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Bojack Horseman Season 5 |OT| A Sensational Season of Television
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The creator of the show was recently on NPR and discussed is misgivings about casting Diane early in the shows production.
His explanation made me think that Diane will be around until the end of the show. It sounds like he actively has plans to grow her as a character from beyond what she currently is.
Man every season I think bojack has lost its touch, leaned too much into comedy, the show proves me wrong and drops the hammer.
Best netflix thing 5 seasons running got damn
Best netflix thing 5 seasons running got damn
Yeah! I mean, they even killed off that precious cinnamon roll,
Henry Fondle
i don't think bojack is going to get "redeemed", but it's never too late to become a better person than you've been, imo, which is really more what the show is about
Did anyone else think Pickles was going to die when she said she would watch Philburt for Mr. Peanut Butter, "even if it kills me?" Or Princess Carolyn taking a picture of her credit card in the episode about her past? I can't help but feel these were both foreshadowing for something, albeit not as strongly as the
Theory.
I don't know if I'm ready for that Theory to come true, but I'm already in this deep! So...
"Diane dies on the car ride back from dropping Bojack off at rehab, & Bojack's major arc after discharge is based around the fact that no one contacted him about it because they did not want to impact his D&A treatment"
I don't know if I'm ready for that Theory to come true, but I'm already in this deep! So...
A show on NPR did a 30 minute interview with the creator of Bojack Horseman today:
https://the1a.org/shows/2018-10-11/bojack-horseman
Kinda weird to hear a serious, everyday NPR show give so much airtime to this show, but I'm glad I caught it.
https://the1a.org/shows/2018-10-11/bojack-horseman
Kinda weird to hear a serious, everyday NPR show give so much airtime to this show, but I'm glad I caught it.
Fuckin' Bojack and the dementia story with his mother last season hit close to home and then that funeral episode this season, watched just a few days before I watched my grand mother pass away Tuesday morning... Fuck.
I don't think this season was as good as 4. The dementia episode and underwater episodes are hard to beat.
I do like that there are long lasting consequences for the New Mexico thing, and Sarah Lin, and well everything.
I do like that there are long lasting consequences for the New Mexico thing, and Sarah Lin, and well everything.
What an outstanding season. It's amazing what this show does with Meta commentary and how it folds in itself. How they are basically telling the audience at one point: Bojack is not a character that is there to make you feel better about your own shitty behaviour!
It's all really introspective and while I don't know anything about the writers, I could imagine that they are putting themselves in there quite a lot and are telling from personal experience.
Best moment: "Please use 'I' sentences" - "Ayeayeaye, you ate my string chease!"
I was a tiny bit disappointed at the beginning, because it didn't really incorporate how the last one ended, but the way they brought stuff back and digged into everything they did before is simply outstanding. I'm really excited for the next season
It's all really introspective and while I don't know anything about the writers, I could imagine that they are putting themselves in there quite a lot and are telling from personal experience.
They alluded to Bojack becoming Philbert from episode one and dialed it up step by step with him not ever getting out of costume, suddenly having dark, brooding monologues etc.
The way Bojack seemed like himself in crucial moments talking to someone slightly distracted with their own live when he was really breaking apart and could hardly comprehend what was happening felt pretty true.
And the Henry Fondle arc was just amazing!
The way Bojack seemed like himself in crucial moments talking to someone slightly distracted with their own live when he was really breaking apart and could hardly comprehend what was happening felt pretty true.
And the Henry Fondle arc was just amazing!
Best moment: "Please use 'I' sentences" - "Ayeayeaye, you ate my string chease!"
I was a tiny bit disappointed at the beginning, because it didn't really incorporate how the last one ended, but the way they brought stuff back and digged into everything they did before is simply outstanding. I'm really excited for the next season
but I hope we've reached the turning point where he gets better or destroys himself. This can't continue for another few seasons and Bojack has been deconstructed enough.
Man, this season was so much better than Season 4!
The Eulogy episode was easily one of the best episodes of the series.
It's great for the show to finally be back to form after Season 3 and Season 4 largely disappointed me with the walking in place. This is the first time the series has really lifted itself (and Bojack's narrative in any meaningful way that's not absolutely redundant) since Season 2.
The Eulogy episode was easily one of the best episodes of the series.
It's great for the show to finally be back to form after Season 3 and Season 4 largely disappointed me with the walking in place. This is the first time the series has really lifted itself (and Bojack's narrative in any meaningful way that's not absolutely redundant) since Season 2.
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I mean some of the parental abuse shown was pretty serious. But yeah, it sticks out.
While it's great to have the whole show available at once, one thing I miss here in comparison to other shows is that we don't have our weekly discussions on each episode.
Can you remind me?
Can you remind me?
