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Blizzard China Defends Decision To Ban Blitzchung, Says They Will Always Defend “the pride of our country”
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your country is not your government.
the latter is a totalitarian regime, you know it. at least don't try to gaslight us.
Things changed a lot since June.
And i know what am i saying, i'm living in Hong Kong since born and still living there right now.
Dude it's OK to dislike or even hate a government - even your own government - while still loving the people and the land.
I think you need to try and put your nationalism aside, try to read up on what the Chinese government has done from good, proven unbiased sources and form your own opinion without bias.
My country media denied it and the media I saw in Europe report it.
I don't know how to comment on it. Really.
I never been to Xin Jiang. I have no contact with people living there.
if it is the truth, then it is a big mistake and would not be allowed.
In Taiwan I can research and publish anything I want, and then go and disseminate it to whomever I choose, even if it calls the KMT a bunch of idiot fascists, calls for protests directly in front of the legislative Yuan, or tells airhead fuerdai to fuck off back to whatever Tier 1 city their parents got rich in.
No one wants to dislike China, but I'm not sure the CCP particularly cares if anyone likes them, either. You want to be thought of as "great," then start acting great, and demand it from your leadership. In any case, I rather like not being in that country at the present.
Man, listen to yourself; you sound like a great example of systematic brainwashing at work. You're not doing yourself any favours by pandering to an almost universally and rightfully reviled country. And this is coming from another Chinese person. So not ALL of us are pro China. In fact, I'm willing to bet it's most vocal opponents and critics are Chinese.
your country and people probably are, but you are controlled by an outrageously totalitarian with an obscene record of human rights violations. Nobody on this forum dislikes china. Your government can get fucked.
Yup, I admit that I am a bit of nationalism and thank you not directly attacking me like many others.
Surely people don't have issues with you people or your culture, just with your government. I'm sure China is full of wonderful people.
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Thank you for responding. Can you expand on what it means to not be allowed? Do you mean it cannot be discussed?
additionally, do you think it is right for the government to censor topics and attempt to cut short the one country two systems that Hong Kong operates under?
but you seem to know all about 1989 and the chinese government's attempt to cover that up. so what's more likely? everywhere else in the world creating a fictional situation where millions of people are held in concentration camps or the chinese government trying to cover up something again?
Tell me, have you ever criticized the United States? If so is it because you hated the United States and all it's people?
Guys stop it. You are arguing with clear Chinese propagandists who are either trolling you, paid officials, or native Chinese who have no choice but to support their country at the risk of (pick your poison). You will get no meaningful dialogue from continuing probing with what you think are insightful questions. Just ignore them and they will go away.
No you are defending your disgrace of a government.
Away and continue to fucking ham shank over Pooh Bear and stop posting, unless you have some valuable to add like actually answering questions people are asking you.
Never hate US although many negative news in China media.
Quite like US people and been there few times because of work.
Your president, not sure about it...
Government is totally different from citizens. Almost all the Americans, Russian's and Iranians I've met are some of the nicest people I've been around. We're not angry at you personally Dudu or your country. It's the government and the atrocities they're responsible for that we have an issue with.
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I disagree. Even if they are nationalistic, I would like to know more and understand where they are coming from when they say what they say. Better to be informed than to not to be. Thank you for your concern though.
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I read that in China, in a car accident, they would rather kill the victim because the punishment they get if victim is alive is costlier.
Yep truly a great country to be proud of.
It sure has been a good couple of years for video game studios, publishers, and e-sports tournaments bending to the will of Chinese nationalism.
Lot of interesting stuff happened with DOTA2 semi-recently as well, Valve handled that situation MUCH worse than Blizzard is handling this one.
In Blizzard's case, at least they had a pre-written policy to hide behind.
Lot of interesting stuff happened with DOTA2 semi-recently as well, Valve handled that situation MUCH worse than Blizzard is handling this one.
In Blizzard's case, at least they had a pre-written policy to hide behind.
People can get reward by trying to kill protestors in Hong Kong now anyway.
Ah, it would be amazing to see Blizzard banned for this. If not because of Trump by some other authority.
You are learning nothing of truth though! You would gain more insight into Chinese culture by having a one-sided discussion with a toilet at Panda Express than you would interacting with these folks who are clearly not demonstrating any good faith in their discussion. Whether it's clear malicious intent on their part or a symptom of brainwashing, you are not getting what you think you are out of this. Listen, whatever floats your boat dude. It's YOUR thread, as you have steadfastly made very clear, but you are wasting your time. You're welcome.
I mean harvest organ should be never allowed.
For Hong Kong, the issue of one country - two system policy is
Our government says it must be firstly one country and then 2 systems.
But part of Hong Kong people would say it must be 2 systems firstly and then one country.
The gap between 2 parties is getting bigger and bigger.
One piece of this story that I'd like clarified: did the ban come from Blizzard's offices in China? Or was it issued from an office in the States or Europe?
