Bloomberg: PlayStation 5's Bill of Materials have been pushed up to $450 due to scarce NAND and DRAM components

Sulik2

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Uhm, ok so while expensive, the rumor has been $499 for both consoles being the price goal for like a year now.
 

Gamechanger87

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Lol right?
I feel like this forum often just blindly accepts things from Bloomberg or Forbes Contributors as fact despite their terrible history.
Bloomberg in particular has been posting complete fabrications as "Reports" when it comes to tech for years now. The most notorious of which of course being when they claimed there were invisible spy chips in a bunch of server components coming from China.
This reporter is a well respected tech journalist in Tokyo covering asian tech companies. They just left the WSJ at the end of the year to join Bloomberg.

I have a sneaking suspicion that they have good sources.

Don’t discount a real journalist just because you don’t like what they say
 

HeroR

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Those people want a $1000+ PC stuffed into a small box. It's never going to happen. Consoles are aimed at a market that is fairly price sensitive. Half a grand entry point for a game console is a pretty big no-go for a lot of parents.
Depends. Like people called the Switch DOA since at $300 it was too expensive for the casual market since it was just a beef up handheld, while too underpowered for the hardcore who could buy a PS4 for only a little more money. That and unlike what happened with the PS3 and the Xbox One, the next console with similar specs isn't going to be $100 cheaper.
 
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Protome

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What's more reliable than Bloomberg? WSJ might be it? Or is this a joke post...
Bloomberg historically have been very inaccurate with their tech reporting.

This reporter is a well respected tech journalist in Tokyo covering asian tech companies. They just left the WSJ at the end of the year to join Bloomberg.

I have a sneaking suspicion that they have good sources.

Don’t discount a real journalist just because you don’t like what they say
Fair, I didn't know that! I wasn't discounting the journalist because I didn't like what they said, I discounted them because they're writing for a publication with a bad track record on this kind of thing. I didn't know the journalist themselves has a good track record.
 

Samanyolu

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$500 sounds great. Lets go
Most of the components for the console have been locked down, the people said, including the cooling system, which is unusually expensive at a few dollars per unit. Typically, companies would spend less than a dollar, but Sony opted to lavish more on making sure heat dissipation from the powerful chips housed inside the console isn’t an issue.
This sounds absolutely great! My biggest gripe with the PS4 is the damn noise it makes. So annoying. I hope the PS5 doesn’t suffer from this, because I can’t take another 6 years of this shit
 

Nardy_19

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Surprised they can’t make it $400, guess Moore’s Law is slowing down? Interesting to see how much the Series X costs since it’s always sounded like it was $500 minimum.



I wouldn’t think so. I can’t find it, but I remember the news a few years ago that Sony sold the PS4 for only a $5 profit.

Edit: Nevermind, seems like they made an $18 profit on PS4
"Only"?! , considering the number of units sold......that's a TON of profit made.
 

Gamechanger87

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Bloomberg historically have been very inaccurate with their tech reporting.


Fair, I didn't know that! I wasn't discounting the journalist because I didn't like what they said, I discounted them because they're writing for a publication with a bad track record on this kind of thing. I didn't know the journalist themselves has a good track record.
Here is their prior background.

https://www.wsj.com/search/term.html?min-date=2016/02/14&max-date=2020/02/14&daysback=4y&isAdvanced=true&byline=Takashi Mochizuki&andor=AND&sort=date-desc&source=wsjarticle,wsjblogs,wsjvideo,interactivemedia,sitesearch,wsjpro
 

bionic77

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You can get it cheaper but I think the retail price of the PS4 Pro is still $399. If the PS5 is $499 I wonder if Sony is taking a loss on the new console or just gouging us on the old one?

I paid 600 for my PS3 so 500 seems reasonable to me in 2020 but no one ever complained about getting more for less.
 

Richardi

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This reporter is a well respected tech journalist in Tokyo covering asian tech companies. They just left the WSJ at the end of the year to join Bloomberg.

I have a sneaking suspicion that they have good sources.

Don’t discount a real journalist just because you don’t like what they say
Still waiting for that Switch Pro...
 

TitlePending

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When you factor in inflation, and $400 USD back in 2013 is ~$450 USD now then $500 for more advanced tech in 2020 seems reasonably priced to me.
 

Tharp

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I don't mind paying a premium if it keeps my PS5 from sounding like a jet trying to take off.
 

SpecDot

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Take the loss and sell for $450. Then merge with Nintendo to release the Nintendo Playstation with Xbox GamePassNow as their primary service.
 

Antrax

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nice way to be reductive regarding a games consoles worth when we're on a place to discuss video games
This is a silly argument. Just because it's a gaming hobbyist forum doesn't mean we should be pretending like consoles aren't GTA Online/FIFA/Fortnite boxes, and the vast majority of consumers use their phones much more often than they use their gaming consoles.

And I still see people talking about phones being $1K. Is that a thing outside the US (I know we have a fair number of international members) for new phone purchases? Most people here just add like $30 (for example) to their monthly phone bill. You don't have to cut a check for $1K on the spot like you do with a console.
 
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$500 sounds reasonable then.

I don't see them going with a price tag like $550, but who knows.

Interested to see what they go with.
 

Marukoban

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Bloomberg historically have been very inaccurate with their tech reporting.


Fair, I didn't know that! I wasn't discounting the journalist because I didn't like what they said, I discounted them because they're writing for a publication with a bad track record on this kind of thing. I didn't know the journalist themselves has a good track record.
I think ZhugeEx supported this article, which means it must be somewhat accurate.

 

maabus1999

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Huge APU on an expensive production process. Consider that a PC GPU videocard which is about 1/2 in size of the XSX's APU and likely with half the RAM is retailing at $400 right now.
Can't do direct comparison due to economies of scale ordering. Since both companies will be ordering in the millions plus efficiencies of not selling it as a standalone product, it will be considerably cheaper.
 

Isayas

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Huge APU on an expensive production process. Consider that a PC GPU videocard which is about 1/2 in size of the XSX's APU and likely with half the RAM is retailing at $400 right now.
But most posters on here always say to me that retail price has nothing to do with the components of the console.
 

asmith906

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I think Sony wanted to go with a $399 price and sell the PS5 at cost. I would not bee shocked to see a $399 and $499 version.

This basically confirms what I thought, that we won't see a PS5 full reveal until after E3.
 

LordBaztion

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So, the XSX is either, slightly or consirably more powerful than the PS5, while being acordingly more expensive, making lockhart even more important for MS' competitiveness, while having the issue of being hard to sell at launch for not having next gen exclusive games.
 

asmith906

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What does DRAM pricing have to do with their reveal?
They reveal is a huge part of PS4 success. After seeing what Microsoft did first they were able to react to it. It wouldn't shock me if they wanted to do the same with PS5. Also you still have games like the last of us 2 that they still want to push before going all in on next gen.
 

Snakeeee

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They reveal is a huge part of PS4 success. After seeing what Microsoft did first they were able to react to it. It wouldn't shock me if they wanted to do the same with PS5. Also you still have games like the last of us 2 that they still want to push before going all in on next gen.
The ps4 was revealed first.
 

SlipperyMoose

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So unless they are ok with selling at a loss and making it up on software and services it looks like a 499 generation to start out with
 

60fps

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It should be considered a one time investment for the next >5 years, so I don’t care about the price anymore, I just hope they put out a beefy and durable piece of hardware with outstanding build quality (that goes for the controller as well).

There is nothing worse than a brand new and exciting 400-500 €/$ device that fails after two years due to cheaply made components.