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Bill Maher's Roast of Donald Trump
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You sure like to whine about people treating bigots like bigots.
We do need that conversation. We don't need the bigots and racists to be the ones having it just to shit on people they don't like.
Edited my point in, as a gay person I'm really annoyed by Ben Affleck types who shut down the discourse regarding Islam and LGBT.
Ok this is just bullshit. When it's safe? I don't even know what this means. I've been watching him since Politically Incorrect. He's not perfect by any means and can be wrong like anyone else. I don't like it when he gives time to people like Milo or Ann Coulter, but it's a talk show about politics.
I'm taking your remark personally, lol. I don't usually come into threads about Bill Maher because it's always a dog-pile and it's tiresome. It's like trying to talk about Star Wars here.
He literally called trans people weirdos.... and wanted to help rehabilitate Milo after the Reganites took him down... it goes beyond "politics"
Brah
Maher had Milo on and called all his transphobia reasonable and called us weirdos....
Spare me this Bill Maher cares about LGBT people....
This is extremely disingenuous, they target muslims due to their contempt for them, this religion != race is also garbage deflection as muslims communities are subjected to abuse on the basis of their "muslimness", irrespective of the what they believe or how they believe, its racially inspired hatred in the same way anti-semitism is, its underpinned by animosity towards communities (mostly non-whites) that are linked to Islam.
In the case of Maher & Palestine (like all Islamaphobes) their dismissal or reluctance to recognise of legal rights of Palestinians (the largely muslim population) is simply because they dont see them as equals to the superior Israelis (non muslims), and so any war crimes can be dismissed on the basis they're the good guys, an acceptance that allows for all manor of atrocities to be waived because they're always in the right. We see him do it continuously. We see the far-right anti-muslim groups drape and carry Israeli flags during demonstration and rallies, as like Maher, they're animosity towards Muslims manifests to support of denigration, discrimination and at worst genocide of them. He's exclusionary in his tone when it comes to muslims especially, these are easily recognisable identifiers which is deemed racist, it doest exclusively mean to focus on the colour of people, consistently prejudice behaviour and attitudes are equally as notable.
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He called them weirdos? Ok, now he just sounds like my dad (many years ago, he's passed). My dad wasn't trans- or homophobic, he was old and just thought it was weird. I don't know what you mean about rehabilitating Milo. I searched but found nothing but articles about his guest appearance on the show.
This was 6 months after he called him the next Hitchens
Bill Maher is a major public figure he's not your dad who is just old. Calling trans people weirdos while tlaking to fucking Milo is unacceptable.
Not to sound like a dick but maybe you should read up on the people you're defending.
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It got a few smiles out of me. Not that funny. I did take pleasure in knowing that Trump will watch that and it will make him furious. I'm down for anyone with a platform to make fun of the orange fuck face if only because it angers Trump. Cant really stand Maher though. Totally punchable face.
Once again, an asshole white male take low hanging potshots at Trump and suddenly "He's the ally we need"
Your dad's transphobic dude.
Your dad's transphobic dude.
I still like Maher, he has a few problematic opinions to me but I don't see him how many people here do. I also thought the video was hilarious.
Problematic is now officially dead as term if you can reduce Bill Maher's bigotry to just a few problematic opinions
I didn't know anything about Harris, not defending him. I don't need to read up any more on Maher, especially after reading through that highly misleading article someone posted earlier. I can form my own opinion from watching his show myself.
Here's the bottom line for me—he occasionally makes bad offensive jokes and I don't always agree with him. I hate some of his guests. But I'm still going to watch. His show doesn't define me as a person in real life (probably will here though).
Also few?
Dude is Islamophobic. Has a history of racism, homphobia, transphobia and more. Constantly whines about sjws and free speech. Doesn't believe in germ theory and questions how vaccines work. Gives a platform to known sleaze bags like Harris, Coulter, Peterson, Bari Weiss, and whatever shitty so called "reasonable" Republican he can get on his show.
Dude is an ass. I don't get the defense force.
It's true he'll bring controversial people on to be eviscerated by the panel.
Sometimes I feel like he cuts deeper in a good way. He has common goals with many of the people here...
My dad's been dead for years dude. He was old. It wasn't transphobia, he just thought it was weird. Pretty mild for his generation (WWII vet). I mean, fuck I thought it was weird at first and I'm the B in LGBTQ.
It's very basically Maher telling Trump that he will vote for him if Trump does a 180 on the environment.
You may think the enemy of my enemy is my friend here but at this point we know who Trump is, and that's not going to happen unless it's in desperation to get himself another 4 years...and so on.
So just nah
You may think the enemy of my enemy is my friend here but at this point we know who Trump is, and that's not going to happen unless it's in desperation to get himself another 4 years...and so on.
So just nah
Of course who you defend and watch will affect how others see you.
Of course Bill would throw anyone whose not a straight white male under the bus to make his life easier.
It wasn't just a picture of an orangutan. It literally had giant text above it that said "trump sues maher for 5 million for orangutan sex joke".
