubly so when there's so many other devs out there offing the same flavor of gorgeous yet static worlds to explore.
I'd never fault someone for not jiving with the Bethesda Formula. But the egregious hate leveled on them because they're not playing follow the leader will continue to be a mystery to me.
There is a good explanation for this but I can't tell right now. I promise it is worth
They give you a greater advantage when they ban you, though- the advantage of not playing the piece of steaming garbage that is fallout 76
Nice appeal to popularity.
I don't think anyone of us who are criticizing Bethesda's modern Fallout incarnations cares about what's popular.
Yes and all those cinephiles that shit on transformers forgot that they were popular too
Eh...were the recent Transformers movies critically revered? I honestly haven't been following.
I distinctly remember an interview with Todd Howard saying they will support mods 100% just not at launch.
Well it's no longer launch.
I'm also still waiting for their reversal on supporting a single player mode; I bet that shit never comes and they just try to sweep it under the rug and hope nobody notices, like people aren't hawks right now!
Well it's no longer launch.
I'm also still waiting for their reversal on supporting a single player mode; I bet that shit never comes and they just try to sweep it under the rug and hope nobody notices, like people aren't hawks right now!
This is about cheats, not mods. They are banning people who are running third party apps while playing, not people who mod their game. Most apps that need to be running to affect an online game are intercepting network data; while some benign tools can use that, usually it's for cheating.
Why should anybody defend a corporation? The reason Bethesda is getting this "hate" is because they've done stupid things and have been getting progressively worse.
I have cosmetic mods for FG's I play on PC
Have not been banned yet. So your wrong, also this is dumb and why you are defending a coorperation over this dumb thing
Pvp is non existent for the most part from my experience. The few times I've PVPd, I got 1-3 shotted by melee. Discovered how OP/broken melee build is in this game and decided never to PVP again.
They don't care about cheating, they care about the mods. They're trying to sell people $15 power armor paint jobs. If you can just mod your power armor to look however you want, nobody is going to buy their overpriced crap.