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The notion that someone can't defend Hong Kong over what's happening does indeed feel morally reprehensible but I can't entirely disagree with what Blizzard did either. Would we be defending someone's rights to speak out as vehemently if a similar figure came out and spouted that trans rights are nonsense?

Naturally I agree there's a difference between right and wrong when standing up for something but if you're hired/part of something that doesn't want to be the judge of that publicly I can't entirely fault them for taking action if you do that anyway.

Of course , I'll easily agree that a company (like Blizzard) could have taken it upon themselves to stand up for it themselves, which they haven't as far as I know.

The example you bring up makes little sense because speaking against trans rights would be speaking against the freedom of certain individuals, whereas speaking up for Hong Kong is the literal opposite. It would make more sense if you brought up, for example, somebody who stans for incels or something. Then we can have a discussion about that.
 

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I was already pondering about uninstalling battle.net and forgetting about it. Now I actually have a valid reason to do so. Thanks Blizzard
Actually no, fuck you Blizzard
 

Nessus

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Politics has no place in sports
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Shy

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The notion that someone can't defend Hong Kong over what's happening does indeed feel morally reprehensible but I can't entirely disagree with what Blizzard did either. Would we be defending someone's rights to speak out as vehemently if a similar figure came out and spouted that trans rights are nonsense?

Naturally I agree there's a difference between right and wrong when standing up for something but if you're hired/part of something that doesn't want to be the judge of that publicly (and has that as terms of taking part) I can't entirely fault them for taking action if you do that anyway.

Of course , I'll easily agree that a company (like Blizzard) could have taken it upon themselves to stand up for it themselves, which they haven't as far as I know.
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Xiaomi

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The notion that someone can't defend Hong Kong over what's happening does indeed feel morally reprehensible but I can't entirely disagree with what Blizzard did either. Would we be defending someone's rights to speak out as vehemently if a similar figure came out and spouted that trans rights are nonsense?

If trans people were in charge of a state they claimed was the true Trans homeland and actively oppressing several neighboring territories of trans people who did not want to be under their control while destroying the livelihoods of any who questioned them, while "trans rights" became a dogwhistle for imperialism, yeah probably.
 

signal

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You guys need to stop letting singular shitty replies dominate entire threads. At least once they've already been mocked like 50 times.
 

mrfusticle

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Era really likes to go apeshit over news like this. I, for one, find this totally justified. Politics has no place in sports, regardless of views expressed. He chose the wrong time and place to push his agenda and in all likelihood he was perfectly aware of what he was risking.

1938 Berlin Olympics says waaa?
 

Mekanos

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The notion that someone can't defend Hong Kong over what's happening does indeed feel morally reprehensible but I can't entirely disagree with what Blizzard did either. Would we be defending someone's rights to speak out as vehemently if a similar figure came out and spouted that trans rights are nonsense?

Speaking out against an authoritarian government is not the same as transphobic rhetoric.
 

Ashlette

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Oh, I forgot that I have a physical copy of the Crash Team Racing remake. I will have to sell that and purchase something else.
 

loquaciousJenny

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Oct 25, 2017
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Is there a link to where this statement actually came from, an hour later and this dude is still the only person who has reported anything about it
 

aznpxdd

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Oct 25, 2017
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WTF...the castors literally hid behind their desks. What kinda world are we living in...sigh.
 

fertygo

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Oct 25, 2017
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This truly shakening me tbh

Its once a part of community that I admire and I aim for the competition.. I failed to achive it but still looking to the scene fondly.

Now its all gone.. I dont want involved to this scene anymore. Blitzchung deserve his money.

Blizzard is a fucking thief to stole his right.
 
Jun 1, 2019
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Dollars over conscience. It's funny to see these companies advocate for human rights until it affects their bottom lines. Money can reveal a lot of truth in the right circumstances.
 

Thorn

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Whats depressing is...I don't see this having a happy ending.

China has more Middle Class Consumers fully brainwashed than America has CITIZENS.

China is a fucking economic POWERHOUSE, and as long companies exist in a global market (thats not going away), then they are pretty much beholden to them. China figured out that Capitalism is best realized via crushing amorality.
 

Mekanos

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Where are the neoliberals to tell us how awesome capitalism is and we should be grateful it gave us video games?
 
Oct 25, 2017
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People love to write love letters about how great Blizzard are because they included POC and LGBTQ characters in Overwatch, but it seems that they happily side with violent repressals if the money leads there. Hopefully this will be a solid wake-up call about the fact that billion-dollar-companies like these don't play the inclusion card because they're so kind, they do it because they expect to find an audience. Now they've shown their teeth.
Did someone actually think like this? Of course they play the inclusion card to find an audience. These giant companies don't care, they want your money.
 

seady

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What sad about the Chinese is their citizens are under media censorship. What they receive from news everyday are far from the truth, and they are constantly fed with lies that they don't even know they are being blindfolded.

We in Hong Kong get to see newspaper from China and other places (as well as what we see with our eyes), the fake headline of Chinese newspaper depicting protestors are so horrible it's not even funny.
 

SENPAIatLARGE

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Blizzard is the kind of company that would fire someone for flashing a black power fist on camera during the 60s because white viewers would be offended. Utterly cowardly.
 

Mekanos

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What sad about the Chinese is their citizens are under media censorship. What they receive from news everyday are far from the truth, and they are constantly fed with lies that they don't even know they are being blindfolded.

We in Hong Kong get to see newspaper from China and other places (as well as what we see with our eyes), the fake headline of Chinese newspaper depicting protestors are so horrible it's not even funny.

American here. You guys have our sympathy, or at least mine if nobody else's. I have family from Hong Kong. Fight the power.
 

Thorn

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What sad about the Chinese is their citizens are under media censorship. What they receive from news everyday are far from the truth, and they are constantly fed with lies that they don't even know they are being blindfolded.

We in Hong Kong get to see newspaper from China and other places (as well as what we see with our eyes), the fake headline of Chinese newspaper depicting protestors are so horrible it's not even funny.

Yup, there's not going to be any revolution or gradual change to moderacy in China. At least not from its people. The Propaganda there is near NK Levels.
 

Calibro

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Repeat after me:

Blizzard supports the genocidal regime of China to earn more money.

Repeat it everywhere you see Blizzard mentioned.
 
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When is the right time? Cause it seems with China there is no right time.

How's Xi's boot taste?

"Shut up and dribble"


No politics in muh games.

A lack of politics is political

so stop pushing this idiotic narrative

Everything is political. Blizzard's reaction to this is because of politics. This take makes no sense.

Go to hell Xi's puppet!

Not saying I agree with this, but even the International Olympic Committee is against any political statement in their games. No politics in sport isn't something really new. If I remember right, something like that happened in the past involving them.
 

Thorn

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Not saying I agree with this, but even the International Olympic Committee is against any political statement in their games. No politics in sport isn't something really new. If I remember right, something like that happened in the past involving them.

And? The Olympic Committee is a bunch of cowards too.
 
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