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Bill Maher Blames ‘Social Justice Warriors’ For Kavanaugh Confirmation
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Please, stop saying this.
He is NOT one of our own BECAUSE of his support of people like Milo and many, many past actions.
I really can't see how it's possible. You can't believe both parties in this kind of situation, it is illogical.
However, we're not going to change each other's minds on this but I'll say this - as a victim of a false accusation, I will never use the word "believe" in this respect. I fully agree with listening to survivors and taking accusations seriously, they need to be respected, there needs to be a real investigation, but if we're going to automatically believe accusers then I'm just not on board.
I.E. Bill Maher is blaming the evil SJWs for whatever the GOP does.
Stop defending him.
Then report it. That's what the function is for.
I'm betting Maher has some skeletons in his closet that he's deathly afraid of.
I know it's not actually a violation of TOS so I'm not got to bother mods over it, it's just a joke...
You can report it to peititon the mods to snip the attention-seeking wall of quotes. That's what I did.
I mainly said what I said because people do not use the report function enough on this forum, so it's good to remind others it exists!
You assuming "you know me" is a pretty pathetic way to try to diminish what I am saying, as if you have some personal history with me that disqualifies my post, most of which you seem to be cherry-picking and ignoring the context of things said. My point is that in matters like this, Republicans like to fall back on "they are innocent until proven guilty" AS IF IT IS A CRIMINAL COURT. This isn't a criminal court, and if it was Kavanaugh wouldn't be able to be found guilty. Republicans tend not to want to make this distinction, and no ones seems to be forcefully trying to make it clear for them.
Claiming "Kavanaugh is a rapist or is guilty of rape" is simply not a true statement to make, nor is claiming so going to convert any Republicans who think of the claims against him are just a political smear. The truth is, we will likely never be able to prove what he did beyond a reasonable doubt in court, no matter how credible you find the multiple accounts against him are. His response to these claims, his indignant testimony, his demeanor, as well as the highly credible claims are all reasons he should not have been nominated for the highest court in our country for life. The seriousness and the credibility of the multiple claims certainly warrants further investigation and I believe Dr. Christine Ford and the other women who have come forward. But the problem isn't convincing people like me, it's the people who view the court of public opinion the same as a criminal court, and don't understand or want to admit that the claims against him are reasons he shouldn't be given a job, not put in jail (although if it could be proven in a criminal court, he should most certainly belongs there).
This is what I was getting at in my OP so hopefully the next time you decide to attempt to engage in a discussion with someone about a serious issue you can provide some more serious thought than "let me laugh at you and you hate SJWs don't bullshit me" as a response.
tl;dr: My point is that republicans like to use innocent until proven guilty as an excuse to dismiss behavior in a non criminal court setting, it is up to us and the dems to show them that this is not a valid argument.
It makes sense, but not in a way that makes sense. These people always have their personal bugbears and targets and they twist everything to attack whom they actually give a fuck about attacking. It's always about pushing the agenda they actually care about which is why you have to constantly read between the lines and see where the target is being pointed at.
He did that by calling out extremists who deserve the label specifically. His stance on the whole thing is very plain.
The previous decades of BS where women weren't being listened to is ending and he applauds and encourages that. What he doesn't want is for this to be elevated to where the accusation equals truth without any investigation. He doesn't see that as healthy in society and he's right.
As I said in past threads around the time the metoo movement started picking up we are at the point where we have to take accusations as truth but we shouldn't stay there indefinitely.
We need to hold that extreme stance so more victims of sexual crimes (not just women) are willing to speak out more quickly that way a proper inquiry can be done soon after these crimes occur instead of months and unfortunately years later.
Ugh. This fucker again. Seriously I see people keeping saying this fuckhead is a liberal and totally on our side in SPITE of his racist comments, in SPITE of his Islamophobia, in SPITE of his transmisogyny, in SPITE of supporting an alt-right pedophile.
Maybe he's not on the right in his views. But he's not on the left either.
Maybe he's not on the right in his views. But he's not on the left either.
Who are this extremest and do they make up a signficant amount? Yes there are crazy people, but the crazy liberals don't have Fox news and a sitting president validating them. Hell half the time they are a russian bot operation
Nothing in that post mentions anything about him being a "liberal ally" what the fuck are you talking about? You think that post meant he's an ally to liberals in a thread where we're discussing his use of "sjw" which is often used as a pejorative about marginalized groups. You're either dumb or being purposely obtuse if you believe that. Do you think he is an ally to black people or "black ally" as you put it?
And 90% of the time the outrage about them is fake, manufactured. And all of the right wing knobhead pundits are reading from the same script because they've seen it work and they want to do that thing like a bunch of sheep. That's how it works. That's how all of the personalities on youtube and twitter and the news operate. There is nothing about it that's genuine, it's all just an attempt to keep their base engaged and as a result the strawman they promote is seen as legitimate to the uneducated and unexperienced.
The sitting president of the USA tweeted out a vartion of "The Jewish Banking Conspiracy" the other day. But some how the left is wrong....for reasons.
Frankly I was thinking of putting the wall within a quote block but I remembered doing so prevents people from being notified. Most of us really don't read an entire thread nor should we have to. I noticed while quoting 2 other people pointed out how inaccurate the OP but they barely got noticed which is typical since the OP matters moreso than any other post which is why MODs edit them for updates.
