Boogie2988 invited to the Game Awards (famous champion of 'both sides' in regards to white supremacy)

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Syder

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Between the GG gaf stuff and Anita he also defended Jon Tron by posting a video the day after Jon said "we shouldn't mix the gene pools" by saying he was being attacked for having a different opinion and "trying on a new hat, politically" and that we should all talk and meet in the middle.

When people called boogie out about the severity of Jon's comments he quickly followed up with another video saying he hadn't actually watched Jon's video and didn't agree with those comments. So he had time to read the outrage, think up a video, film, edit and upload it but not actually watch what the subject he was commenting about.

That's why he is hated here but there is more.

He also started dating a sex worker after his wife left him and the new gf came out saying he would emotionally bully her into saying at his house and looking after him, wouldn't let her do her sex work (even though that's how he met her) and when she would ask for money to live (since he wasn't allowing her to work) he would give her the bare minimum and make her feel bad about it.

He also told someone he was thinking about killing himself so they called the police to check on him and he proceeded to make a video where he was furious about them doing it because it interrupted a date and how he wasn't really gonna kill himself, then said not yet anyway, and basically was a real piece of shit to the person who was simply worried about him.

On top of this, from watching his live streams it seems he has a deep hatred of women, coming out with some seriously questionable comments that you wouldn't see on his usual videos. Such as "people say the clitorus doesn't have a hole but they just aren't trying hard enough. All you need is one of these *pulls out a scalpel*.

There was also a severely suspect comment where he said he didn't want to have kids because he was like his parents and didn't want to do to them what they did to him. In case you aren't aware he was physically and sexually abused by them so it made it sound like he was admitting he had the same issues.

I was a big fan of boogie and looked up to him with regards to his struggles with his upbringing and weight issues but its clear he is a manipulative, angry piece of shit who deserves no sympathy.
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Boogie is fine. He's not perfect but on most cases he's on your side, Era. He has many of the same ideals as the hivemind here, he just disagrees on how to achieve those ideals.

Stop calling him a piece of shit for not wanting to blatantly vilify others (what you call "choosing a side"). All I see in this thread is bullying. He hasn't said a single thing that is actually racist or homophobic from all the examples I've seen, people here are just hating on him because he chooses not to hate others no matter what their opinions are and believes in working with people on a personal level over time rather than shouting at their faces forcing them to comply with his ideals.

Boogie believes in the human spirit and has empathy for the human condition. We could all learn from him.

Yet he viliffied Anita Sarkeesian by saying the Charlotesville incident was her fault. The one were a neonazi killed a young activist girl.

He also vilified a cosplayer that was harrassed by a sexist MtG player.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Boogie is fine. He's not perfect but on most cases he's on your side, Era. He has many of the same ideals as the hivemind here, he just disagrees on how to achieve those ideals.

Stop calling him a piece of shit for not wanting to blatantly vilify others (what you call "choosing a side"). All I see in this thread is bullying. He hasn't said a single thing that is actually racist or homophobic from all the examples I've seen, people here are just hating on him because he chooses not to hate others no matter what their opinions are and believes in working with people on a personal level over time rather than shouting at their faces forcing them to comply with his ideals.

Boogie believes in the human spirit and has empathy for the human condition. We could all learn from him.
He has a lot of empathy for “the human condition” but not for actual humans who have to deal with oppression.

Choosing “not to hate others” isn’t some path to a better world for everyone. It’s apathy. It’s not caring as long as it doesn’t affect you personally. He doesn’t “work with others on a personal level”. Dude isn’t doing outreach to bigots, he’s just welcoming them without question. He’s not making an effort to improve anything for anyone but himself. There’s nothing to admire about him.

This is, of course, ignoring all the garbage he has, in fact, said himself.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Boogie is fine. He's not perfect but on most cases he's on your side, Era. He has many of the same ideals as the hivemind here, he just disagrees on how to achieve those ideals.

Stop calling him a piece of shit for not wanting to blatantly vilify others (what you call "choosing a side"). All I see in this thread is bullying. He hasn't said a single thing that is actually racist or homophobic from all the examples I've seen, people here are just hating on him because he chooses not to hate others no matter what their opinions are and believes in working with people on a personal level over time rather than shouting at their faces forcing them to comply with his ideals.

Boogie believes in the human spirit and has empathy for the human condition. We could all learn from him.
Theses are all lies. You're a liar.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Boogie is fine. He's not perfect but on most cases he's on your side, Era. He has many of the same ideals as the hivemind here, he just disagrees on how to achieve those ideals.

Stop calling him a piece of shit for not wanting to blatantly vilify others (what you call "choosing a side"). All I see in this thread is bullying. He hasn't said a single thing that is actually racist or homophobic from all the examples I've seen, people here are just hating on him because he chooses not to hate others no matter what their opinions are and believes in working with people on a personal level over time rather than shouting at their faces forcing them to comply with his ideals.

