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Beto O’Rourke Enters the 2020 Presidential Campaign
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I feel very strange that the two I've been most impressed with so far have been the lesser knowns (Inslee and Buttigieg).
I'm not that guy who just tries to go for the lesser-knowns (I admittedly liked Richardson a lot in 2008, but then liked Hillary and then voted Obama), and then I voted Hillary in 2016. But as someone who thinks climate change is a big deal and as someone who studies meteorology and likes reading about it and the climate, a guy like Inslee is so vitally important. Buttigieg has just really impressed me in general and he seems like a true liberal from what I've seen so far.
But that's just really who I'm impressed with. This far out, I'm not deciding my vote because I like seeing how candidates handle primary campaigning and how they handle debates.
I'm not that guy who just tries to go for the lesser-knowns (I admittedly liked Richardson a lot in 2008, but then liked Hillary and then voted Obama), and then I voted Hillary in 2016. But as someone who thinks climate change is a big deal and as someone who studies meteorology and likes reading about it and the climate, a guy like Inslee is so vitally important. Buttigieg has just really impressed me in general and he seems like a true liberal from what I've seen so far.
But that's just really who I'm impressed with. This far out, I'm not deciding my vote because I like seeing how candidates handle primary campaigning and how they handle debates.
To be fair policy wise he is not to the right on obama on anything. He is pretty much a carbon copy of Obama when it comes to policy. This is a weird talking point that started from Bernie fans that really isn't true.
If you want a moderate Biden will be your guy.
Hmm. Beto seems like he would best be paired with one of the other candidates. Maybe Harris. Warren if I thought she had a chance. Pairs like that actually start to seem appealing and like winning teams, more than any of them individually.
Even Bernie could work there, just with the minus of them both being white men.
Pending Biden's debate performance, I now lean to him losing. Assuming he announced.
Even Bernie could work there, just with the minus of them both being white men.
Pending Biden's debate performance, I now lean to him losing. Assuming he announced.
I'm a beto guy for sure. But if he doesn't get the nomination it doesn't mean I'll start attacking other candidates. We'll see how it plays.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/03/beto-orourke-cover-story?verso=true
Beto's clearly running to the left of where Obama did in 2008.
Vanity Fair said:
Vanity Fair said:
That is true, his campaign is leaning a lot more left than his Texas race did (which makes sense, Texas is a lot more conservative than the country as a whole).
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Reading the transcript.... he had no idea what he was saying lol
"We don't need someone who wastes time reading BOOKS, we need a strong leader who take ACTION for, let's say, the catastrophic humanitarian crisis that's happening at our borders!"
He would. But I want that role for Mayor Pete. Would take Beto, though.
It's impossible for him to run for the Texas senate race, Texas has a very early date to commit to running. Iowa won't even have voted yet. The chances of him running for senate are over.
Strong disagree. The democrats need to turn left, hard. The very last thing they need is a centrist wet noodle like Doug Jones.
I mean, Beto is obviously not a centrist. He isn't Biden. It's an attack line on him from Bernie fans but it has no basis in reality. They try the same and just as falsely on Kamala Harris.
That all sounds right to me. As of now he's got my vote. We'll see where things stand by the time I get to vote. The Virginia primary is a long road from here.
"Progressives" will start using this to attack him as well.
Anywho, glad he is in the race. I feel better about this primary than the one in '16.
Cool. If ya wanted Biden but younger and less creepy uncley
I'd still vote for him but he is not my primary favorite
I'd still vote for him but he is not my primary favorite
Biden is a unabashed centrist. Beto is running to the left, this is especially clear in the Vanity Fair interview.
Kamala Harris is still far far more worthy of being cared about than any of the near 80 year old fogeys who are more likely to keel over and die in their first term than run for re-election in 2024.
At least he
Watch them spin the fact that he owns a dog as something horrible.
Watch them spin the fact that he owns a dog as something horrible.
forgot the half sarcasm tag on that. but i agree with you. dem party as a whole needs to begin a radical agenda that is full proof the same way the current GOP has stuffed the courts and rushed SCOTUS picks. they've always been the party of by the book ruleplayers and all it has got us are "tactical comments" from Pelosi on impeachment and Schultz up there saying he won't nominate a SCOTUS pick unless he clears 2/3 support. it's embarrassing.
he's also not a socialist dem. hes not progressive by any means — maybe until he voiced support for M4A and similar proposals — but he's a typical moderate. this shouldn't come as a surprise when he hails out of Texas.
To get to the talking point argument: When comparing her responses to someone like Warren or even Sanders, she is a modern moderate who throws a bone to the more left (see her Omar statement) once in awhile.
He did voice support for M4A, Green New Deal, and increasing the tax rate on the rich in the Vanity Fair pre-announcement interview yesterday.
Apparently people who like Kamala have to hate her now? Who knows. Beto is in and I still really like Kamala.
Are we really to the point where if you're not a socialist dem you're not progressive?
Exactly how I feel.
Happy to support Beto, but he's not my first choice.
It wouldn't. There would be revolts at the convention if the party tried to put up a ticket of two straight white men. Its just impossible. The base of the party is majority women, and the margin is only increasing every year.
The ticket will have a woman someone on the ticket, if Beto/Bernie/Biden is the nominee then the VP will be a woman. 100%.
I meant it could work in beating Trump. At this point that is unfortunately more important than what the ticket should be. The Dems need to do whatever it takes to get a small % of Trump voters to turn and vote Dem, and this may be the only/best way. If it was guaranteed that the Dems would win 2020 by just a higher turnout, then I'd agree with you on the better ticket.
Ugh. He would be fine for running another senate campaign in Texas, but he'd be a terrible president. He's a straight white rich guy who can afford to sing kumbaya and back Tea Party Republicans while framing it as putting country over party because he has absolutely nothing to lose from the right's draconian policies.
I wonder if any of the other candidates will hold him accountable for propping up Will Hurd, a candidate who wouldn't even support Beto in the GE or for blaming Democrats for Trump/Republicans locking up babies in cages.
I wonder if any of the other candidates will hold him accountable for propping up Will Hurd, a candidate who wouldn't even support Beto in the GE or for blaming Democrats for Trump/Republicans locking up babies in cages.
The base of the party is women. They can't put up two white dudes. Even if it is more electable.
It is not an option and will not be an option. Especially after 2018. Women are the reason Democrats increasingly win. Men are more and more the minority of the party every year. If a straight white male wins the nomination we can't put another straight white guy on the ticket.
So I think it is kind of a waste to entertain.
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