Beyond: Two Souls has sold 2.8 million copies

[dragonbane]

Source: https://www.linkedin.com/in/defondaumiere

• Beyond on PS3 reached roughly 2 million copies sold back in 2015, so the PS4 remaster sold most of those 800k; digital should have a high ratio since the physical PS4 release was delayed. This is against a reported production budget of $27M and another $25M in marketing for a total spend of $52M. Safe to say the game made a decent profit at this point despite getting discounted pretty quickly after release
• Heavy Rain is at 5.3 million copies sold (PS3 + PS4) against a total budget of $46M ($19M in dev + $27M in marketing)
• Detroit reached 1 million copies sold after 2 weeks against a production budget of $35M and an unspecified amount in marketing (likely between $25-30 million). Heavy Rain took 5 weeks for the same milestone and Beyond required 11-12 weeks. I think Detroit should already be profitable

Note: Sony and Quantic Dream operate on a game per game contract. After a game reaches a defined "dead" point all further profits generated from sales are split up between Sony and Quantic. The studio is reportedly profitable every year with an annual revenue of around €10-12M.

 

[Weiss]

EDIT: Because I'm basically drive by posting, I'll instead just say fuck this game and how it glorifies suicide.

 

[DNAbro]

That's pretty decent.

 

[Deleted member 8408]

y tho

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y not

 

[RPGamer92]

y tho

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Now this is what I call drive-by posting.

Also impressive when you take into account Amazon never really officially sold it on their site.
Edit: Fuck thought this was about Detroit for some reason lol.

 

[TailorDKS]

y tho

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Bc nice game bro...

 

[Weiss]

y not

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Because it's a really bad game with a really fucked up message about suicide.

 

[Vic Damone Jr.]

y tho

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Does this hurt you in any way?

 

[MegaSackman]

Also both games were on PS+, does that involve any kind of money for Quantic? Normally it does for third parties.

 

[Ultimadrago]

Is that a lot for it? Game released what feels like ages ago (with some huge sales if I remembered).

 

[Taker34]

Also both games were on PS+, does that involve any kind of money for Quantic? Normally it does for third parties.

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They are a third party, despite working on a Sony IP...

 

[Deleted member 8408]

Because it's a really bad game with a really fucked up message about suicide.

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And that's just your opinion. There are over 7 billion other people on the planet who can make their own decision as to whether they want to play the game or not.

 

[WillySJ3]

Should reach 3 millions in the next 2 years.

 

[Mercenary09]

Congrats to them. While Beyond: Two Souls was probably their weakest game it was still worth playing. Glad to see that it's sold almost 3 million and made money for them. Contrary to what some think 2.8 million is not a bomb. Some people forget that a lot of games from last gen and this gen never even sold a million.

 

[Slaythe]

Because it's a really bad game with a really fucked up message about suicide.

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Nah, it's alright. Enjoyed it.

 

[bear force one]

Because it's a really bad game with a really fucked up message about suicide.

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I loved it.

 

[Era of not Yakuza]

Not the kind of game I wanted after playing heavy rain but the sci-fi aspect kept me interested. Kudos to Quantic Dream and the great David Cage, everytime you post a comment about how bad his writing is a new ramification is added to his next game.

 

[KiLAM]

That's..actually pretty good. I am happy to hear beyond sold decently coz I am one of the 2-3 people on earth who enjoyed playing it. Great to see heavy rain and detroit doing great at sales too. Kudos to them and can't wait for their future games.

 

[MegaSackman]

They are a third party, despite working on a Sony IP...

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I know but I don't know how the IP works, I'm convinced they're treated as a third party for this because it'd be weird for them not to get something out of Plus but I don't know, maybe Sony owns the game.

 

[Clefargle]

But can it go beyond 3 mil?

 

[Normal]

Played it when was free for Plus and I enjoyed my time with it. It's a pretty good "choose your adventure/dialogue" type of game.

 

[Weiss]

And that's just your opinion. There are over 7 billion other people on the planet who can make their own decision as to whether they want to play the game or not.

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I loved it.

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Nah, it's alright. Enjoyed it.

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Spoiler: Endgame spoilers seriously dude

Willem DaFoe kills himself and is immediately happily reunied with his family and Ellen Paige has the option to die and reunite with her family.

What part of that is okay?

 

[MasterVampire]

I liked Beyond

The homeless chapter was really good

And it's so much better playing in chronological order mode.

