Yeah, this is a weakness he needs to be wary of. It hurt Obama badly and Dems want a fighter now.
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so, it sure doesn't seem like a great sign that Beto's campaign hasn't reported a Day 1 fundraising total
obviously that's not reason enough to write him off this early, but wasn't the notion that his small-donor fundraising prowess would carry over from his Senate race one of the main rationales for his candidacy?
yeah i noticed that too, things must not be going that well thenso, it sure doesn't seem like a great sign that Beto's campaign hasn't reported a Day 1 fundraising total
obviously that's not reason enough to write him off this early, but wasn't the notion that his small-donor fundraising prowess would carry over from his Senate race one of the main rationales for his candidacy?
so, it sure doesn't seem like a great sign that Beto's campaign hasn't reported a Day 1 fundraising total
obviously that's not reason enough to write him off this early, but wasn't the notion that his small-donor fundraising prowess would carry over from his Senate race one of the main rationales for his candidacy?
who gives a fuck where a US liberal ranks on the spectrum compared to other countries? We don't get to run politicians from other countries here.Quick reminder that "liberalism" in the United States is centrism in every other developed nation.
Bernie & co. are left of center.
Most Dems are slightly right of center, with Pelosi, Hillary, and most establishment Dems being further right.
The only reason our overton window is so fucked is because a) Republicans exist and b) our nation is one built on supporting the status quo.
Oh, and before somebody complains about Pelosi being called a centrist again...
who gives a fuck where a US liberal ranks on the spectrum compared to other countries? We don't get to run politicians from other countries here.
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Of the 40 TX donors who gave <$2,500 to O'Rourke's 2012 campaign and other federal candidates, 26 contributed to other Republicans but just one Democrat—him. Seven gave to other Ds but not Rs. Another seven gave to other candidates from both parties.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/beto-orourkes-past-gop-ties-could-complicate-primary-run-11552621743
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One of O'Rourke's 2012 GOP donors owns an El Paso civil engineering firm that now has a contract to help build the fence along the US-Mexico border near El Paso.
She's a Trump supporter in the 2020 election.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/beto-orourkes-past-gop-ties-could-complicate-primary-run-11552621743
so, it sure doesn't seem like a great sign that Beto's campaign hasn't reported a Day 1 fundraising total
obviously that's not reason enough to write him off this early, but wasn't the notion that his small-donor fundraising prowess would carry over from his Senate race one of the main rationales for his candidacy?
YepCould also be the they don't want to seem crass with the news coming out of New Zealand this morning.
Literally every Congressperson/Governor is going to have donations like that of business people donating to their local reps to try to build a favorable relationship.
Last night Lawrence Odonnel ran a montoge of FOX news "pundits" on beto. They be scurred.
who gives a fuck where a US liberal ranks on the spectrum compared to other countries? We don't get to run politicians from other countries here.
When Beto supporters say "Beto is what people want", I actually interpret that to mean "most Democratic Americans don't actually want stuff done and just want to talk about how they want to do all these great thing" and I find it hard to disagree on this point.
I'm a Bernie stan all of a sudden?
When Beto supporters say "Beto is what people want", I actually interpret that to mean "most Democratic Americans don't actually want stuff done and just want to talk about how they want to do all these great thing" and I find it hard to disagree on this point.
medicare 4 all or single payer health care is one of the bigger issues for me going into the primary. This a big field of candidates and a lot of them support medicare 4 all and single payer so why should I stick around beto then?Nope, confused you with someone else. I still don't see how a couple tiny quotes, most likely taken very out of context, knowing how much Beto likes to talk, makes him a hard pass.
Beto will perform well in the Midwest and potentially help us in battleground states there. I think if it's anyone other than Biden, Pete, or Beto that doesn't happenKamala Harris or Andrew Yang would be my choice for President right now, but I'm not sure they would beat Trump in the general election.
I stand by my opinion that Beto might be the best nominee if we want to actually win in 2020.
I would just like to see people actually engage on the topic of whether or not we should care about where a candidate receives their contributions. Going "blah blah blah purity tests" doesn't help your case
medicare 4 all or single payer health care is one of the bigger issues for me going into the primary. This a big field of candidates and a lot of them support medicare 4 all and single payer so why should I stick around beto then?
medicare for all is just branding. When Bernie says it we know he means single payer. when another dem says it they could mean a public option in conjunction with private insurance or expanding the aca. Beto is choosing to step away from that branding all together.From what I've read, Bernie likes to conflate single payer with Medicare for All. From comments I've seen Beto make, he seems to be gravitating towards Medicare for All (vs. Bernie seems to like the single payer approach). I'm sure this stuff will become more clear as the weeks/months go on.
