Billy Mitchell Cracks a Confirmed 1,000,000 on DK (Update, twice)

Oct 25, 2017
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Billy Mitchell has been the subject of a lot of talk, speculation and indeed scandal this year. He hasn’t been this popular since the King of Kong film was launched. At this point, I should note that if you haven’t watched it, you really should. Earlier this year though, he hit a major scandal when Twin Galaxies (under new ownership) starting opening high score record submissions to be contested.

Following a massive investigation from both TG and the gaming community, all of Billy Mitchells high scores and records were removed as invalid (or more accurately removed under a cloud of disingenuine representation) and he was permanently banned from high score submissions in the future.
After the news broke, Billy Mitchell has been quite a busy man. He has been touring the US on his ‘Road To Redemption’ door attempting to clear his name or salvage his reputation. These events have been said to be a mixed bag affair. While he does hold panels, he is apparently highly resistant to taking questions from the public. He has been accused of using the tour more to grandstand his own views and opinions while avoiding being challenged openly.
The throwing out of his score submissions has placed a dark cloud over Billy Mitchell. Many believe that his scores may have been entirely faked and that he actually isn’t very good at games. Donkey Kong specifically. In a recent Twitch stream though, in a live and confirmed recording, he cracked exactly 1 million points on the game. A major milestone for the title.
Kill screen me and reboot the thread on MAME if old

The fact he was able to do this live after only a few weeks of trying just makes his actual cheating even more tragic

Edit: Link to Twitch stream

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Oct 25, 2017
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Quoting myself from the other thread,

So the new twitch stream is interesting...

We don't see the cab power on, and we don't see the proper screw draw at this framerate so it very well still could be on modified/unofficial hardware :|
 

Kokonoe

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You know how you redeem yourself? Admit you made a bad choice and aim to improve.

He is not admitting so it doesn't really matter a whole lot that he achieved this because the actual issue is still there.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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Quoting myself from the other thread,

So the new twitch stream is interesting...

We don't see the cab power on, and we don't see the proper screw draw at this framerate so it very well still could be on modified/unofficial hardware :|
The plot thickens?
 
Jan 27, 2018
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Impressive if true since hes like in his 50's correct? anyway i never understood why he cheated, he got an 800k in the 80's & held that for 2 decades, should have been happy with that, no one was ever gonna take that from him.
 
Oct 30, 2017
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Why do people like to vilify someone so much. He did it ... it’s done.. he is really great at donkey Kong.
 
Oct 30, 2017
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Impressive if true since hes like in his 50's correct? anyway i never understood why he cheated, he got an 800k in the 80's & held that for 2 decades, should have been happy with that, no one was ever gonna take that from him.
It could be more of a Barry Bonds thing.

Naturally talented, but felt the need to do more.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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Why do people like to vilify someone so much. He did it ... it’s done.. he is really great at donkey Kong.
Well he cheated and stole the "first to a million" record from someone who actually was the first to get that record

I don't think anyone doubts he is an incredible player of arcade games, but I mean, Lance Armstrong was a great cyclist, but all this is undone when you cheat
 
Oct 28, 2017
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The throwing out of his score submissions has placed a dark cloud over Billy Mitchell. Many believe that his scores may have been entirely faked and that he actually isn’t very good at games.
This is nonsense. One thing is not like the other. Most people believe that his scores are faked but still know he does have skills - just not the outstanding, WR skill he claimed to have with his magnum opus. Stuff like this is disingenuous to try and paint anyone challenging Mitchell's claims as people who say "lol mitchell is a loser i bet he cant even beat DK first stage without cheating is he even a GAMER tm"
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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This is nonsense. One thing is not like the other. Most people believe that his scores are faked but still know he does have skills - just not the outstanding, WR skill he claimed to have with his magnum opus. Stuff like this is disingenuous to try and paint anyone challenging Mitchell's claims as people who say "lol mitchell is a loser i bet he cant even beat DK first stage without cheating is he even a GAMER tm"
I agree with you, but you have made it look like what you're quoting was said by me, when it's actually said by the writer of the article, so just wanted to clear that up :P
 
Oct 28, 2017
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I agree with you, but you have made it look like what you're quoting was said by me, when it's actually said by the writer of the article, so just wanted to clear that up :P
haha true, its just that when i quote your post the news you posted dont show up, so i edited your post instead. sorry about that.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm more upset at that site's shitty editor than Mitchell cheating in the first place. "Road To Redemption door"
If anyone can find a better source I will update the OP, I struggled to find anywhere more reputable reporting on this

I only know it happened because someone bumped an older thread on the subject
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Well yeah, he's good. We knew that. If anyone thought because he cheated his skills didnt exist, they're nuts.

