There's already a beta branch up on steam with a bunch of fixes, they are working on it. https://steamcommunity.com/app/1010750/discussions/0/1649918058737843575/
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Blood: Fresh Supply, Nightdive Studios' remaster of the 90's horror shooter classic is out now on GOG & Steam
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There's already a beta branch up on steam with a bunch of fixes, they are working on it. https://steamcommunity.com/app/1010750/discussions/0/1649918058737843575/
There's a setting in gameplay options called "full 3D aim look". Turn that on to make the Build-style view distortion go away. Also try turning off slope tilting in the same menu.
Thank goodness for Civvie. I was waiting for his impressions before making a purchase (well that, and free cash). Thankfully Nightdive are working on fixes. The changes to fire damage and Tesla shots are kind of alarming.
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Yeah, same here. I knew it was kind of difficult, but I was having trouble playing on anything but the lowest difficulty. I think I'll try playing through the entire game on the lowest difficulty and start another run on the next difficulty level up, but I don't foresee myself being able to finish it that way.
I bit the bullet and started getting the DOSBOX version configured last night, and what a pain-in-the-ass that is. I really hope Nightdive sticks with this and can get most of the issues patched. Things like incorrect damage values make me think Fresh Supply is best avoided for now, even though it's way more convenient to play.
Despite my frustrations, I'm loving the game. Things like emphasizing TNT or making the flare gun do DoT make it feel really unique. I'm digging the bizarre, grotesque aesthetic too. I can see why it has a cult following.
Despite my frustrations, I'm loving the game. Things like emphasizing TNT or making the flare gun do DoT make it feel really unique. I'm digging the bizarre, grotesque aesthetic too. I can see why it has a cult following.
Seeing Civvie's video and knowing that I'm about as anal about Blood as he is, I'll probably wait till everything is fixed. The core elements seem to be well translated, but there are so many things off, like those misplaced mid-air explosions, wrong animations and certain sponge-like enemies. Not to mention that the blood effects of all things seem to be either reduced or not properly working.
Back in the day I had a Philips CD-RW unit back in the day that came with play, pause, stop, back and forward buttons for music playing without Window's craptacular multimedia software. Blood's audio tracks were on rotation. Fucking evil they were. And the MIDI versions weren't half bad with an AWE32 sound card.
Anyone getting weird stutters occasionally? 7700k and 2080, at 1440p. It SEEMS like turning off ambient occlusion fixed it, but it needs more testing.
Well there's your problem. I'm surprised the game even boots on such a weak machine.
Same way they botched the alt-fire of the flare gun. From what I've looked, it looks pretty rushed.
Damn shame, because I really like some of the stuff they did in other areas, like the extra voxel work. At least they are listening to the fans, so I expect ND to patch those issues.
So my regular Blood from GoG doesn't update to this?
And I tried replying a few months ago and kept running out of ammo. Game is no joke.
And I tried replying a few months ago and kept running out of ammo. Game is no joke.
Re: difficulty.
Blood is a real bastard of a game. Evil to the marrow.
It was also wicked fast for the era. It was one of the few 2.5D games to have vertical aiming on top of being very, very unforgiving. It's closer in many ways to Doom's most recent incarnations than it is to Duke Nukem 3D despite using the Build engine. There were times where you couldn't get yourself out of a room even with akimbo napalm launchers/shooties.
If you haven't played Blood before and/or you are not as picky as some of us old farts are, you should totally get this. It's FPS nirvana with a shitton of nerdy references, crazy level design and a monstruous vibe that trascends its primitive graphics. And the gameplay seems very, very close to the original despite some odd divergences that may be patched down the line.
Blood is a real bastard of a game. Evil to the marrow.
It was also wicked fast for the era. It was one of the few 2.5D games to have vertical aiming on top of being very, very unforgiving. It's closer in many ways to Doom's most recent incarnations than it is to Duke Nukem 3D despite using the Build engine. There were times where you couldn't get yourself out of a room even with akimbo napalm launchers/shooties.
If you haven't played Blood before and/or you are not as picky as some of us old farts are, you should totally get this. It's FPS nirvana with a shitton of nerdy references, crazy level design and a monstruous vibe that trascends its primitive graphics. And the gameplay seems very, very close to the original despite some odd divergences that may be patched down the line.
It actually shoots both 4 and 5 in the original DOS release, and the QAV matches this logic (it's not something we programmed, the animation is what defined it, and we are using the animations unedited). What's happening is actually the result of botched framerate logic from the original game, but because with the updated engine the framerate timings are more accurate and, for that matter, fixed, it now results in the animation always completing its cycles exactly on the same counts, so it always produces 4 shots instead of the DOS versions 4 or 5. Yes, whether it fired 4 or 5 in DOS was entirely based on your actual framerate.