I dont care if you hate maher but I'm sitting here just not knowing if you can read English.
Here, sure. But that doesn't matter. In real life I've had no conversations about Bill Maher that I can even remember. It's a talk show I like, that's it.
He keep giving him advice on how to improve his image and it was all done with a tone of admiration as if he really wanted to like that white nationalist shit stain if he could just tone it down a bit. The problem with reactionaries like Maher is that they'll take any person who espouses some kind of anti-PC/anti-college kids rhetoric under their wing no matter how terrible their beliefs are.
I say all of this as someone who liked him and watched his show.
Also, that bit isn't very funny. It's a common joke that other comedians have done that he ran into the ground. The show's gone down hill b/c they keep adding too many panelists and the need to shoe horn some comedy bit in the middle of the show which kills the discussion.
He's never been a good stand up but I think he's smart guy and can make some really insightful points. Yet we don't need Bill Maher.
Just because your old man shown no desire to actively harm transgenders doesn't mean he wasn't transphobic.
The reality is that not everyone had that perception of that conversation, Sam also is no stranger to criticising Christianity which also had very similar issues before its secularisation, and still has lingering issues. I follow the ex-Muslim community on youtube/podcasts and it seems like he's a well regarded friend to several people in that community.
I'm of the opinion that it's important we allow criticism of man made concepts like religion, especially when it oppresses people for their biological traits like their sexuality. And so far it seems like anyone who tries to venture into that topic is branded as a bigot. Anyway, I don't want to go back and forth on this all night, so let's agree to disagree and move on.
So irl you watching Bill Maher has no effect on how others see you because they don't know you watch Bill Maher?
Also what does NiceMangoes, one of the most outspoken ex-Muslim critic of Islam think of Sam Harris?
And why could that be?
Oh. Could it be because he was giving airtime and defending right-wing grifters like Douglas Murray and Stefan Molyneux?
Why, yes it is.
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User Banned (2 weeks): excusing transphobia and islamophobia
I don't get the Milo stuff either, it's not something I can defend. I did find the video funny, though. And I agree he isn't my favorite stand up either but he has been one of my favorite talk show hosts for years.
Insensitive absolutely, transphobic or Islamophobic no.
Well let's dig him up and beat his corpse then! You're tiresome dude.
How could it? It's not something that comes up. I have my own opinions, I don't parrot the things he says.
Agreed!
This was damn good.
I still watch his show and really enjoy the panels. He has said some fucked up shit, but Maher also features respectable PoC who don't ever need to be there (RT is not big) yet those guests seem to enjoy it as nobody is there just to simply tow his bullshit ala FOX.
I still watch his show and really enjoy the panels. He has said some fucked up shit, but Maher also features respectable PoC who don't ever need to be there (RT is not big) yet those guests seem to enjoy it as nobody is there just to simply tow his bullshit ala FOX.
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To repeat myself before I leave: We do need the conversation about Islam and the LGBTQ community. What we don't need is bigots and racists to be the ones having it.
Also more people need to follow Eiynah aka Nice Mangos on Twitter. She was also a guest on the podcast Serious Inquiries Only a couple years ago where she talks about her upbringing and her views on Sam Harris and the new-atheism movement. She also has her own podcast where she had The Serfs on:
Also more people need to follow Eiynah aka Nice Mangos on Twitter. She was also a guest on the podcast Serious Inquiries Only a couple years ago where she talks about her upbringing and her views on Sam Harris and the new-atheism movement. She also has her own podcast where she had The Serfs on:
Thanks, this is interesting and I will look into it. If you think there are any other interesting ex-muslim/critics/podcasts etc, feel free to pm me about it.
Hey, funny is funny, right? He's said some problematic things, but really funny stuff from an increasingly outdated/bigoted comedian can be worth highlighting.
But the thought that his fans think this particular segment is worthy enough to hold up and highlight is more funny than the segment itself. Says something. Now THAT'S funny, which is what elicited my only chuckle at the end of the video.
But the thought that his fans think this particular segment is worthy enough to hold up and highlight is more funny than the segment itself. Says something. Now THAT'S funny, which is what elicited my only chuckle at the end of the video.
He's wasting his breath anyway. Can't make appeals to fascists about ecological issues and expect good results.
Fuck Bill Maher
Fuck Bill Maher
I don't think Maher is actually serious about voting for Trump because it's hard to see Trump changing his mind.
I'll be honest, the thought that Trump is dumb enough to listen to a late night comedian instead of professional PR and accidentally save the world is dark meta comedy of the highest level.
It's pretty obvious the entire thing was a joke. He's actively insulting him the whole time.
So if the basis of this thread for Bill Maher being alright is solely because he's ribbing an obvious piece of shit clown fascist like Trump (while he bats for the fascist state of Israel), I still say fuck Bill Maher
Good bit. Bills Bill. Been watching him on and off for decades. I don't need someone to be perfect to watch him.
Same. He's a comedian. You don't have to agree with everything he says. I don't agree with everything, but I enjoy the show.