- Oct 25, 2017
The fuck kind of rabbit hole did I just fall into
There was some bullshit in one of the MAME videos showing them supposedly swapping out a board on a real cabinet. He knew.
Oh no, that wasn’t a dig at your OP.
I mean, he was able to play them and submit them with only a video, no? Outside of the doc, doesnt seem like they've been anal about anything until recently due to reputation.
TG made an exception especially for Billy because they trusted him and assumed he would never ever cheat. Normally for arcade game world records they insist it be done on a machine in front of an audience and a judge.
That was because he was in with the guys at Twin Galaxies and they took him at face value without verifying his equipment. A big part of the scandal when it was shown he cheated was that Twin Galaxies didn't do their due diligence and it devalued the rest of the scores that were allegedly legit. So they purged his and Todd Rogers scores after it was proven that they lied and/or cheated in an attempt to regain credibility.
Yes. I'm aware of how it happened. I'm replying to a poster saying that they check everything with a fine tooth comb before submitting in response to me saying that it's entirely possible he didnt know the machines were running mame. We're very close to talking in circles here.
haha suing innocent people so funny so WACKY what a cool character!!! great acting
It's the exception that proves the rule, but you refuse to let it go. He was the one person in the world they assumed would never ever try to submit a world record using a MAME machine, either through ignorance or deceit.Yes. I'm aware of how it happened. I'm replying to a poster saying that they check everything with a fine tooth comb before submitting in response to me saying that it's entirely possible he didnt know the machines were running mame. We're very close to talking in circles here.
Huh? Listen all I said was that he may have not known and have responded to people saying he HAS to know and why that must be, or other people thinking I don't know the situation I'm talking about. I'm not NOT letting anything go, just clarifying responses when people reply to me... like... a conversation?
Billy himself in his massive evidence packet rejects this possibility. Neither Twin Galaxies, Billy Mitchell, or the venue are making an argument that MAME was accidentally used.Unfortunately it's very possible that he played on a machine not knowing it was mame. It's not out of the realm of very real possibility.
And let's be honest, twin galaxies is a shit show anyway, they've used Billy Mitchell as a sort of example to try to clean up their image.
And this would mean, if it is indeed a MAME machine or not, he is under the express impression that it isn't?
His evidence document is a lot of repeating the same info but the basic argument is he argues he completed the scores on authentic arcade hardware and the tape was tampered with after the fact.
Wouldn't all of this be pointless unless Billy has the original recorded footage without the MAME level transitions? Even if the source of the digital copies was in question he'd still have to prove that they were doctored.I have made my way through the evidence document. Here is what I think is the most important throughline worth knowing about..
In TG's livestream reviewing Billy Mitchell's 1,047 score the integrity of the tape source is addressed here. This is Mitchell's primary complaint because the source of the tape, Dwayne Richard, has a publicly well known extreme dislike for Mitchell.
In short, TG used footage from King of Kong as well as an independent copy provided by Greg Erway.
"At the time that Steve Wiebe was submitting his performances and they were being called under question, Billy's performances were used as the model of professional play to compare Steve Wiebe's tapes to as they looked for things. So what happened is Walter Day had copies of Billy's performances sent to all referees that he had asked to take a look at. One of those people was Dwayne Richard. Another one was Greg Erway who actually got digital files of both the 1047 and the 1050 performances. So we got a copy from Greg Erway"
Billy takes issue with this because Walter Day states he never dealt with digital copies of any player's performance so he couldn't be the source. This leads Billy to the wild conclusion that the only possible source of this independent copy is Dwayne Richard. The hateful man out to ruin him. It is a fucking leap and a half and a weak-ass argument. He goes on and on about various things and endless witness documents about how wonderful he is but this is what he presents as his primary evidence of tape tampering.
His arguments around the 1,047 tape are really strange. He goes on about how it was never a real submission and was done for "entertainment purposes only" as part of making King of Kong a "docu-drama." As part of that he ended up sending the master tape because the copy had the rollover problem when 1 mil was hit as we saw in the film.