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Rand a. Thor

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Oct 31, 2017
10,213
Greece
No build up, just stays flat until the final verse where even then it hits no real highs. Shame this is the final Craig era song, but J didn't expect much from Eilish either.
 

Quad Lasers

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Oct 26, 2017
3,542
It's pretty funny to think how kind time has been to You Know My Name.

People were fucking savage to that song back in the day.
 

Ashok

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Jan 24, 2019
510
Not quite as good as You Know My Name or Skyfall but miles ahead of Writing's on the Wall and Another Way to Die which was just dreadful imho. Overall, pretty good!!!
 

APOEERA

Member
Oct 26, 2017
3,061
Absolute shit and sounds like a demo. It sounds worse than "Writing's on the Wall" if that's possible. I want to hear the songs they rejected for this theme.

I hope with the new Bond after this they go "f it" and make every theme sound like a classic Bond theme.
 

DIE BART DIE

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Oct 25, 2017
5,844
Honestly it feels as laboured and uninspired as the film will inevitably be.

Set the films back to the '60s where spies were actually useful; have Russia be the big bads as commentary on current events; give the thing the naturalistic look of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy; give Bond an arsenal of lofi gadgets like prosthetic disguises and fake documentation; depict brutal, well-choreographed violence that the Hayes Code prevented in the actual '60s. Finally, sell me a fucking ticket to that.
 

Dommo

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,686
Australia
I know I shouldn't be judging films based on the theme songs, but I continue to be surprised at how much this film is happy to buddy up with Spectre stylistically. In the same way CR did to DAD, and to a lesser extent, what Skyfall did to QOS, I really thought this film was going to distance itself in every way possible from its immediate predecessor given the lukewarm reception.

QOS was stiffly modern, slick and rough. Skyfall was traditional and operatic. QOS was short. Skyfall was long. QOS was building toward a shady megavillainous organisation. Skyfall jettisoned that for a new singular villain. QOS was brown, dirty shaky-cam. Skyfall was Deakins' spectacular colours + beautifully striking compositions. And most relevant to this thread, QOS was grimy, tense rock and roll White + Keys. Skyfall was sweeping ballad.

Along with a slew of other storytelling decisions that bridge Spectre to NTDD like bringing back Blofeld and Swan, it's just odd that out of all Bond themes, Eilish's song bares the most resemblance to Spectre's. I really thought NTDD would have all but forgotten about the clusterfuck of Spectre, and built an entirely independent final send off with more in common with CR than anything else and that includes the song. If they were chasing ballad, I thought it'd recall Skyfall. I honestly would have preferred something more experimental like Madonna's DAD than this, which just sounds too laborious and generic to excite.
 
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Vilam

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,053
Trash. Bond songs aren't meandering and unsure of themselves. They're bold and brash, full of confidence. This is barely a song, it's just whispering over background lounge music. Sampling two classic bond riffs within the main song really stands out as cheap and unoriginal.

The direction of this franchise really went off a cliff during Craig's tenure. Where's the music? What in the hell is supposed to be memorable about this, at all?
 

PaulloDEC

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Oct 25, 2017
7,406
Australia
Pretty much what I was expecting. Melody seems fine, typically Bond-esque instrumentation, decent lyrics. Nothing remarkable overall, and the whole thing basically hinges on how much you like Eilish's moody murmur-singing.
 

Dommo

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Oct 25, 2017
1,686
Australia
Trash. Bond songs aren't meandering and unsure of themselves. They're bold and brash, full of confidence. This is barely a song, it's just whispering over background lounge music. Sampling two classic bond riffs within the main song really stands out as cheap and unoriginal.

The direction of this franchise really went off a cliff during Craig's tenure. Where's the music? What in the hell is supposed to be memorable about this, at all?

I assure you this franchise goes off a cliff during everyone's tenure at some point. I'd say Craig has remained mostly on the road by comparison.

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Aloysius

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Nov 5, 2017
885
Minneapolis, MN
Better than Sam Smiths, but I feel like both songs since Skyfall have been poor imitations. Not bad, but a little bland.

Both songs needed more prominent drumming imo
 

Vilam

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Oct 27, 2017
5,053
Honestly it feels as laboured and uninspired as the film will inevitably be.

Set the films back to the '60s where spies were actually useful; have Russia be the big bads as commentary on current events; give the thing the naturalistic look of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy; give Bond an arsenal of lofi gadgets like prosthetic disguises and fake documentation; depict brutal, well-choreographed violence that the Hayes Code prevented in the actual '60s. Finally, sell me a fucking ticket to that.

I'll take this please. They looked like they were on track to refresh the franchise properly with Casino Royale, but they've really shit the bed ever sense and shown they have no idea how to do an interesting modern Bond.
 

Titanpaul

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Jan 2, 2019
5,008
I'll take this please. They looked like they were on track to refresh the franchise properly with Casino Royale, but they've really shit the bed ever sense and shown they have no idea how to do an interesting modern Bond.

Ive lost hope. Even Skyfall was just OK. Imma just rewatch Casino.
 

Cascadero

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Nov 8, 2017
1,525
Yeah this theme song turned out to be quite boring.
Still have high hopes for the movie though, the trailer looked great.
 

DIE BART DIE

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Oct 25, 2017
5,844
I'll take this please. They looked like they were on track to refresh the franchise properly with Casino Royale, but they've really shit the bed ever sense and shown they have no idea how to do an interesting modern Bond.

How many more of these films can revolve around this boring metacommentary on the obselescence of spies in the modern era? Added to the fact that the series is utterly gutless, establishment and formulaic. Broccoli et al wouldn't touch religious fundamentalist terrorism with a ten foot barge pool. It's easy to forget how damn bold it was to make From Russia With Love when they did.

Seriously, make these things really well-crafted period thrillers at this point.
 

talkingood

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Oct 27, 2017
1,118
booooring

pretty voice but nothing to the melody. I hate to say it because I think she seems like a nice kid though. :(
 

Zoso

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Oct 27, 2017
249
I like it a lot more than I expected to. Solid Bond song.

Adele's Skyfall remains my favorite of the Daniel Craig era.
 

Lionheart

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Oct 26, 2017
2,839
Damn that blows chunks, better than writing on the wall but both Casino Royale and even Quantum are much better. Knew if
 

DIE BART DIE

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Oct 25, 2017
5,844
Definitive Craig-era song rankings.

You Know My Name
Skyfall
Another Way To Die
No Time To Die
Writing's on the Wall
 
Oct 25, 2017
19,165
I am just not a fan of her voice. Would have preferred someone like FKA twigs singing a Bond theme.

I'm still annoyed Bjork never got a shot.
Damn I never thought about how dope a Bjork Bond theme could be
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Get's stronger around the mid point but I'm not feeling it. I probably wouldn't listen to this over Writing's on the wall, Skyfall and You know my name are still tied for first.
 

DumbNameD

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Oct 27, 2017
102
Is that riff in the end section from another Bond thing? Otherwise, to me, that bit sounds like something from Mr Writer by the Stereophonics.
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Stereophonics - Mr. Writer

New album Graffiti On The Train. Out Now. Buy it here: http://po.st/SeK58pMusic video by Stereophonics performing Mr. Writer. (C) 2001 V2 Music Limited#Stere...
 

dragonbane

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Oct 26, 2017
4,583
Germany
It's better than I expected and much better than the last song. But doesn't come close to touching Skyfall. Needs more bombast and Adele brought that