The reason his cheating was believable to many was because of his skill.
 

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Why do people like to vilify someone so much. He did it ... it’s done.. he is really great at donkey Kong.
Just because he did it now doesn't change the fact he cheated back then. This doesn't solve any issue at all, we already knew he had the skill to be a good player, but he still cheated that is known. He fails to admit it despite all the evidence.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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whats the reasoning behind stopping at 999000?

EDIT: Nevermind I see the bonus points now
To add to this, he said he would get 1m and then stop, even if he could get a lot more points

I think realistically he knows he won't challenge the real record, so might as well just get the million twice like he said he would and that can be his point made

Though he still cheated, even if he wants to continue to deny it, so this doesn't tell us much, we already knew he was good at the game
 
Jan 27, 2018
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To add to this, he said he would get 1m and then stop, even if he could get a lot more points

I think realistically he knows he won't challenge the real record, so might as well just get the million twice like he said he would and that can be his point made

Though he still cheated, even if he wants to continue to deny it, so this doesn't tell us much, we already knew he was good at the game
If he can get 1 million at his age, i dread to think how high he could have got in his early 20's if he had a DK cabinet at his house.
 

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Cool that he can do it (I sure as hell can't), but it doesn't erase the fact that he cheated and reaped the rewards from that cheating for years.

Either way, I wish him the best of luck on that "redemption" tour.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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This isn't the point though. It's about about if he can do it or not, it's the point of he didn't do it FIRST. He lied and refused to show evidence of the first time he did it for the world record. Sure he can do it now but it's about then, it's about why this is all a thing.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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It's funny reading all the zero tolerance stances on this person who had a fairly minor transgression years ago on what is an entirely trivial thing to begin with.

Good on him!
 

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Quoting myself from the other thread,

So the new twitch stream is interesting...

We don't see the cab power on, and we don't see the proper screw draw at this framerate so it very well still could be on modified/unofficial hardware :|
And this is exactly why it's such a bad idea to cry wolf in order to embellish actual accomplishments. Because the second your credibility is gone, it's GONE. Everything this guy does from now on is going to be marred by the taint of his cheating (and his shitty, defensive attitude). Honestly though? He deserves it.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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It's funny reading all the zero tolerance stances on this person who had a fairly minor transgression years ago on what is an entirely trivial thing to begin with.

Good on him!
Faking scores to claim a much coveted record he didn't earn, and stripping the rightful owner of that record for over a decade, is a minor transgression?
 
Oct 26, 2017
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The internet loves to hate.

Good on Billy!
Lol, he was caught cheating, lying, and being super shady about owning up to either. If anything this video makes the whole thing even more tragic, as he's good at the game but still felt the need to cheat to be 'number one'.
 

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Not sure what Billy thinks this proves. Breaking 1 million in 2018 doesn't mean the same thing it did a decade ago. As time goes on, strats become optimized, and once-groundbreaking achievements become banal. Nobody ever claimed that Billy Mitchell is incapable of reaching this milestone, just that he wasn't actually the first to do it.
 

Vire

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Oct 27, 2017
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Oh hey that's Glitch Bar in Fort Lauderdale! I work like five minutes away from Billy Mitchell lol
 
Oct 26, 2017
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This is nonsense. One thing is not like the other. Most people believe that his scores are faked but still know he does have skills - just not the outstanding, WR skill he claimed to have with his magnum opus. Stuff like this is disingenuous to try and paint anyone challenging Mitchell's claims as people who say "lol mitchell is a loser i bet he cant even beat DK first stage without cheating is he even a GAMER tm"
Bingo.
 

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It's funny reading all the zero tolerance stances on this person who had a fairly minor transgression years ago on what is an entirely trivial thing to begin with.

Good on him!
If he didn't completely fuck over someone else whilst doing so (Steve Wiebe) and then dined out on that glory, I'm sure more people would have sympathy for him.
 
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He's a terrible cheat but it's hard to deny he's a really entertaining guy


I'd love to see a King of Kong 2: Enter the MAMEframe