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Bloomberg: PlayStation 5's Bill of Materials have been pushed up to $450 due to scarce NAND and DRAM components
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Especially with MS presumably dropping cash hand over fist on Game Pass, i really dont see them in a rush to release another revenue pit for their gaming division
I have a question that I'm hopeing someone could answer.
Does it sound right that the cooling system on ps4 /ps4 pro would cost less then a dollar?
I know it's far from a great solution but less then a dollar makes it seem just so silly that they wouldn't bump it up another dollar or so and have potentially a much better cooling system like the report apparently suggests.
Does it sound right that the cooling system on ps4 /ps4 pro would cost less then a dollar?
I know it's far from a great solution but less then a dollar makes it seem just so silly that they wouldn't bump it up another dollar or so and have potentially a much better cooling system like the report apparently suggests.
That's a reference to changes Sony apparently made to their mirrorless camera lineup. Not related to the game business.
"Fund it as much as they need to" Does not imply going above set budgets. It implies that the set budget could be robust.
Clear?
I wonder what price Lockhart will come at. At first i thought it would come in at 299$ but with this report I'm not too sure now.
$1 multiplied by over a 100 million systems isn't really small change.
Yeah I am aware but when you have ps4s sounding like they are getting ready to take off you think an extra dollar towards your costs would be a no brainer. That is ofcourse if it only really costs less then a dollar for the cooling system to begin with.
Both top end consoles are going to be $500 (Possibly MS being even higher if they also have a cheaper option). The $400 dream isn't going to happen.
No, people will moan and buy it anyway. They have no right to if the parts mean a significant increase in performance. We have head of large 3rd party publishers saying this is a much bigger boost in comparison to the current gen from the previous one.
Remember this intereview, which may have relevance on the whole warchest/how invested they are in next gen..
My takeaway is that it's more likely than not they'll continue to make big investments in Xbox this gen.
Xbox head Phil Spencer told Microsoft to go 'all-in' on gaming when brand was threatened
You learn something new every day.www.windowscentral.com
There was a time that Nadella was questioning what the future of the Xbox brand would be after the Xbox One reveal. Spencer told Nadella that the company needed to go "all-in" on gaming and the rest is history. What followed was the acquisition of Minecraft, the Xbox One X, and countless studio acquisitions. You can read the passage that outlines what Spencer had to do below.
A few months later, Spencer took over as head of Xbox. Whatever jubilation he felt was short-lived; a few weeks into the job, he got a call from Satya Nadella... 'I don't actually know a whole lot about why we're in gaming,' Nadella told him... Many developers who had worked on the Xbox One felt let down by Microsoft's big vision; it was, as some told Spencer, not in line with 'the soul' of what Xbox was. 'Satya was transparent that there could be a future where gaming isn't a business that Microsoft should be in,' Spencer told me... He looked at where Xbox had failed, and how the brand could be saved — if at all. When he finally called Nadella back, it was to say this: 'If we're going to stay in the gaming space, then let's make sure we're all-in. The last thing I wanted to do was run the gaming organization here as kind of an afterthought of the company and kind of half-in, half-out. Let's go fix who we are.'
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He pushed Nadella to acquire... Minecraft, for $2.5 billion — a move that gave Microsoft exclusive control over the most popular game in the world... Microsoft announced the game would continue to be available on all platforms, including those of its direct competitors. It was an unprecedented move for a publisher of Microsoft's size. 'One of the first calls we got after the Minecraft acquisition was from Sony saying, 'Are you going to pull it off PlayStation?',' Spencer said. 'And I'm like, 'Why would I do that? People like playing it on PlayStation.'
My takeaway is that it's more likely than not they'll continue to make big investments in Xbox this gen.
Launches are almost always about the enthusiasts. The next holiday is when the price sensitive folks matter more, and by then, I would suspect you'd see price cuts or value adds.
This will always sellout. The only thing that will make it not break sales records is if Sony doesn't have enough units for that. Simple.