The port wasn't rushed, it was always going to end up like this on initial launch, the logistics of porting an entire game from disassembly without documentation is quite complicated, especially when the code base had a lot of arbitrary dead code. We are only human and can only do so much with what we have on hand.
I've played a bunch of it and think it's fine and that Nightdive did a great job. There is always going to be super specific issues for purists when you are porting a 20 year old game to an entire new engine. I think they should do what they can to fix those but it also has to be recognized that most of these issues aren't noticeable for 99% of people.
Thank you for the hard work! I've never played the original before, so this is a great way to experience it! I look forward to see the further improvements (mostly to sound volume and music not playing) you guys make.
Been playing Dusk which has renewed my love for this genre. Gonna be picking this up for sure, especially since it's only $10.
I love getting this insight! Very cool to hear why things happen the way they do. Thanks for the responses.
The first update, version 1.8.8 has shipped. Changes:
This update breaks your saves. I bolded the patch note with instructions for loading saves from the previous version.
I especially appreciate that ND is putting in work to fix problems with running Death Wish. It's common for remasters or even just major patches to screw up good mods, but Fresh Supply is making Death Wish work despite running on a radically different code base.
This update breaks your saves. I bolded the patch note with instructions for loading saves from the previous version.
I especially appreciate that ND is putting in work to fix problems with running Death Wish. It's common for remasters or even just major patches to screw up good mods, but Fresh Supply is making Death Wish work despite running on a radically different code base.
Eh.
I hope the next patch fixes the textures. Blood is an incredibly brown game, but for some reason so many textures appear crimson, leading to an oddly oversaturated look. If they can mend that and the flare gun, they'll sell another copy.
Hoping the issues get fixed soon, this patch is a step in the right direction but still a lot of things that need fixing.
Nightdive are a great studio and I know they will be listening to the community and especially someone like Civvie (who is frankly the best person to speak to about issues with blood) to get them fixed ASAP.
I am going to put down the game for now until these problems are fixed but I am looking forward to when they are because other than the issues already mentioned they have done a fantastic job modernising it.
Nightdive are a great studio and I know they will be listening to the community and especially someone like Civvie (who is frankly the best person to speak to about issues with blood) to get them fixed ASAP.
I am going to put down the game for now until these problems are fixed but I am looking forward to when they are because other than the issues already mentioned they have done a fantastic job modernising it.
... we probably had some current ports then anyway. At the least Doom 64 coming out.
Press the same key again to unbind a control.
Press whatever you have bound to use to respawn (There's a 3 second delay before the action is accepted to prevent shock restarts). If you are getting a crash while saving, please send me the crash log, you'll find it in your Blood installation folder as anuket_x64.dmp.
I just did the same late last year, although I'm super excited to try this version. Blood remains in my top five FPS of all time.
Edward850 can you look into improving surround sound support? Last time i checked it was very shoddy (most of "frontal" sfx sounds from back speakers and sometimes vice versa), so i need to switch to stereo mode to hear something right. I know its a very old game, but some source ports have very good surround sound implementation (like Yamagi Quake 2 - https://www.yamagi.org/quake2/ or GZDoom)
Have been loving this so far (never even played the original, don't ban me) but is it me or is Extra Crispy kind of impossible? You die almost instantly when faced with enemies equipped with guns and there isn't enough ammo to last you a single fight. Was that difficulty setting always as ridiculous as this?
Oh and is the main menu supposed to be dead silent?
Oh and is the main menu supposed to be dead silent?
Yeah, I've read somewhere that extra crispy is intended for coop play. If not, it's still completely impossible without an absurd amount of save-scumming, which totally destroys any fun.
I found the following suggestion for a custom difficulty on the steam forums, and IMHO it makes the game a lot more fun for me. When starting a new game choose "MADE TO ORDER" difficulty and then set the following:
Source: https://steamcommunity.com/app/1010750/discussions/0/1649918058728474399/#c1649918058731345907
We actually have zero control over that. It's up to OpenAL to handle surround sound output, and if it doesn't work on your setup, then that's just that. Having said that I've recently found the OpenAL library we ship with has been acting a bit odd in a few places (notabley it seems to be singlehandedly responsible for audio attenuation problems in multiplayer) and are currently testing a new library, which seems to fix the issues, for compatibility. The new library may fix your supposed issues along with it if they are at all related (I can't verify that to any capacity). If it works out we'll chuck that in.
Will try that out sometime. Currently going through the game on the setting below Extra Crispy (Well Done?) and I actually have quick save and load on Mouse 3 and 4 lol. It's a lot more manageable but you're still dead as quick as can be.
Found the super secret on the Carnival level. Love the good old days when games rewarded exploring every nook and cranny like that.
I wish the save system was a bit less old-school though. Could do with a date and screencap of where you left off.
Thanks!
PS - yeah, GZDoom and Yamagi Quake 2 also using OpenAL