It's a Q&A with fans who are primarily PC players who this game isn't necessarily for. I think it's quite obvious what would happen really.
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It's a Q&A with fans who are primarily PC players who this game isn't necessarily for. I think it's quite obvious what would happen really.
I mean they are completely allowed to make a diablo mobile game and it makes sense but it likely shouldnt be the biggest reveal at your own conference.
Anyone with enough common sense would've known not to just announce this. No news would've been better. The disrespectful part was announcing this cheap reskin of a Chinese mobile game as a Diablo title at one of the biggest events Blizzard has. This is something that should've been a side thing or just have randomly appear on Google Play one day.
Is this some kind of game to you where you want to be as snide and sarcastic as possible? you're not impressing or convincing anyone of anything so its just a waste of time and energy.
Blizzard is primarily a PC dev, Blizzcon is primarily attended by PC players. The guy asking about it being released for PC wasn't disrespectful, he genuinely wanted to give that game a shot without being tethered to mobile. I think he even mentions that he's a what they call MVP, so a community member who is contributing so much that they are sort of community leaders (at least that is my understanding), so it's obvious he's a huge fan of Blizzard and Diablo in particular.
And he is the one being disrespectful being told that "what, don't y'all got phones anyway lawl"?
And that's cool, I don't want to stop you enjoying it. With the rest of your post I don't think we are going to find common ground so I'll leave it there.
Yeah. Monetarily this makes so much sense for them and it'll be successful.
Don't make it the end. Jesus ending with WC3 would have been a much better idea.
So hopefully they will port it to PC too. I'm certain people will be overjoyed, since that's what they want.
They seemed like purely rhetorical questions.
I find booing at a live industry event to be in poor taste. The people who were involved with the project are literally in the same building as the audience. Like I said earlier, save it for social media. You don't see people booing or portbegging at D23 or SDCC panels.
That's bs. I buy a virtual ticket every year hoping for Diablo news. Last year was better than this and that was pretty much nothing. This was probably the worst BlizzCon for Diablo fans and I can promise you that people in that audience are just as disappointed as I am.
Yeah, what we got in the Q&A was basically non-answers, and unless if the game is going to get overhauled, it's going to be a black mark in the IP.
Because it is worse than what we have. It has less depth (only 4 active skills). It has less mechanics (no mana/resource). The controls and inputs allow for less options and strategy for an action-based game(touch screen, ofc). Gear does not even change your appearance. Plus, it's not even being made BY Blizzard. Why would I be excited for a game announced at fucking Blizzcon that's not made by the studio hosting the event?
The new Diablo announcement is a bizarre half-game compared to even Diablo 3, which has plenty to improve upon as is and was already VERY simplified and streamlined to the point of basically being a party game (which I still enjoy, mind you).
I knew Diablo 4 wasn't going to be there but good god this announcement is a bad time, and Blizzcon is not where you announce this. Hearthstone is one of the most mobile friendly games I can imagine and even it has a huge PC presence and started on PC.
If only Blizard didn't have an example of the same exact thing happening
Will never understand people defending huge companies like they're the mom and pop store on the corner. Will never understand how every single art form in the world is subject to critique, critiques that can easy be hurled from dozens of platforms on a daily basis, but for some it's " Won't someone please think of the dev's" / " fukn Gamers miRite??"
At least artifact actually looks like a cool, interesting take on the genre. Immortal just looks like generic action mobile game with a D3 skin.
People need to stop defending this. It is a straight up cash grab re-skin of NetEase's Endless of God with a little Diablo Paint. This is not a labor of love by Blizzard and criticism is warranted.
Ask about a game that doesn't exist at a Q&A for a specific new game just announced.
I can just type in "SDCC booing" and there are plenty of other examples, Zack Snyder, Peyton Reed etc. Other communities are just as toxic.
The April fools joke question was perfect, it encapsulates the fan's reaction without you know, devolving into swears, and or worse.
That's a hostile question, but it's the kind of hostile that makes a great soundbyte. I don't think it's out of line at all. Trying to take the question literally also misses the point. The question was obviously rhetorical.
That's a hostile question, but it's the kind of hostile that makes a great soundbyte. I don't think it's out of line at all. Trying to take the question literally also misses the point. The question was obviously rhetorical.
I've been following the communications around bfa a lot pre and post launch and I'm now convinced that this company has a worse marketing problem than 2006 Sony. They're also even more out of touch with their playerbase.
Play it first critique it then, absolutely fine. "I don't want to try it, give me something else" isn't critique. It's not just games either. If I would make a thread "Disney, stop making Marvel movies those don't interest me". People would tell me to shut the fuck up and just watch something else that does interest me.
But this is a big announcement. It goes to show that Blizzard is licensing out their IP's, in this case Diablo, to devs of other platforms.
I can't argue with that. It should have just ended with a no, but like I said, that response was probably preempted by the April fool's joke question.