Because those are kind of two different things. I don't think that Blitzchung should have been banned, but I'm sitting in a comfy chair in a country with laws protecting free speech. I'm not sure how much moral outrage I can muster about somebody in China making a hard decision between banning a player and facing arrest themselves. (The "right" decision is to risk arrest, of course, but I'm not sure that I'd be brave enough to make the right decision, were I to be the one in that situation.)
From a global perspective, the higher ups at Blizzard in the states have to consider the safety of their employees in China when deciding whether or not to uphold a ban that they instituted. I'm not sure if it counts as moral courage to order somebody to do something that will get them arrested, when you yourself aren't taking a similar risk.
Of course, there's a lot of money at stake here, and there are cynical reasons that Blizzard would have issued and upheld the ban. But I'm not sure that the conversation here contains a lot of respect for the actual people involved in Blizzard's China offices.
And all that is leaving aside the tricky issue of Hong Kong being semi-independent as a legacy of British colonialism; China isn't entirely in the wrong here in its base claims ... though the protesters in Hong Kong aren't exactly wrong to want to preserve the Independence that they have. Oof.
Because those are kind of two different things. I don't think that Blitzchung should have been banned, but I'm sitting in a comfy chair in a country with laws protecting free speech. I'm not sure how much moral outrage I can muster about somebody in China making a hard decision between banning a player and facing arrest themselves. (The "right" decision is to risk arrest, of course, but I'm not sure that I'd be brave enough to make the right decision, were I to be the one in that situation.)
From a global perspective, the higher ups at Blizzard in the states have to consider the safety of their employees in China when deciding whether or not to uphold a ban that they instituted. I'm not sure if it counts as moral courage to order somebody to do something that will get them arrested, when you yourself aren't taking a similar risk.
Of course, there's a lot of money at stake here, and there are cynical reasons that Blizzard would have issued and upheld the ban. But I'm not sure that the conversation here contains a lot of respect for the actual people involved in Blizzard's China offices.
And all that is leaving aside the tricky issue of Hong Kong being semi-independent as a legacy of British colonialism; China isn't entirely in the wrong here in its base claims ... though the protesters in Hong Kong aren't exactly wrong to want to preserve the Independence that they have. Oof.
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At what point is it appropriate to compare the Chinese government to the Nazis? When they are spreading their vile Ultranationalist propaganda? When they are coaxing foreign students into fighting anyone who criticises the Chinese government? When they begin expressing support of other nationalist/fascist governments? Or when they abduct and slaughter Muslims and harvest their fucking organs?
Xi Jinping is a Winnie the Pooh fascist running a Nazi government and I feel for any person, Chinese or otherwise, caught up in all this monstrous evil
Xi Jinping is a Winnie the Pooh fascist running a Nazi government and I feel for any person, Chinese or otherwise, caught up in all this monstrous evil
Amazing edit and needs to be shared
I'm a Chinese American; I take the Mid-Autumn Festival and the Lunar New Year more fucking seriously than Thanksgiving and New Year's Day.
And yet I'll be more than happy to call Xitler Winney the Pooh and call out the CCP for committing cultural genocide (and probable actual genocide) on its minorities.
Stop equating the CCP with China: it's fucking disrespectful to our culture.
User Banned (1 Week): Dismissing concerns of human rights abuses over multiple posts.
Dear Hobbes,
Thank you for allowing me to put my opinions in your thread, even it is not a welcomed one.
Not sure if you have more questions.
Perhaps it is time for me to quit because so many attacks towards me.
If you want to know more about my country, you can directly send me a message. I think this forum has this function.
And it is 19:04 in where I live and I need to have my dinner.
And I hope my posts did not destroy your thread.
Once again, thank you very much!
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Thank you for coming back into the thread to answer some of my questions, despite the fact that I think the way you expressed your beliefs to be extremely harmful and potentially violent towards the people of Hong Kong. If I have further questions, I will ask you via DM.
Obligatory Fuck Blizzard, Free Hong Kong.
I wish everyone would boycott them, I'm not getting my hopes though because everyone is addicted to WoW and overwatch, 95% of people playing those games don't care. I wish they would care though
I would love to see wow subs drop below 1 million
I would love to see wow subs drop below 1 million
That's the thing -- it's unclear where that is coming from. It's very corporate, and doesn't have anybody taking point on responsibility, which means that we have no idea who reviewed the ban, what sort of internal discussions are taking place, etc.
I'm not sure why you're bothering with him. He's been spreading that same nonsense here on the forum for years. Here are some from 2017 where he blatantly says that western media are lying about China :
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Just because I disagree entirely with pretty much everything he has said, I will always seek to understand why people think the way that they do rather than just blatantly ignoring it. It's not going to convince me China's government isn't oppressive and doesn't kill people that speak out against it, but it will help me understand why people champion the government and that in turn allows me to be better informed and better argue my points.
But seriously. Fuck China and fuck blizzard and free Hong Kong.
it got posted to blizzard's official site. the guy heading the whole hearthstone grandmasters is sam braithwaite who works out of irvine. there's zero chance this whole thing was done by blizzard's china office and flew under the radar of anyone in the main office. at the end of the day it falls on blizzard.