Boeing's Starliner Spacecraft, Faces New Safety Concerns
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Iirc, Boeing basically outsourced everything these days, and has to invest a lot of time in fixing the resulting engineering issues.
Need to bring back the engineers that used to be at the top and fire the MBAs. Ivy league business ratfucks destroy everything they touch.
This all began when they moved their headquarters to Chicago. They lost a lot of people that knew what they were doing.
This.The most important things in the world should be entrusted to engineers and scientists only (or business people who were initially engineers or scientists).
I think we could safely say it would get you almost to the grocery store, explode and eject you into the air and the parachute would open after you've crashed into the ground.
Boeing's botched Starliner test flirted with 'catastrophic' failure: NASA panel
Boeing narrowly missed a "catastrophic failure" during its December flight test of an unmanned space taxi that was cut short by an unrelated problem, a NASA safety review panel said Thursday, recommending that the agency examine Boeing's software verification process before...
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NASA still must decide whether to make Boeing repeat the unmanned docking test before spacecraft can carry astronauts. Boeing recorded a $410 million charge last month to cover that possibility.
“The panel has a larger concern with the rigor of Boeing’s verification processes,” said Hill, a former NASA flight director who now serves on the panel that advises NASA on safety issues. Speaking during the panel’s quarterly meeting on Thursday, Hill said the agency should go beyond merely correcting the cause of the anomalies and scrutinize Boeing’s entire software testing processes.
“We are already working on many of the recommended fixes including re-verifying flight software code,” Boeing said in a statement, adding that it believes its engineers have found the cause of one of the software issues and have recommended to NASA corrective actions.
That feeling when you become an astronaut to only find out the only option you got is via Boeing
NASA flight agents: "Looks like you're departing on the Starliner." Astronauts- "Nah, I'm good."
Yeah NASA needs to come down on Boeing as hard as they have with SpaceX regarding retests etc. Boeing clearly can no longer rest on its past success and needs to be held to the same standards as start ups and fresh blood in the industry. Frankly every company should be held to the same standard regardless of how long they have been around. Space travel and Rockets are not games to play with
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Luckily there is SpaceX which successful performed both of its test.
What's SpaceX timeline for astronauts in relation to Boeing
Spacex is pretty much set to launch astronauts after their most recent test was a success. So sometime this year they'll probably launch astronauts
If there is one field of business where you do not want to cut corners, its aircraft.
and gas ovens.
Cost cutting is not their only priority. They also want to milk cost plus contracts! (See the SLS cost overruns)
Boeing acknowledged Friday that its procedures for testing the Starliner spacecraft’s systems ahead of its marred maiden flight in December were seriously flawed and that it now plans to revamp them as it scrambles to reassure NASA that one of its longest and most trusted contractors is up to the task of flying astronauts into space.
In the most comprehensive comments to date on what went wrong during Boeing’s test mission — an autonomous flight without astronauts — to the International Space Station, John Mulholland, the manager of Boeing’s Starliner program, said the company had cut short a key test of the craft’s software, failed to test a critical system against crucial hardware, and instead used a flawed computer system to conduct the test.
It was a stunning admission from the world’s largest aerospace company, which has been beset with questions about the software aboard its 737 Max aircraft. That software is being blamed for two fatal crashes that killed 346 people and led to the global grounding of the aircraft nearly a year ago.
Mulholland said that in addition to reviewing all 1 million lines of software code on the spacecraft, Boeing will revamp the way it tests its systems before they are put into service.
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Doug Loverro, NASA’s head of human spaceflight, said earlier this month that Boeing’s problems were a “fundamental” and widespread “breakdown of the software process.”
“We don’t know how many software errors we have — if we have just two or many hundreds,” he said.
He said the company needed to make its testing procedures more robust. And in a blog post, NASA said “there were numerous instances where the Boeing software quality processes either should have or could have uncovered the defects.” It added that the problems could have had serious consequences and “led to spacecraft loss.”
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Boeing seems to have a problem with competition. They can't beat them, so they just... Rush and hope no one notices until after they win the contracts?
What the fuck. Did the think this is battlefield 4? You can’t just patch it after the launch. Or fix some vfx just before the release like Cats . It’s a god damn space ship. How do they keep fucking up this bad?
They are relying on their political support in congress to get them the contracts. And it is working - not only do they get chosen as the "reliable traditional choice", but they get paid more for it! ($90 million per seat for Boeing vs $55 million per seat for SpaceX)