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Just imagery & symbolism, but in retrospect, it seems pretty heavy-handed.
so
I just caught up with this thing in a week because I was feeling shitty about myself
so the last episode was very topical
anyways, this show was fucking incredible and I find the way they kept spinning everything, especially in seasons 3 and 5, soul-crushing in many ways.
glad to hear there'll be a season 6.
edit: I got the "they're framing this like diane dies" vibe as well at the end of s5 as well, but I think that'd be going down too far that road... This show's gotten outlandish only for comedy/criticism IMO, I feel killing off Diane would be out of character.
Wasn't expecting Mr. PB to cheat on Pickles though. Goddamn.
I just caught up with this thing in a week because I was feeling shitty about myself
so the last episode was very topical
anyways, this show was fucking incredible and I find the way they kept spinning everything, especially in seasons 3 and 5, soul-crushing in many ways.
glad to hear there'll be a season 6.
edit: I got the "they're framing this like diane dies" vibe as well at the end of s5 as well, but I think that'd be going down too far that road... This show's gotten outlandish only for comedy/criticism IMO, I feel killing off Diane would be out of character.
Wasn't expecting Mr. PB to cheat on Pickles though. Goddamn.
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Would it be though? The show didn't shy away from killing kazzaz or Sarah , or bojack mom, i see no reason for saying that killing diana now would be "out of character", if anything it would be totally normal for this show to do something like that , although I don't think they will do it now anyway.
As for the last part about Mr.PB... I don't remember that? And I don't remember reading reactions of it, so it's weird
It's because the other things all had reasons and build-up; Herb already had cancer, Sarah Lynn was already neck-deep in substance abuse, and beatrice horseman was senile for years.
Diane just going plop on the way back from dropping BoJack off at rehab would run against the show's sincere and earnest tone with regards to serious stuff about its characters.
Also, Mr PB cheats on Pickles, he sleeps with Diane twice, it happens in the latter parts of Season 5 IIRC
That does happen though...people do earnestly and sincerely just go 'plop' one day, rather it's an unfortunate accident, homicide, whatever it may be. And then people(or characters, in this case) have to deal with what they could have said, the last time they saw them, their own unguaranteeable mortality, etc..
Not necessarily throwing my hat in any particular ring, but if they went that route I think they could do it in a way that feels authentic to the show.
What conciliator said, accidents happen, in fact even herb died from an accident and not from his illness, making it so it happens to a main character who has relations to so many people in this show would make it powerful and impactful, and it's not like she didn't have some kind of closure in the 5th season already even if it is a sad one, going to Vietnam to find herself but fails , going to Mr PB one last time and wondering why they didn't last together, having a heartful discussion with bojack and even helping him one last time to treat himself for good and go to therapy , all kind of death flags that can lead to her death naturally.
Not that I believe it will happen necessarily, but it won't surprise me if they did and it would be a good angle to tackle in 6th season , and I trust this show to handle this matter sincerely.
And yeah forgot about diana thing, thought it was a 3rd character
It's been a long time since the start of this season. I tried to watch the season in a long, long process, because waiting for new season of this show is too damn hard, and I think I did a good job.
I just watched the last episode. It's was one of the best season of the show, if not the best. Man I love everything about this show. I thought the wait for next season couldn't be more difficult when I saw the ending credits rolling on the screen, until I saw this theory about Diane:
And does anybody know the name of that paino song in the background of "Todd destroying the sex machine" scene? It's so good.
I just watched the last episode. It's was one of the best season of the show, if not the best. Man I love everything about this show. I thought the wait for next season couldn't be more difficult when I saw the ending credits rolling on the screen, until I saw this theory about Diane:
"Diane might be dead because Princess Diana died in a car crash in the Pont de l'Alma road tunnel and at the end of this episode Diane drives into a tunnel."
It's going to happen. It just makes sense. I hate the writers of this show. This is both sad and genius at the same time.
It's going to happen. It just makes sense. I hate the writers of this show. This is both sad and genius at the same time.
And does anybody know the name of that paino song in the background of "Todd destroying the sex machine" scene? It's so good.
Eh... if there's news on s6 expect a thread. I'm happy this isn't a lttp thread honestly.
Excuse me, what the fuck did you expect to read in this thread?
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Better posts than this one, that's for sure.
Though of course worth mentioning there's a few crevices with that.
For anyone out of the know-how who might peek at this thread, it is confirmed Season 6 is is the final season of Bojack and next week only the first half of the season airs (8 episodes). as the final season is a two-parter and three episodes longer than all the other seasons. The other 8 episodes will air next January and conclude the series.
I'm glad it's only 8 episodes because I now fully hate the binge model and the fewer episodes the better š¤
All right, who is making the OT for this one? Just a day away, I'm totally not ready. Reviews are already stellar, one of the best shows of all time, I will miss it dearly. Glad it's 16 episodes, a lot of closure coming (though maybe not for Bojack himself)