Blizzard misread the room in typical Blizz fashion. Death threats, petitions to cancel the game, dev harassment on Twitter isn't fine, but booing and downvoting is absolutely fair game.
Ok, maybe not a question about D4, but he could have asked other questions related to the game like energy timers, IAP's and whatnot.
He wasn't told that. He was told that it's Android and iOS without any plans of PC at the moment. The booing crowd was asked that you have phones right?
Lol they announced a mobile and people think they can harass devs. Keep up your gamer fight, man
Naw, the April Fool's joke wasn't even asked yet. There is a video on Youtube for the Q & A and the April Joke question was one of the last questions while asking if it would be on pc was one of the first questions.
Please show me where I have harassed devs or encouraged that behavior? Nice argument, man.
That's quite a bit different from a company/studio taking an undesired direction with an existing property people loved, and there is precedence for fans to at least be partially right. The RMHA was a fiasco for Diablo 3 and Blizzard eventually got rid of it and retooled a ton of the game towards fan feedback, which improved it hugely. It would also be fair to say that series fans of Devil May Cry weren't interested in a reboot like DmC compared to a potential DMC5, as proven by DmC selling worse than DMC4 and Capcom later opting for a successor to DMC4 instead of DmC2. Even decisions more genuinely divisive like RE7 being first person, in spite of it being quite successful, was walked back on slightly with the DLC having third person cut-scenes and the next main game, RE2make, being fully third person like prior games.
Fans obviously do not always know best, but your comparison here is ridiculous. Are Diablo fans just supposed shut the fuck up and go play games from other series now?
I see. Thanks for clarifying. As I've said before, it should have just ended with a no.
I actually think he said "no one plays FPS like they use to on M/KB" something along those lines, but he meant it as in games are designed around Controllers, which is true for most AAA games, just like most people own Phones, still, it's tone deaf to say things like that to the wrong audience.
Diablo fans are supposed to wait for the next mainline game that is coming. What else can they do, play it during development? I guess Blizzard could start doing early access if people really want it. And I don't understand why spinoffs are considered some undesired direction. Uncharted has had handheld spinoffs, gears of war has PC exclusive tactics spinoff coming, also that one game with those big headed figures. Marvel/Disney has mobile games. Hasn't hurt the mainline products to my knowledge.
Ah I see, not familiar with the original quote. But obviously people play on m/kb, even Xbox is starting to officially support it. So it's not even just a PC thing. But that's not for this thread.
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A couple of things I'd like to chime in with...
1. Is it a gacha game? I haven't gotten a chance to read up on it or watch the video due to work. I'll probably skip it anyway, due to it being a mobile title.
2. Did everyone suddenly forget the full name of the company? It doesn't excuse this being a mobile game, but I mean...Activision bro.
1. Is it a gacha game? I haven't gotten a chance to read up on it or watch the video due to work. I'll probably skip it anyway, due to it being a mobile title.
2. Did everyone suddenly forget the full name of the company? It doesn't excuse this being a mobile game, but I mean...Activision bro.
Obviously we don't know what goes on behind the scenes so Activision may have influenced this. David Brevik said a little while ago that Activision may be trying to gain more and more influence in Blizzard (obviously he's kind of guessing as he hasn't worked at Blizzard in a long time).
The next mainline game that Blizzard hasn't literally acknowledged? All we have to go on are rumors and Blizzard being extremely vague. Confirming/teasing Diablo 4 would have been a great way to make this go a lot more smoothly, and maybe even generate some actual excitement for Immortal. Look at how successful FO Shelter was and how much buzz it got? And that's largely due to the goodwill attachment it had to go with the excitement for Fallout 4. Elder Scrolls Blades didn't get the same level of attention or love, but the confirmation of ES6 at least kept people mildly neutral/curious about it, especially since THAT is at least coming to console and PC. Also, your comparison with Gears and Uncharted is way off base since Gears POP/Tactics was announced alongside Gears 5, and there was never any 6+ year gap between Uncharted sequels where the only announcements we got were a phone-only spin off.
It's been over six and half years since Diablo 3 came out. I truly don't think it's unreasonable for Blizzard's major Diablo announcement at this point to be Diablo 4, or at least SOME Diablo project like a remake (points at Warcraft 3) that's playable on PC/maybe console.
Thank goodness I have no emotional attachment to the Diablo series, because this announcement must feel like a slap in the face to any fan. There's a reason games like TESVI at least get teased alongside the mobile knock-off version nobody asked for except some corporate exec pondering their next stock bonus.
If I didn't already understand how arrogant and outright clueless Blizzard is after following Overwatch, I'd almost be surprised at the situation.
If I didn't already understand how arrogant and outright clueless Blizzard is after following Overwatch, I'd almost be surprised at the situation.
Sorry if this has already been answered, but what if Diablo: Immortal is D4? Does Blizzard really have the resources to create two Diablo titles in tandem?
