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Bloomberg/Jason Schreier: ‘Dead Space’ Franchise Is Officially On Hold at Electronic Arts
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I think timing wise it was just released at a bad time.
It was right after Callisto and right before RE4. I skipped both this and Callisto and got RE4 instead.
It was right after Callisto and right before RE4. I skipped both this and Callisto and got RE4 instead.
I'm sure it would probably help choosing one over another for a few, including myself
That's sad but it's a harsh reality of AAA development. Well at least the remake was a good nostalgia trip.
Also feels like it's partly due to the IP itself imo; seems like there's not much room to expand beyond the horror of alien artifacts mutating humans etc etc.
Half of the original creators tried to offer something new with Callisto Protocol but ended up with roughly the same product lore-wise - vague generic space lore, mutated humans due to experimentation with alien things, but now with punching instead of dismemberment.
Re: what DS2 could have been - I'm a little happy they considered not following the original game at all; I would not have been interested in a 1 to 1 remake.
Also feels like it's partly due to the IP itself imo; seems like there's not much room to expand beyond the horror of alien artifacts mutating humans etc etc.
Half of the original creators tried to offer something new with Callisto Protocol but ended up with roughly the same product lore-wise - vague generic space lore, mutated humans due to experimentation with alien things, but now with punching instead of dismemberment.
Re: what DS2 could have been - I'm a little happy they considered not following the original game at all; I would not have been interested in a 1 to 1 remake.
probably because it has WoM for running like shit on PC. That tends to kill long-term legs for a floundering release.
Sad reality is that SH franchise combined sold overall less copies than a lot of single Resident Evil titles. For example, as of December 2018, the entire franchise sold only 9 million units, which Resident Evil 2 Remake alone surpassed in few years.
SH2 is a cult classic and has now critical appreciation, but the series never was selling great. RE games are an anomaly in this regard, and I dont think any horror games series can come even remotely close to their financial success. Hell, even Alan Wake 2, a trendy and critical darling that for some rivaled Baldurs Gate 3 and Zelda in last year, didnt sell amazingly well. Or Alien Isolation: great game with superb reception and popular IP was considered a financial failure by Creative Assembly and SEGA. (btw it blew my mind when I discovered that CA - known for amazing strategy games series "Total War" - developed Alien Isolation. What a range!).
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It couldn't have been THAT expensive to make. Unlike what we expect from AAAs, Dead Space Remake only took 2.5 years to develop. It wasn't some dragged out mess from a bloated team.
EA's expectations are too high.
That said, I've always wanted to play Dead Space but I saved myself for RE4 Remake and now I'm taking a break from the genre. I imagine the timing just wasn't great for people. We saw that a lot in 2023.
They are very different games though...
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I bought it twice! How many damn times do I need to buy my favorite games til they're a success?
You can dislike DS2 for being more action heavy, centered on setpieces and cinematic scenes, or you may prefer the ship environments, but to be fair DS2 is linear and scripted in the same way DS1 is.
DS1 doesn't have nearly as many scripted "epic" sequences as ds2. DS1 also felt more open as you have more backtracking. Making it feel more like you're actually exploring a space instead of just being pushed forward through it.
Fair point. It's a shame we won't get to see Motives take on the sequel because some of their updates to the layout of the areas and the connectivity of it all was really good.
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Sorry I meant that you may not like the cinematic/epic/action sequences, but general gameplay in both games is scripted the same way. The same enemies always appear in the same rooms each and every playthrough.
In regards to the exploration, I guess it depends on what you prefer as a setting. I wouldn't equate backtracking to more freedom, especially since said backtracking is forced by the story (DS1 Isaac also gets pushed around the ship by Hammond and Kendra constantly). DS2 has a much richer variety in scenarios which to me feels more open, instead of going twice through the same levels but now there's different enemies. In any case progress in both games is completely linear with limited chances for side-exploration.
In general I would consider both extremely linear and based on scripted encounters, and definitely follows the same formula. I like them both BTW.
And the sad reality is they probably don't need anything else.
I'd still rather get the remake and then see the series re-shelved, than to just keep the series on the shelf permanently. So it's not ideal, but I'm still glad we got what we did.
This is why remakes are bad TBH.
It could've been a new DS game and it could've sold better because of that making future DS games possible.
Instead we've got a mostly pointless remake which didn't add anything of value to the franchise, sold poorly and has killed it again.
It selling better is completely speculative, though. As much as DSR didn't change enough (and I'd argue that changing the structure to allow free roam on the Ishimura was enough--arguably more of a value add than RE2R and 3R, which had serious omissions), I imagine a DS4, with zero of the OG creatives, while the OG creatives were making a new space horror game would have similar issues exciting the fanbase.
And like, a 4 might excite the fanbase, but the Dead Space fanbase was not significant enough to keep it alive back then. Giving us a chapter 4 a full decade and two console generations after 3 would lock out new people--and new people was what was needed.
Capcom had no issue grabbing new people. Both RE2R and 3R sold multiple times what the OG releases did (and the dreamcast, PC, and GameCube ports could not have been you substantial, as Capcom didnt provide tracking data for them), caveat being RE at its worst has always sold better than Dead Space. RE4R is the fastest-selling game in the franchise, and it's arguably the quintessential unnecessary remake, as RE4 OG still is readily available and is still making greatest of all time lists.
So the question is, if DS4 came out instead and failed, would we blame Motive for making a game that only the fanbase cared about, or for bastardizing a once-great series that really could've been brought back if they stuck to the fundamentals?
Amazing how it felt like big budget survival horror was about to be a thing. Then the only game that did well for publishers was RE4 remake.
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Not true, there's also RE2 Remake, RE3 Remake, Resident Evill VII: Biohazard, and Resident Evil Village.
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I sense a pattern here.
Is it? A new game in a beloved franchise is by definition more interesting than a not-so-different remake of a game everyone own already.
I absolutely hated that part of the remake as it added unnecessary backtracking and padding making the gameplay pacing worse not better.
In a new game with a new story this would be less of an issue as both the story and the game structure could've been made better for "open world like" design approach.
By that metric a DS1R is even less interesting to everyone including the fanbase.
The good news is you can still play DS2, which had less things to "fix" than DS1 did (in my opinion), on Xbox BC and it still looks and plays great!
The bad news is you can't play it on PS5, and if you're on PC, you miss out on the story DLC.