it's not dumb to care about where a politicians money comes from. it's worse to not care
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Beto O’Rourke Enters the 2020 Presidential Campaign
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it's not dumb to care about where a politicians money comes from. it's worse to not care
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That's nice. 😊
To me it's a sign that Beto's gonna make a splash in the primary and that people with their chosen favorite candidates are gonna latch onto anything to tear anyone down who may further complicate the primaries. The knives don't come out immediately for a candidate unless they have a real shot.
We're gonna see some real shit happening in this election cycle, specifically the weaponizing of ignorance. It worked extremely well in 2016 and will only get worse and more sophisticated.
The most hilarious thing is when Beto finishes 4th in Iowa after being attacked by Bernie fans, while Biden wins with 45% of the vote.
so where is the line?
does the Janitor at shell get to donate? What about the helpdesk monkeys for BP? OR What about VP of HR? or the CIO of Chevvron?
His words are truth though, and his plans, despite 4chan. Democrats are going to lose another election because the party is super diverse with a lot of conflicting representation. I'm voting for the winner, whoever that is. But I know a lot of dems wont do the same.
I'm not surprised that Sirota (lol) article is making a comeback now that he's officially announced. Man that thread was a tire fire, this one looks promising too.
Some of the examples are on loose footing but it can basically be summed up in one sentence; hes promising bipartisanship despite all the evidence against why thats a terrible idea. So duh.
So he's useless.
We need net zero emissions ASAP. Anyone standing in the way of that is an enemy to the continued survival of humanity.
Here's hoping he goes away, and soon.
Color me shocked that a Bernie stan is attacking Beto at the same time as declaring Beto's supporters to be morons.
Keep 'em coming.
The actual article was good,it was just a combative title to draw clicks.
Same guy apparently wrote this :
Looks like he wasn't much more informed in 2016 than he gives credit to himself as being in 2008 then.
I think this time it's more of a "he's not [insert my favorite candidate], so he sucks".
Of course policies matter. People saying otherwise are nuts. They're not talked about in public much, because people know overall what policies a candidate has, simply based on party affiliation. And also because the details are complicated, and it's easy to get hung up on a single small detail of policy. We'll hear policy discussed in a little bit of detail during the primary debates, though.
They're not the #1 thing in national elections, though. Which is ridiculous - policy should be the #1 reason to vote for anyone. But no. In presidential elections, everything from "looking strong" to hairdo to height will be given as much or more attention than policies receive. After a presidential debate, the media will have "body language experts", not policy experts, on TV. It's so fucking stupid.
Why does democracy deserve to exist? I would say, because at least when you elect bad leaders, it's your own damn fault (collectively). And at least they will be systematically replaced.
Can't wait until we either all die or, of those who are left, are left in either authoritarian hellholes or fuedalist mad-max esque hellscapes.
Props there. Definitely better than Booker on keeping the fillibuster.
wonder how he feels about the current makeup of the supreme court now?Same guy apparently wrote this :
Looks like he wasn't much more informed in 2016 than he gives credit to himself as being in 2008 then.
Anyone who whispers sweet nothings of Court packing to me, has my support
Ugh he's still a fucking idiot thenSame guy apparently wrote this :
Looks like he wasn't much more informed in 2016 than he gives credit to himself as being in 2008 then.
guess who will get the most democratic senators elected down ballot
you think beto will veto good progressive legislation because he's some centrist manchurian candidate?
you think beto will veto good progressive legislation because he's some centrist manchurian candidate?
Bernie and Beto have like nothing in common other than running as Democrats (and even then Bernie's "NoT a DeMoCrAt").
Lmao
Lmfao to both of these takes.
I despise America.
Bernie's the least bad, but even his is okay at best.
Apparently the in-joke over there according to my Republican friend is that with Trump they're not getting a wall, but at least with Yang they're getting no wall and $1000/month.
The UBI thing is definitely a big positive. I feel it isn't time for that yet, but we need to start talking about it eventually.
What did he say about foreign policy? I'm honestly curious.
I'll never get the whole "purity tests" argument. What if Biden announced tomorrow saying we needed to deport every Muslim? Would that be acceptable? If we're saying purity tests are bad, then by your logic just because he wants an Islam-free America doesn't mean he should be deconsidered, right?
He'll probably increase it to an equal number cause he's a centrist and all that jazz.
Individuals that work at a company do not necessarily share the opinions of the executives and shareholders of that company.
I live and work in the State of Oklahoma. Oil and gas is our primary industry here. Your standard is so high that you'd basically never vote for a Democrat from Oklahoma, for any reason. Texas is in a similar boat.
Health care will be solved through the power of listening! Why has nobody thought of this before?
Uh, isn't allowing Medicare buy-in for all a form of Medicare for All?
That was the goalpost in 2008 before Obama caved and went for RomneyCare for the ACA. The public option is okay, but it still has flaws that standard single payer solve altogether, such as the issue of funding for a variable amount of constituents as opposed to the entire nation. If you have to implement new tax policy that raises revenue for the entire nation's worth of healthcare anyway, you may as well just guarantee healthcare to everybody rather than have people explicitly buy into it.
No. That's a public option.
Medicare for All is abolishing private insurance for basic care, as well as improving it to include dental and vision and making it free at point of service.
https://www.radioiowa.com/2019/03/14/orourke-kicks-off-2020-presidential-race-in-keokuk/
There's some key things screwed up on that transcript. At the end for instance he's saying that every single person needs to be covered in the solution to this as opposed to "we need to talk to every single person"
Also the reporter is interviewing Beto while Beto is driving his car to the next town.
This has nothing to do with pro or anti Beto, but wtf lol. Was he too busy for a sit-down or in-person interview?
There are lots of candidates pushing for the public option instead of going all in on single payer, not just Beto. All of these options are being sold as "Medicare for All" because of the political advantages of using the term. Abolishing private insurance is not currently popular, even amongst Democrats.
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