I do know of another method that would work but it actually takes literally 7 times more effort than clicking multi-quote. It's too inefficient and since I read every post I wasn't going to spend additional time on being that courteous. None of them could take the effort to verify if Maher really said what the OP misconstrued.
The "investigation" was started due to the accusations by Ford and the FBI was not allowed to interview her. There not being a real investigation is exclusively and entirely the fault of the Republicans and not of Mahers archenemy.
you could just not quote and tag every single poster in this thread you're screaming at and instead just make a post without them. It really isn't as hard to do as you make it out to be, 99.9% of this forum's community manages it every single day.
You were intentionally being sanctimonious and annoying?
Rethinking that report
On Era, it's inertia from his old fans who are in denial. You see the same faces in every thread, you saw the same faces in every thread on GAF, and you can see how they have slowly lost their conviction that Bill Maher isn't a complete piece of shit over time.
I was explaining I atleast gave it some consideration to avoid being annoying but in the end tagging takes like 5 more actions than multi quoting. You saw how many people I had to reference. If the forum made tagging possible by clicking on the avatars I would have done it. For now you have to do a lot of copying and pasting user names and the user function.
Fortunately I'm using a desktop now but imagine how bad that would be for people on their phones.
I don't think Avenatti legitimately changed the minds of any Senators, though he may have shifted public opinion and that can be dangerous. I think I agree with 538 on this-- they made it a referendum on #metoo with some "less credible" accusations and asked people to believe it or not.
This dude seriously needs to shut the fuck up. This dude is liberal where it is convenient or easy. He's an Islamophobe, pro-Israel and has unsurprisingly stupid views on foreign policy. Dude feeds right into the alt-right bullshit. The fact that he uses terms such as "snowflake" or "SJW" tells you a lot about him. These are the same fucking terms you find on youtube comments under dumbass alt-right videos. He goes after republican figures and the democrat voter base. Really fucking odd combination of people to criticize.
The point is you didn't have to do any of that and all it did was drop a huge, annoying wedge in what was up to that point at least a well-flowing back and forth.
Even if you personally like Maher I'm sure you understand why most minorities and women don't in light of his constant fuck-ups.
You're not going to convince us that he's an "ally."
People still like him because of his delivery during his non-guest segments, ie, New Rules. You can credit his writers for that, however. His standup is terrible and he comes off as a smug baffoon when not reading off a prompter.
Maher has always been conservative. And why is the term SJW still a thing? Isn't everybody bored of it by now?
Someone has to make it their duty to post Maher's face right after he tries to insist "but I'm fighting racism" to Ice Cube and Ice Cube shuts him down, in every thread.
Maybe precede it with the image of that time he was defending Sarah Silverman's use of an ethnic slur by repeating the N-word over his black guest when she was trying to speak.
Maybe precede it with the image of that time he was defending Sarah Silverman's use of an ethnic slur by repeating the N-word over his black guest when she was trying to speak.
I'm not a fervent bill Maher hater at all, I don't mind him in small doses. He's totally shit the bed here though, unreal
Well let me introduce you to soy boy. Yes it's as dumb as it sounds.
It's a useful bogeyman for everyone on the right and most center-left/moderates/apathetic.
Reminder: Susan Collins asked for Al Franken to resign. You want to blame someone, blame her hypocritical ass. Not the SJWs.
Sen. Susan Collins Verified account @SenatorCollins
Sexual harassment and assault have no place in any workplace. The reports involving Senator Franken are disturbing. His belated apology was certainly warranted.
Sen. Susan Collins Verified account @SenatorCollins
Sexual harassment and assault have no place in any workplace. The reports involving Senator Franken are disturbing. His belated apology was certainly warranted.
Who? What's their main organization?
These people don't actually exist in significant numbers.
Fair enough though my reason for posting didn't have anything to do with proving Maher was an ally but to only to provide context that was missing from the OP. I only got pulled into that ally discussion because I quoted Enzom.
The term SJW is a pejorative. No one deserves that label. Advocating for social justice is not something to mock.
Dr. Ford came forward and her life has been ruined. Not only that, not enough people actually listened to what she had to say to have an actual investigation. And your point is that we shouldn't believe every accusation. Wonderful.
I remember you now, you got banned for claiming nigger isn't a racial slur any more and only older black people think it is. You seem to like quoting me with the most idiotic nonsense possible.
I agree and I assume Maher would have the same perspective and you bring up a great way to counter their rhetoric.
But we shouldn't only be quick to point out that such extremism isn't organized or lacking in sufficient numbers we should also point out how conservatives have organized enough to suppress votes and round up South American immigrants to put them in concentration camps. It doesn't matter that they aren't Americans their behavior is totally inhumane.
Your memory is faulty for why I got banned. In no way shape or form did I claim it isn't a slur. I did claim that I feel there is a generational gap in how it is used and the mod wrote down they felt I was being disingenuous.
Why would you assume that? He's the one who said SJWs make GOP rhetoric seem credible to people
Bill Maher is a smarmy, lightly informed asshole. Racist in that he thinks having relationships with black women gives him some kind of a pass, and separate, way off to the side from that, his show is stale. Yet in some cloudy and ill-defined fantasy draft I'd still pick him over L Thammy just imagining gifs conjured up by "duty."