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Blizzard VP, Overwatch director Jeff Kaplan wants blitzchung’s suspension ‘reduced more or eliminated’
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Whoever came up with this sheer fisting of a disciplinary action can go fuck themselves. Do me a favour so I don't run my company's reputation into the ground for this kind of jackass shit-fest again, send me an email at [email protected] when you decide to A) Implement decision-making processes that weren't designed by a chimp chained to a cubicle B) Get an ethics board C) Actually consult on the fucking matter and D) Tell China to fuck off. And please for god's sake - do it in the order I laid out for you. Don't worry, I won't charge you a consulting fee on that one. And for good luck you might as well E) Get off of Winnie the Pooh's dick. While you're at it, rename the company to the People's Republic of Blizzard since you've used up you're allotted goodwill karma on Diablo Eternal and all the WoW expansions since LK. Fix your priorities. Fix your esports. Rethink your oppression bullshit. Fix all the shitty, corporate policies (I suggest you let whoever decided to return Blitzchung's money take over since that dude apparently laid off the crack the rest of you were smoking). Fix Diablo 4 and Shadowlands (just guessing it's fucked up considering your track record.) Don't have to resources to fix this stuff? Move the ENTIRE Blizzard corporation away from Activision AND DO IT NOW. If you don't rescind all of Blitzchung's punishments, you jackassess will be the only ones buying your games.
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Read it as it is: Blizzchung was punished for critizing the chinese goverment. Noone, including Kaplan, says he was punished for critizing the chinese goverment. They won't ackknowledged it. And the discussion is now only about whether the punishment was too hard.
The message has been sent.
I don't think they've dedicated that much thought to it. Companies don't usually want customers to think they have "bad guys", let alone the president himself. The VP disagreeing with the president is a pretty big blow to credibility and particularly to the notion that Blizzard did the right thing. Fans can far more easily lie themselves into believing everything is fine if Blizzard presents an united front with no fissures.
The only way this would play out as an efficient move in regaining credibility is if Brack stepped down, Kaplan was made CEO, and blitzchung and the casters were fully pardoned. I don't see any of these things happening.
Lol they are like bugs bunny, skip skip skip skip around the issue. When are they actually going to talk about what incident they are talking about? Never? Never!
Fuck China, Fuck Blizzard and lets hope that lots of shit goes there way.
Free Hong Kong and stand for freedom and against oppression.
Fuck China, Fuck Blizzard and lets hope that lots of shit goes there way.
Free Hong Kong and stand for freedom and against oppression.
Any conspiracy seems "astute" to the one that believes in it. Doesn't make them any truer.
And, I mean, what Blizzard is actually, provably doing is nefarious enough as it is. There's no reason to distract from that with conjectures of complicated supervillain-level plans.
Edit: In case it's not clear: I fully believe his statement has been filtered through how many layers of PR Blizzard has in place to appease to their Chinese overlords. I just don't buy that his disagreement with Blizzard policy is, itself, faked, or that this is a move to make him contrast with Brack and make the latter into a scapegoat.
Great news, but I doubt it leads to action.
Just like Blizzard themselves said last week, actions speak louder than words. Amazing how they just say that on stage and literally do nothing.
Just like Blizzard themselves said last week, actions speak louder than words. Amazing how they just say that on stage and literally do nothing.
...Kojima as well when he was at Konami.
(funny to hear Kaplan as the example of "old Blizzard", considering he was hired to work on World of Warcraft)
I have no clue how you ended up believing that it's the "distrusting corporations" part that I find delusional, as opposed to, you know, the "crafting elaborate theories of complicated, roundabout plans that would not actually benefit said corporation in the slightest, based in absolutely no proof" part.
There's nothing elaborate or roundabout in my thinking here. I believe these are Jeff's honest opinions; I also believe that they don't matter. The needle won't move. I think that treating this like a bold and brave action on Jeff's part is shortsighted.
It benefits Blizzard to let a beloved figure speak his mind. It costs them nothing. Overwatch builds goodwill ("well Blizzard sucks, but Jeff has his head on straight!") and Blitzcheung and the casters remain punished. The big wheel keeps on turning.
Believe me if it really does turn out that Blizzard is frothing mad about this and Jeff gets blackballed the way Kojima did that'll be pretty interesting and I'll happily eat crow. Somehow I doubt the Activision higher ups are dropping their monocles and jumping up and down on their top hats over this though.
This. Let's see some action from the Vice President of Blizzard. Hm, what do you say about that, Jeff?
