Thats actually one of my biggest issue with the sequel trilogy.They have no chemistry. The original trio bounced off of one another really nicely. The sequel trilogy just keeps its main cast separated or only interacting with one member of the trio.
It fucking blew my mind that Rey and Poe just met at the end of TLJ. Like not even a "hey, I'll take care of our comatose buddy Finn while you go off and find Luke" at the end of TFA.Thats actually one of my biggest issue with the sequel trilogy.
The characters are just too disconnected
Rey really needed stuff like
or the Snowspeeder sequence before going lone jedi.
Finn and Poe had awesome chemistry but immediately get separated
Ackbar gets killed as an afterthought instead of him making the sacrifice and retaining Holdo to develop further later.
the movies are pretty universally (outside of Solo) seen as high quality films in addition to making money.Lucasfilm/Disney is doing everything poorly except having the movies make money and even then they had the Solo disaster.
the movies are pretty universally (outside of Solo) seen as high quality films in addition to making money.
Outside of solo (which didn't get bad reviews, just decent) they are all critically acclaimed. Glowing in the cases of TFA and TLJ.
The fact that TFA and TLJ are seen as very good films by the vast majority of the audience of them is an important element to not overlook here.
Most blockbuster movies would die to have as positive of an audience reception as TFA and TLJ both got.
this is actually a good pointThe sequel trilogy just keeps its main cast separated or only interacting with one member of the trio.
This thread isn't saying "no one went to see or likes the new Star Wars." It's saying "kids don't care that much."Man if you showed me this thread 5 years ago I would have though the ST films were bombs that were universally disliked rather then high grossing/high RT movies that people seemingly like
*shrug*
So make critically acclaimed movies...like you know The Last Jedi?
Thats it, critical acclaim. Thats what the kids love.So make critically acclaimed movies...like you know The Last Jedi?
I mean... opinions change with time and perspective. A lot of people still do love them, but seeing the way the tide has begun to ebb away at Star Wars lately reminds me of how people were very positive on Dragon Age Inquisition initially, but it's now widely regarded as far more flawed and underwhelming, especially as other similar games in the genre came out and surpassed it.Man if you showed me this thread 5 years ago I would have though the ST films were bombs that were universally disliked rather then high grossing/high RT movies that people seemingly like
*shrug*
Thread title says that. But the posts in here do not.This thread isn't saying "no one went to see or likes the new Star Wars." It's saying "kids don't care that much."
Audiences seemed to love it too. Highest grossing movie of 2017. Top selling Blu-ray of 2018 (beating both infinity war and black panther).
It's definitely turned into the formerThis thread isn't saying "no one went to see or likes the new Star Wars." It's saying "kids don't care that much."
Ahh so close the topic then. People love star wars. Kids too.Audiences seemed to love it too. Highest grossing movie of 2017. Top selling Blu-ray of 2018 (beating both infinity war and black panther).
If anything the reception to TLJ is more positive now than it was December 2017 I would argue though. It seems people grow to like TLJ more as time goes by. More so with TLJ than with TFA in my experience.I mean... opinions change with time and perspective. A lot of people still do love them, but seeing the way the tide has begun to ebb away at Star Wars lately reminds me of how people were very positive on Dragon Age Inquisition initially, but it's now widely regarded as far more flawed and underwhelming, especially as other similar games in the genre came out and surpassed it.
As an example, look at the history of the reviews for The Phantom Menace. It's kinda of crazy to scroll to the earliest reviews and see that most of them are actually positive.
Episode 1 reviews
As you see critics weigh in over time over the many years, the positive reviews become less frequent. Time and perspective changed things, just as time and perspective will change the perception of TFA and TLJ.
"But that doesn't square with the success of Marvel, which reliably churns out a blockbuster every four to six months. "
Star Wars isn't Marvel. Marvel can flirt with different main genres, different main themes, different main aesthetics. Star Wars will always be sci-fi, will always have similar aesthetics.... The article writer is kind of reaching here.
no everyone hates BB-8.Outside of Rey and Kylo, does anyone like any of the new characters? I'd say that's the biggest problem right there.
We'll see. I'm the opposite. The more I think about the movie, the more plot holes, contrivances, and weird nonsense I come across that I otherwise overlooked or enjoyed beforehand.If anything the reception to TLJ is more positive now than it was December 2017 I would argue though. It seems people grow to like TLJ more as time goes by. More so with TLJ than with TFA in my experience.
Thats actually one of my biggest issue with the sequel trilogy.
The characters are just too disconnected
Rey really needed stuff like
or the Snowspeeder sequence before going lone jedi.
Finn and Poe had awesome chemistry but immediately get separated
Ackbar gets killed as an afterthought instead of him making the sacrifice and retaining Holdo to develop further later.
Action figure sales in particular have been in the toilet pretty much across the board. It's becoming a toy line increasingly only bought by aging collectors.Also I'm not entirely familiar with how toy sales are in general. Do Marvel toys do well for example?
Action figure sales in particular have been in the toilet pretty much across the board. It's becoming a toy line increasingly only bought by aging collectors.
Nice, going with sexist slurs. Real cool.I'm a passive fan of star wars and I think the new trilogy is kind of bullshit. Rey is such a Mary Sue,
What, you mean kids aren't lining up for the hot new Poe Dameron figures?Action figure sales in particular have been in the toilet pretty much across the board. It's becoming a toy line increasingly only bought by aging collectors.
Nice, going with sexist slurs. Real cool.
I am sure all the young girls who look up to Rey appreciate you using sexist terminology against her.
Damn, Poe's seen some real shit.What, you mean kids aren't lining up for the hot new Poe Dameron figures?
I prefer the newer films over the prequel trilogy, but I'd be lying if I said those movies weren't at least far superior when it came to aliens and character designs.
Say what you will about the new movies, but they're clearly not made to sell toysI prefer the newer films over the prequel trilogy, but I'd be lying if I said those movies weren't at least far superior when it came to aliens and character designs.
Mary Sue is an extremely sexist and offensive term and belittling of women across the board.Mary Sue is not a sexist slur. I don't know how you came to even think that.
Regardless, my main point is that I'm extremely disappointed in Rey as a main protagonist in general. I WANT her to be better than what they put in the movies.