Also Elen Page shower scenes are a plus

 

[Deleted member 8408]

Spoiler: Endgame spoilers seriously dude

Willem DaFoe kills himself and is immediately happily reunied with his family and Ellen Paige has the option to die and reunite with her family.

What part of that is okay?

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The part where it's a fictional story that deals with mature themes.

The world isn't as simple as "I personally don't like this thing so therefore it shouldn't succeed".

 

[MrConbon210]

Spoiler: Endgame spoilers seriously dude

Willem DaFoe kills himself and is immediately happily reunied with his family and Ellen Paige has the option to die and reunite with her family.

What part of that is okay?

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I don't think you understood the intended message of the game if that's what you got from it...

 

[Weiss]

The part where it's a fictional story that deals with mature themes.

The world isn't as simple as "I personally don't like this thing so therefore it shouldn't succeed".

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Mature themes like

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kill yourself because you'll see your family again.

 

[Jawbreaker]

Nice. I enjoyed the game a lot more than I thought I would after reading a lot of negative things about it. It holds up better than Heavy Rain thanks to the voice acting and motion capture. Manipulating objects and people with Aiden was entertaining.

 

[Deleted member 679]

I actually think Beyond is my favorite Quantic Dream game.

I know it's not nearly as well received by most fans as their other recent titles, but I really wish they'd focus on single protagonists going forward.

 

[kennyamr]

I didn't like it as much as Heavy Rain or Detroit (which was awesome btw).
The story was all over the place, I think. The way they handle it was not great.
Having said that, it's good to know that none of the entries have bombed and that there is a market for these types of games.
I think they are good in their own right.

 

[MrConbon210]

Mature themes like

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kill yourself because you'll see your family again.

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This is a game where ghosts are a thing. William Dafoe was seen as a crazed lunatic at the end of the game and it's called the bad ending for a reason. You wouldn't say Donnie Darko glorifies suicide because the main charecter lets himself die at the end.

 

[bear force one]

Spoiler: Endgame spoilers seriously dude

Willem DaFoe kills himself and is immediately happily reunied with his family and Ellen Paige has the option to die and reunite with her family.

What part of that is okay?

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All of it. There's no rules to storytelling.

And I believe everyone owns their own life and can take it or not as they please.

 

[Normal]

I liked Beyond

The homeless chapter was really good

And it's so much better playing in chronological order mode.

Also Elen Page shower scenes are a plus

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Chronological order makes the ending... lose its impact. And iirc that mode makes you skip two chapters.

 

[Weiss]

I didn't like it as much as Heavy Rain or Detroit (which was awesome btw).
The story was all over the place, I think. The way they handle it was not great.
Having said that, it's good to know that none of the entries have bombed and that there is a market for these types of games.
I think they are good in their own right.

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I know people shit on David Cage's games for their lack of gameplay, but a narrative adventure where you die and the story continues without you is pretty awesome, even if Detroit was the only one I came close to liking, mostly because of Connor's story.

Also people seriously misquote the "game over is a failure of game design" thing. He's talking about his own games there!

All of it. There's no rules to storytelling.

And I believe everyone owns their own life and can take it or not as they please.

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Please do not listen to this person. If you are feeling like taking your own life, please seek help from friends, family, or a trained professional.

 

[Fat4all]

green goblin Funtime adventures

 

[bear force one]

Please do not listen to this person. If you are feeling like taking your own life, please seek help from friends, family, or a trained professional.

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So people do not own there own lives? Wow. What a world you live in.

 

[KiLAM]

I am guessing these do not include the people who got the game due to psplus?

 

[Weiss]

So people do not own there own lives? Wow. What a world you live in.

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People should not be encouraged to take their own lives because "it's their choice." What an absolutely disgusting thing to say.

 

[dragonbane]

Spoiler: Endgame spoilers seriously dude

Willem DaFoe kills himself and is immediately happily reunied with his family and Ellen Paige has the option to die and reunite with her family.

What part of that is okay?

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It's fictional dude. You are not supposed to get real life advice out of it, cause who knows what comes after death. Jodie herself says there is a ton she still wants to do in life, hence it is up to the player to decide whether she should pursue that or if she suffered enough. It has zero to do with portraying suicide in a positive light. In the context of the story you accept that dying just means entering the next phase aka the Infraworld.

Is that a lot for it? Game released what feels like ages ago (with some huge sales if I remembered).

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It's not amazing, but it is okay and should be profitable especially after the remaster.

Also both games were on PS+, does that involve any kind of money for Quantic? Normally it does for third parties.