Medicare 4 All is a catch all term that sounds good on paper but doesn't commit to any single implementation.From what I've read, Bernie likes to conflate single payer with Medicare for All.
medicare for all is just branding. When Bernie says it we know he means single payer. when another dem says it they could mean a public option in conjunction with private insurance or expanding the aca. Beto is choosing to step away from that branding all together.
Medicare 4 All is a catch all term that sounds good on paper but doesn't commit to any single implementation.
Bernie's preferred implementation is single-payer. There's also multi-payer, expanded ACA, etc.
I'm conflating pass interviews and statements of his with recent comments.No. Him moving away from single payer does not mean moving away from M4A. Just yesterday he said he wants guaranteed healthcare for every American. What exactly that means on paper will be borne out as the days go on, I'm sure.
Nickname hes been called since childhood. It's Hispanic, he's not.Woah I just realized now from this thread that Beto is a man. I've heard that name often and it never seemed like a male name to me. What is the nationality of it?
Woah I just realized now from this thread that Beto is a man. I've heard that name often and it never seemed like a male name to me. What is the nationality of it?
The last time I made that blunder was with Taylor Swift lol.
I'm conflating pass interviews and statements of his with recent comments.
Apparently its a nickname the hispanic community he grew up in gave him when he was younger.It's just a nickname for Alberto (which isn't even his name). His real name is Robert Francis O Rourke
That's the thing with Beto. I'm not sure what I'm even going to get with him and you don't seem sure either.https://youtu.be/uAlUS8yw7qs?t=133
Listening to his response, I glean two things from it. One is that he wants to expand ACA and supplement existing insurance. The other is that he wants to guarantee healthcare to everyone, but that is going to take a lot more to get implemented. It comes off to me as a pragmatist response where I know there's a decent number of people who want M4A Thursday, January 21st, 2021. For better or worse, his response comes off as more realistic.
Medicare 4 All is a catch all term that sounds good on paper but doesn't commit to any single implementation.
Bernie's preferred implementation is single-payer. There's also multi-payer, expanded ACA, etc.
I'm not trying to define with M4A is, I'm explaining how it's been diluted enough to be generally anything approaching progressive healthcare reform. The capitalists already won the advertising game here. M4A could be single-payer, or it might not be, politicians use M4A instead of single-payer because it's easier for voters to swallow and they don't need to commit.Medicare 4 All is single payer. Period.
A bunch of capitalists are trying to say you can have Medicare for All with a public option or expanding ACA, but those are NOT AT ALL the same thing.
Don't be fooled by people trying to keep the private insurance status quo with little tweaks here and there and calling it Medicare For All.
That's the thing with Beto. I'm not sure what I'm even going to get with him and you don't seem sure either.
I'm not trying to define with M4A is, I'm explaining how it's been diluted enough to be generally anything approachnog progressive healthcare reform. The capitalists already won the advertising game here. M4A could be single-payer, or it might not be, politicians use M4A instead of single-payer because it's easier for voters to swallow and they don't need to commit.
When a bunch of politicians use "M4A" instead of saying "single-payer", it fools the electorate into projecting their own idea of healthcare reform onto it. I'm assured by Pragmatic and Realistic™ people that this is Good Politics©.
It was pretty obvious from watching him campaign for Senate what he is. He's very much a progressive.
I havent heard beto say any of this himself and that's a problem. The opening salvo for his campaign is him gesturing a bunch of vagueness at me.It was pretty obvious from watching him campaign for Senate what he is. He's very much a progressive. He wants healthcare and living wage for everyone. He wants changes to the justice system both on the streets and in the courts. He wants to tax the top 1% and make more people successful. Women get to decide what happens with their own bodies, period. etc etc
The difference between Beto/Mayor Pete and someone like Bernie is that Bernie is really good at throwing these pie in the sky ideas out there that will never materialize. He and Beto want the same thing, but Beto, especially due to being from Texas, is more grounded in reality. I honestly can't take Bernie seriously anymore. Even Warren is further up my list, because at least it seems like she is about policy and the actual process of writing law.
I really like Mayor Pete as well. I feel that he's a pragmatist like Beto, but he's willing to step a little bit further to the left and he's better at enumerating his reasons why. That said, I don't think he's electable. Maybe in 10-20 years when he's both older and the country has embraced homosexuality a more than it has today. But maybe I'm misreading the country and I'll get to vote for him next November. Who knows.
RIP Medicare 4 All then. Polling seems to suggest that Medicare 4 All is not popular at all when it is described as single player/killing private health insurance. There could be new polling I haven't seen though.