Boogie believes in the human spirit and has empathy for the human condition. We could all learn from him.
He should stop speaking for the people he's an "ally" to and telling them how they should be achieving their goals, and instead shut up, listen to their experiences and use his platform to signal boost their message. Unless he doesn't give a shit about being an ally, in which case he should just do the first part.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Boogie has more actual influence and popularity than this entire forum. Unless he straight up posts some racist shit instead of hiding behind the both sides argument, Geoff would still want him to attend the show.
I mean that's what many of us are saying. This industry cares more about their influence than their views.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Boogie is fine. He's not perfect but on most cases he's on your side, Era. He has many of the same ideals as the hivemind here, he just disagrees on how to achieve those ideals.

Stop calling him a piece of shit for not wanting to blatantly vilify others (what you call "choosing a side"). All I see in this thread is bullying. He hasn't said a single thing that is actually racist or homophobic from all the examples I've seen, people here are just hating on him because he chooses not to hate others no matter what their opinions are and believes in working with people on a personal level over time rather than shouting at their faces forcing them to comply with his ideals.

Boogie believes in the human spirit and has empathy for the human condition. We could all learn from him.
The irony in this post....

Unless this is satire, in which case this is brilliant.
 
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Yet he viliffied Anita Sarkeesian by saying the Charlotesville incident was her fault. The one were a neonazi killed a young activist girl.

He also vilified a cosplayer that was harrassed by a sexist MtG player.
Again, not saying he's perfect, although I'm not super familiar with those cases you've mentioned. My main point was that he's not a piece of shit for the tweets I've seen quoted in the thread so far.
 
Oct 22, 2018
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Boogie is fine. He's not perfect but on most cases he's on your side, Era. He has many of the same ideals as the hivemind here, he just disagrees on how to achieve those ideals.

Stop calling him a piece of shit for not wanting to blatantly vilify others (what you call "choosing a side"). All I see in this thread is bullying. He hasn't said a single thing that is actually racist or homophobic from all the examples I've seen, people here are just hating on him because he chooses not to hate others no matter what their opinions are and believes in working with people on a personal level over time rather than shouting at their faces forcing them to comply with his ideals.

Boogie believes in the human spirit and has empathy for the human condition. We could all learn from him.
I want to pour acid on people who enable shits like Boogie. Clearly you disagree. Let's pour acid on only half their bodies. That should work out nicely for everyone.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Are you prepared for the "this doesn't sound like he's defending nazis" argument?
I can feel the pain. Already used to read "Jontron isn't racist, that was just bs" every now and then. But you know, apparently admit your fuck ups, reflect and apologizing is something really hard to do this days.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Boogie is fine. He's not perfect but on most cases he's on your side, Era. He has many of the same ideals as the hivemind here, he just disagrees on how to achieve those ideals.

Stop calling him a piece of shit for not wanting to blatantly vilify others (what you call "choosing a side"). All I see in this thread is bullying. He hasn't said a single thing that is actually racist or homophobic from all the examples I've seen, people here are just hating on him because he chooses not to hate others no matter what their opinions are and believes in working with people on a personal level over time rather than shouting at their faces forcing them to comply with his ideals.

Boogie believes in the human spirit and has empathy for the human condition. We could all learn from him.
😂😂😂😂
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Boogie is fine. He's not perfect but on most cases he's on your side, Era. He has many of the same ideals as the hivemind here, he just disagrees on how to achieve those ideals.

Stop calling him a piece of shit for not wanting to blatantly vilify others (what you call "choosing a side"). All I see in this thread is bullying. He hasn't said a single thing that is actually racist or homophobic from all the examples I've seen, people here are just hating on him because he chooses not to hate others no matter what their opinions are and believes in working with people on a personal level over time rather than shouting at their faces forcing them to comply with his ideals.

Boogie believes in the human spirit and has empathy for the human condition. We could all learn from him.
This is a fucking terrible post my god
 
Oct 27, 2017
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The dude is a shit stain. Not surprised though. I advise everyone to do what I'm going to do: Not waste 2 hours of your life on this garbage and just watch the trailers tomorrow on YouTube lol
 
Oct 28, 2017
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I don't agree with any of Boogies views and agree he has some seriously unhealthy behaviour, but are we really going to start blaming victims of child abuse for being damaged later in life?

Sounds like the dude needs to go to a therapist.

Shitty person with shitty behaviour that is that way because they were abused is a child isn't really that clean cut.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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If you're going to tell that story, you should clarify a bit. He claimed that the whole Gamergate issue was so upsetting that he just couldn't talk about it and it made him want to kill himself.

Then he spend the next few months or so defending Gamergaters and having discussions with him. Apparently it's much better for his mental health while he's siding with misogynists, funny that.
That was part of it, but in the thread itself when he made the direct suicide threats that resulted in his banning and the rule of silence on talking about him ,it was directly towards the thread being against Gamergate, he was demanding we be nice to them.
 