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We don't have that info, but I wouldn't be surprised if Quantic gets some form of compensation from it.

 

[Deleted member 4034]

That's surprising.

 

[Mechaplum]

Mature themes like

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kill yourself because you'll see your family again.

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Suspension of belief when consuming fiction is a thing. I mean, ghosts and spirits are a huge theme of the game.

 

[bear force one]

People should not be encouraged to take their own lives because "it's their choice." What an absolutely disgusting thing to say.

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No one was encouraged. They were showing one characters fictional life.

It IS their choice. You don't own them.

 

[Deleted member 8408]

Mature themes like

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kill yourself because you'll see your family again.

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It's not the first and won't be the last game that deals with suicide.

It wasn't even the first Quantic Dream game that dealt with suicide.

The game was rated appropriately (for adults) who should be equipped to contextualise and deal with the events that unfold or are presented as options to the player.

Judging by your "y tho" I'm going to assume you played this game when it possibly would have been best that you didn't.

 

[Segafreak]

Source: https://www.linkedin.com/in/defondaumiere

• Beyond on PS3 reached roughly 2 million copies sold back in 2015, so the PS4 remaster sold most of those 800k; digital should have a high ratio since the physical PS4 release was delayed. This is against a reported production budget of $27M and another $25M in marketing for a total spend of $52M. Safe to say the game made a decent profit at this point despite getting discounted pretty quickly after release
• Heavy Rain is at 5.3 million copies sold (PS3 + PS4) against a total budget of $46M ($19M in dev + $27M in marketing)
• Detroit reached 1 million copies sold after 2 weeks against a production budget of $35M and an unspecified amount in marketing (likely between $25-30 million). Heavy Rain took 5 weeks for the same milestone and Beyond required 11-12 weeks. I think Detroit should already be profitable

Note: Sony and Quantic Dream operate on a game per game contract. After a game reaches a defined "dead" point all further profits generated from sales are split up between Sony and Quantic. The studio is reportedly profitable every year with an annual revenue of around €10-12M.

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I tried looking it up but couldn't find a source for this, you got a link?

 

[Jangowuzhere]

I liked Beyond

The homeless chapter was really good

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That's like the only good chapter in the game.

Everry other part of the story is totally nonsensical and just plain stupid.

 

[Weiss]

No one was encouraged. They were showing one characters fictional life.

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We're not talking about the game now, you are literally talking about how people should kill themselves if they feel like it because it's their choice.

And I believe everyone owns their own life and can take it or not as they please.

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I hope to god I am misinterpreting what you're saying here, because I am someone who's struggled massively with suicidal ideation and this is absolutely the last thing I would need to hear.

It's not the first and won't be the last game that deals with suicide.

It wasn't even the first Quantic Dream game that dealt with suicide.

The game was rated appropriately (for adults) who should be equipped to contextualise and deal with the events that unfold or are presented as options to the player.

Judging by your "y tho" I'm going to assume you played this game when it possibly would have been best that you didn't.

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Probably would have been for the best TBH. The game just makes me angry.

But it's not about dealing with suicide, like say the story of someone who lives through the aftermath of a loved one's suicide, it's explicitly a scene where a dude caps himself in the head and it's treated as a good thing.

 

[bear force one]

We're not talking about the game now, you are literally talking about how people should kill themselves if they feel like it because it's their choice.



I hope to god I am misinterpreting what you're saying here, because I am someone who's struggled massively with suicidal ideation and this is absolutely the last thing I would need to hear.

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People have the right to end their own lives. You do not get to choose for them or shame them.

Please Get therapy if you personally cannot deal with this concept but I'm not the only person who believes that we OUR OWN lives.

 

[TimPV3]

EDIT: Because I'm basically drive by posting, I'll instead just say fuck this game and how it glorifies suicide.

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Saying this game glorifies suicide is like saying every shooter glorifies murder. You can't be serious.

 

[DontHateTheBacon]

EDIT: Because I'm basically drive by posting, I'll instead just say fuck this game and how it glorifies suicide.

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What? No. Bad take, bro.

Glad to see this game doing well. While I don't necessarily care too much for how smart David Cage seems to think he is, among other things about him, he wasn't the only person to work on this game. The others on the team made a really fun game.

Well done, well deserved Quantic.

 

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[Shodan14]

That's like the only good chapter in the game.

Everry other part of the story is totally nonsensical and just plain stupid.

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What about the chapter where Ellen Page is a soldier and that goes on literally forever.