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Bill Gates: Undecided about a hypothetical Warren v. Trump matchup
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And even if he did get taxed for everything he's worth, guess who is in charge of making social programs to do good with it. The government. HA! Fat chance.
This entire thread is like when you pretend to throw the ball and the dog runs after nothing
Then why target the wealth tax at all? Why is it unreasonable
This democracy elected Trump and has voted for some horrible policies. So yes, give me Bill Gates singular decision-making, over what America tends to vote for.
Because the government has inefficiencies, let's not focus on fixing them and just let the wealth gap continue to grow?
If you took 100 billion dollars off his net worth Bill Gates would still be in the top 250 richest people in the world. I don't think people are truely grasping how absurdly wealthy he is.
I am not reading that comment the same way. The tell is the 'most professional' candidate line. That is OBVIOUSLY not Trump to Bill Gates's sensibilities and general disposition imo.
But, honestly, he needs to be taxed for most of that money asap.
But, honestly, he needs to be taxed for most of that money asap.
Realistically you could tax 105.75 billion dollars and he and his entire family would be living without a single want or need.
Like he literally talks about how we use to have an upper end 70% taxation rate and says rich people should pay more taxes!
You're already living in that world, friend. How's it working out?
Bill and Melinda gates foundation will not exist.
From his point of view, of course, he will be against it.
All you need to do is pluck a quote from a 38 minute video that nobody is going to watch and it is like shooting fish in a barrel. Checkmate and touchdown.
I'm trying not to cynically compare the Gates Foundation to the Clinton Foundation or the Trump Foundation right now.
Exactly this. As far as I'm aware, he's never endorsed a candidate, but his comment about "the most professional" is top-tier shade thrown at Trump. I don't see how anyone could miss that context.
Shit on Gates for being a billionaire... I'm on board. Tax him more. He'll be fine. But his statement is about as vague as when Obama said something like, "I don't know who the next president will be, but I look forward to shaking her hand." (That 'joke', admittedly, didn't age well)
Who says 100% goes to the people in need?
If it's so obvious why didn't he just answer the question?
Why? I don't know if Bill has actually saved millions of lives, but if he has then I am not going to cancel that unfathomable amount of good over a weaselly political comment.
Pretty much this.
Posters are so predictable.
Blatant manipulation of message through quotes leaving out the most important bits should be bannable.
Mods won't though because that would require them to go against general forum sentiment. So won't ever happen.
Its like none of the FUCKING BILLION CRIMES/hr Trump is doing is registering in this choice but the slightest inkling having to pay more taxes is what gives him pause. He must contemplate this deeply.
For one, as explained earlier in this thread, he doesn't have issue with being taxed more. Heck he even says 20 billion would be acceptable. I assume he means that would be through the rest of his life or over a period of a decade or more, and not per year (unless he's an idiot, which he demonstrably is not). Then he throws out a number like 100 billion which has never been suggested.
Additionally, the Gates foundation is separate from his personal wealth and that would not be part of the wealth tax. So, the good work the Gates foundations does would not be taxed.
I responded to you despite your condescension.
This is a classic example of "you will never be good enough" dude has eradicated so many life threatening diseases saving millions of lives, provided education and sanitation in 3rd word country which will literally change many family trees for generations to come.
but some guy on Era posting but what about the other people. Well, he is only one person. he has inspired many rich people to start donating to his foundation. His work and legacy will live on after he is gone. I don't know when he will solve EVERYONE'S problem. But i bet he wish he could.
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I need to do way more reading and research before I write off Bill. On the surface, dude has done a lot for the fight against Malaria. Although for quick reading, his stance on charter schools wasn't the best, right?
I think it's more about power (and ego) than a fear of scarcity. Bill Gates will never be poor even if Warren's plans would pass into law someday. He knows this; he's just being a twit because he doesn't want to be taxed like the rich used to be, and he's throwing a hissy fit. He's probably so used to not feeling any unexpected pressure in his life at all that he doesn't know how to react, more than actually feeling threatened by a lot more taxation. How dare we target billionaires?! It hurts his pride, which is perverse and sad that he and his billionaire friends feel that way. I could be wrong, but I don't think he's really scared about being poor under Warren's America fully realized, the more I think about it.
I think what's happening is: More and more people in the US who aren't boomers are coming to the realization that the billionaire class is not okay in its current state; people like Bill Gates take notice and start to show their true colors. They are used to the majority of the general population either being indifferent about their status, only mildly upset, otherwise they're embracing/idolizing the idea of their lives or looking the other way because of their status. But the instant someone puts their earnings on blast and wants them to be taxed fairly, they lash out.