It's weird how we heard so much at blizcon about how actions are louder that words, but we still aren't seeing any.
People Saying Jeff Kaplan is the VP of the company... There's multiple, and also Activision brass above him.
Not saying that him acting like it's something completely removed from him isn't right. It's not, it's fucked up. But he can't just snap his fingers either.
Not saying that him acting like it's something completely removed from him isn't right. It's not, it's fucked up. But he can't just snap his fingers either.
Not this shit again.
The company came out and stated their stance on the situation, offered a NON-APOLOGY while punishment remains.
Then they allow "individual employee" to express their "personnel opinion" on the matter, which matters to NOTHING.
What do people mean by Blizzard hasn't done enough? They did absolutely fucking NOTHING.
Go have the communist money, you won't have mine.
The company came out and stated their stance on the situation, offered a NON-APOLOGY while punishment remains.
Then they allow "individual employee" to express their "personnel opinion" on the matter, which matters to NOTHING.
What do people mean by Blizzard hasn't done enough? They did absolutely fucking NOTHING.
Go have the communist money, you won't have mine.
Nah they can't fire Overwatch. It was already shut down once I don't think it can happen again
WoW is over 15 years old. Kaplan literally placed the mobs in Molten Core and their pathing. He's 100% part of old blizzard.
I personally know someone under the Blizzard umbrella that had to ask their superiors about responding to a question I had about it.
This ain't much. Sorry Kaplan.
This ain't much. Sorry Kaplan.
I'm still stumped that they really are that stubborn and gives no inch in reducing/eliminating the ban at blizzcon. Hey Blizzard, ever heard of the word 'warning'? It's Blizchung's first time of doing this, he didn't shout for threatening human lives, he's just saying words that show his patriotism to his country, why is the punishment so fucking severe? Even 6 months is still too harsh. Brack you fuck.
We just watched his boss not say in the least that he was sorry for actually banning Blitzchung or suspending the casters.
What are you actually expecting? A corporate coup d'etat?
The only issue with that is that the position Brack has now is nothing but a mouthpiece for Activision. I would hate to see Jeff have to do stupid"apologies" like Brack has to. Activision loves a puppet like Brack
They reduced it once, and eliminating all punishment really would just open the doorway for all players to break rules they set. I dont think he should of been banned or punished but they put those rules there for a reason and just ignoring they exist doesn't excuse it for any reason.
Yeah! How dare he violate the "we can ban you for any reason we want" rule?
Lest we forget, this was the "rule" that he "broke", according to Blizzard:
"engaging in any act that, in Blizzard's sole discretion, brings you into public disrepute, offends a portion or group of the public, or otherwise damages Blizzard image."
There is one thing that would show, indisputably, that Kaplan is speaking of his own mind without Blizzard's approval. There are many reasons (some legit) why it would never happen, but.
Tell us why the suspension hasn't been lifted.
Tell us why the suspension hasn't been lifted.
I did say the guy shouldnt have been banned, I'm just saying the rules they put forth are there for a reason. Not having them or not upholding people who accept them when going into the competition opens a huge can of worms and invites anyone to go and say whatever they want and whatever they want might just be something vile that you don't agree with it.
User banned (1 week): Dismissive commentary around LGBTQ+ issues
You mean the rule where no politics is allowed but Brack constantly shoves their pro-lgbtq+ stance down our throats acting like that's not politics?
Did you read a single line of my post? What rule did he violate?
Also lol at the blatant slippery slope fallacy. :D
It's even worse than that. There's not even such a thing as "no politics" rule; that has been made ad-hoc by Blizzard stans to excuse his punishment, but the rule Blizzard themselves cite as the reason for his ban doesn't even mention politics at all. It's just a catch-all "anything that we find offensive", which is as much a rule as "I know it when I see it" is a definition.
I'm a cynical fuck and even I don't think this is some calculated pr from the top. First of all Blizzard doesn't want this being talked about anymore so they sure as hell wouldn't tell him to say all these things AFTER the positive Blizzcon gaming news. Secondly this does nothing for Blizzard the company as a whole this literally ONLY makes Kaplan look good.
If anything this looks like a self preservation move by Kaplan. A pr move maybe but only by Jeff to keep his name in good faith if he ever found himself not with Blizzard anymore. All I know is that there is nothing at all to gain by Acti/Blizzard from Kaplan taking the high road. It actually makes the rest of them look bad.
The rule is that anything they don't like at any time they can ban you for. Guess we know what you don't like.