If they were underpowered then not dramatically. I remember reading on some PC oriented site that PS4 is pretty good for it's price. Most importantly I remember being rather impressed by videos showing early games (KZ: Shadowfall,Driveclub, Ryse) just to name a few.
Launch shouldn't be affected however starting as soon as January you'll indeed see some effects.
I can't stress enough that great content (and exclusive content) is still the fastest way to transition.
I can see Sony pulling a $399 just because everyone seems to expect $499 now. They've done it in the past.
I honestly wish Sony would just sell a premium version at launch for us. If the baseline is going to be the same all gen, and Pro is just a "little upgrade" do it at launch or shortly after launch and charge $150 more for it.
Sony changing the price will depend on how long they think this spike will last .
If they think it will be only a few months i can see the easting the cost for a short while.
If they think it will be only a few months i can see the easting the cost for a short while.
according to google that's £344.99. So just about the price of a PS4 at launch here £350.
that's not too bad. say they add £100 on top of that and round it up to £450 then with 20% tax it'd be about £540. Let's just say £550. (not saying this is how they will calculate the price...jsut guessing)
£550 is fine for me if that's what it cost.
that's not too bad. say they add £100 on top of that and round it up to £450 then with 20% tax it'd be about £540. Let's just say £550. (not saying this is how they will calculate the price...jsut guessing)
£550 is fine for me if that's what it cost.
That's a good point. A lot of people were expecting the PS4 to launch at $449 or even $499.
Holiday? It will be sold out for a few months no matter what it costs.
This thread is full of experts, and I for one, am here for all of this expert analysis.
What if Sony decides to release it at $399, $449 AND $499 all at the same time?
Huh? Then what!?
What if Sony decides to release it at $399, $449 AND $499 all at the same time?
Huh? Then what!?
It's a 1X with upgrades CPU, an SSD and way more RAM. Plus, third-party next-gen exclusives will all be playable only on XSS, and any graphical upgrades should be present on the XSS.
Look at GTAV for example. That was cross-gen, but way better looking and was 60 FPS on PS4/XB1 (well, I think there were dips on XB1?). XSS should be delivering that "next-gen" experience, just at a lower target resolution, which should be totally different from the XB1S experience.
That said, the messaging is going to be tricky. How do you promote the XSX by screaming "4K!" without making XSS' 1080p target seem shitty? I think the danger is less that XB1S will be a better value proposition, and more that it will be perceived that way. Likely they'll lean heavily on the load-time aspect and RT, etc.
But like I said, this approach is endlessly fascinating. I'm excited to see how it plays out.
Also, I'm wondering how both MS and SOny are going to promote new consoles considering both are launching this Holidays. (I think they will have same price)
I imagine Microsoft promoting Xbox X Series very attached to the GamePass, what do you think Sony is going to react?
I imagine Microsoft promoting Xbox X Series very attached to the GamePass, what do you think Sony is going to react?
Yeah corona virus can potentially really mess things up for both MS and Sony this year.
It was $381 at launch and they were taking a loss selling at $399.
PS4 costs $381 to make, according to hardware teardown
The PlayStation 4 costs $381 for Sony to build, $18 under its retail price of $399. The figure comes from a hardware teardown by research firm IHS that included the bill of materials, which amounts to $372, as well as per-unit cost of assembly in the assessment. The teardown notes that the...www.engadget.com
Cool. $381 = ~$430 today.
So if PS5 materials are $450, I'm cool with that. Hopefully its a beast of a machine.
You mean like every other launch of a new system? History has shown that new hardware sells at launch higher than old hardware. It will be fine.
I've given up the $399 dream. Hoping it lands at $450, but already got $550 saved up ($500 + LA sales tax).
If the box is BC (and it better be), I'm not even worried about launch titles.
If the box is BC (and it better be), I'm not even worried about launch titles.
The article said that Sony usually finalizes prices in February, and then starts mass production in the spring.
If that's true, and they're really just a month or two away from starting mass production, then I am extremely surprised that detailed specs of the console haven't already leaked out.
If that's true, and they're really just a month or two away from starting mass production, then I am extremely surprised that detailed specs of the console haven't already leaked out.