Frankly, it just goes to show you how much of a free pass this nation has given the super rich since Reagan. They're so set in their ways. It's abhorrent and it needs to change.
The sobering thing is, even if Warren was elected and we had a Democratic supermajority trifecta, we have a right-leaning Supreme Court that would likely strike down most if not all of her then-enacted laws.
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If I gave 10 dollars to homeless person today I have probably given more as a ratio of my worth to charity then he has ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Gates is and always has been kind of full of shit. He's actually worth more now than he was prior to starting his philanthropy, and a lot of his philanthropy involves things like charter schools and testing technologies on third world populations. He's not the 'benevolent billionaire' people think of him as (because such a thing is literally impossible).
Poor guy. How will he live on only 6 billion with a b dollars. That's like, 6 thousand millions. That's all!
That anyone ever bought into this bunkum about Gates' supposed altruism is indication enough how this country could have ever elected someone like Donald Trump to the presidency. Led like lambs right to the slaughter.
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Dumbass. Just goes to show you in the end these people are just as selfish as the rest. They just want to be seen as heroes more than they actually care about other people
Unless you own 20 dollars between your liquid and unliquid wealth you did not.
He literally said he was joking right after the 100 billion taxes, but everyone is cutting that out of of their tweets and images
People have very warped view of bill gates it looks like. If you read any of his interviews, watch his Ted Talks, or just read up about him, he is not Mr Burns type. He is richest person in the world. But you can see that he is busy with helping the poor through his foundation. His foundation eradicated polio in huge parts of Africa. He is awarding millions of dollars to entrepreneurs to find creative ways to create efficient, less water-dependent toilet systems in the developing world and also finding creative, agile ways of generating electricity. Lot of times, his million dollar ideas are complete waste because someone did not think of x thing. And that's the point. Some of the biggest problems in the world require trial and error, and someone with billions to burn.
I don't want to come off as shilling for the guy. But if I want anyone to be rich, it's Bill Gates and it's mostly for the amount of good he is doing by giving back through innovation.
I don't want to come off as shilling for the guy. But if I want anyone to be rich, it's Bill Gates and it's mostly for the amount of good he is doing by giving back through innovation.
I mean, we all have to deprogram ourselves from the propaganda and bullshit we are fed since childhood to a certain extent.
But yeah, liberals shocked at this need to get their head in the game.
Imagine being so detached from your actual worth that you joke around with your billions.
Don't know why you think that makes him look any better.
They're not comparable. There are organizations that vet charities like Charity Navigator. They don't have The Gates of Trump Foundation, because they're private, but you can freely read about the Clinton Foundation
Clinton Foundation: https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=16680
Later on he goes on about how he intentionally tries to stay out of publicly speaking on politics. He brings up lobbying and how he doesn't engage in that even though he might be tempted to. He later talks about accidentally signal boosting people just by vague association (when asked about Epstein)
I don't really interpret these quotes the same way as the OP. He says he's fine paying more in taxes unless it's at an amount that Warren isn't even proposing and then says professionalisms is most important to him in a candidate. I take the professionalism comment to mean that he would in fact choose Warren but doesn't find her electable (and therefore doesn't want Warren to be the nominee because she wouldn't get elected). He's clearly no Warren fan but I read his quote to mean that he actually would vote for her if it came to it.
No, don't you get it? He should vote for what resetera thinks he should vote for. You must be new here.
Damn, I'm genuinely surprised. Granted I don't follow Gates that much, maybe he's made similar statements in the past. Makes you consider why he spends his money on philanthropic causes. Single-payer health care would alleviate a lot of stress and suffering, but it wouldn't have Gates' name on it.
Cool post. Just one thing, though. It's weird how you didn't mention the part where he then proceeds to wring his hands over how much more some people want the disgustingly wealthy to pay, as if losing even 99% of his hoarded ill-gotten wealth would cause any tangible problems for him.
Fuck Bill Gates.
"But his philanthropy!" He stole the wages of his employees and exploited the value they created to horde an amount of money that is too large to properly comprehend, did not pay anything resembling fair taxes on said wealth, and then gave pennies away while reaching around to get tax deductions for his charitable giving and pretending to be some rich savior.
Fuck Bill Gates.
Now he can't conjure the will to say in concrete terms that no matter what he's voting against the fascist-in-training leader of this country. He's so timid about the idea of someone following through on the idea of taxing the rich more that even a pretty milquetoast center-left progressive like Warren is making him sweat, even when the alternative is Trump.
FUCK. BILL. GATES.
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