Git

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Boogie is fine. He's not perfect but on most cases he's on your side, Era. He has many of the same ideals as the hivemind here, he just disagrees on how to achieve those ideals.

Stop calling him a piece of shit for not wanting to blatantly vilify others (what you call "choosing a side"). All I see in this thread is bullying. He hasn't said a single thing that is actually racist or homophobic from all the examples I've seen, people here are just hating on him because he chooses not to hate others no matter what their opinions are and believes in working with people on a personal level over time rather than shouting at their faces forcing them to comply with his ideals.

Boogie believes in the human spirit and has empathy for the human condition. We could all learn from him.
He's a piece of shit.
 
Dec 5, 2017
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Yet he viliffied Anita Sarkeesian by saying the Charlotesville incident was her fault. The one were a neonazi killed a young activist girl.

He also vilified a cosplayer that was harrassed by a sexist MtG player.
If you really examined the context, it would become abundantly clear that he doesn’t believe Anita Sarkeesian literally caused the Charlottesville incident. Just that the incendiary attitude of some people further on the left is helping breed crazy reactionaries on the right. I think it’s a deeply flawed perspective, but I do think it has been shown that the far right and the far left are helping polarization accelerate.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Between the GG gaf stuff and Anita he also defended Jon Tron by posting a video the day after Jon said "we shouldn't mix the gene pools" by saying he was being attacked for having a different opinion and "trying on a new hat, politically" and that we should all talk and meet in the middle.

When people called boogie out about the severity of Jon's comments he quickly followed up with another video saying he hadn't actually watched Jon's video and didn't agree with those comments. So he had time to read the outrage, think up a video, film, edit and upload it but not actually watch what the subject he was commenting about.

That's why he is hated here but there is more.

He also started dating a sex worker after his wife left him and the new gf came out saying he would emotionally bully her into saying at his house and looking after him, wouldn't let her do her sex work (even though that's how he met her) and when she would ask for money to live (since he wasn't allowing her to work) he would give her the bare minimum and make her feel bad about it.

He also told someone he was thinking about killing himself so they called the police to check on him and he proceeded to make a video where he was furious about them doing it because it interrupted a date and how he wasn't really gonna kill himself, then said not yet anyway, and basically was a real piece of shit to the person who was simply worried about him.

On top of this, from watching his live streams it seems he has a deep hatred of women, coming out with some seriously questionable comments that you wouldn't see on his usual videos. Such as "people say the clitorus doesn't have a hole but they just aren't trying hard enough. All you need is one of these *pulls out a scalpel*.

There was also a severely suspect comment where he said he didn't want to have kids because he was like his parents and didn't want to do to them what they did to him. In case you aren't aware he was physically and sexually abused by them so it made it sound like he was admitting he had the same issues.

I was a big fan of boogie and looked up to him with regards to his struggles with his upbringing and weight issues but its clear he is a manipulative, angry piece of shit who deserves no sympathy.
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Oct 25, 2017
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Again, not saying he's perfect, although I'm not super familiar with those cases you've mentioned. My main point was that he's not a piece of shit for the tweets I've seen quoted in the thread so far.
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Between the GG gaf stuff and Anita he also defended Jon Tron by posting a video the day after Jon said "we shouldn't mix the gene pools" by saying he was being attacked for having a different opinion and "trying on a new hat, politically" and that we should all talk and meet in the middle.

When people called boogie out about the severity of Jon's comments he quickly followed up with another video saying he hadn't actually watched Jon's video and didn't agree with those comments. So he had time to read the outrage, think up a video, film, edit and upload it but not actually watch what the subject he was commenting about.

That's why he is hated here but there is more.

He also started dating a sex worker after his wife left him and the new gf came out saying he would emotionally bully her into saying at his house and looking after him, wouldn't let her do her sex work (even though that's how he met her) and when she would ask for money to live (since he wasn't allowing her to work) he would give her the bare minimum and make her feel bad about it.

He also told someone he was thinking about killing himself so they called the police to check on him and he proceeded to make a video where he was furious about them doing it because it interrupted a date and how he wasn't really gonna kill himself, then said not yet anyway, and basically was a real piece of shit to the person who was simply worried about him.

On top of this, from watching his live streams it seems he has a deep hatred of women, coming out with some seriously questionable comments that you wouldn't see on his usual videos. Such as "people say the clitorus doesn't have a hole but they just aren't trying hard enough. All you need is one of these *pulls out a scalpel*.

There was also a severely suspect comment where he said he didn't want to have kids because he was like his parents and didn't want to do to them what they did to him. In case you aren't aware he was physically and sexually abused by them so it made it sound like he was admitting he had the same issues.

I was a big fan of boogie and looked up to him with regards to his struggles with his upbringing and weight issues but its clear he is a manipulative, angry piece of shit who deserves no sympathy.
 

JDSN

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Oct 27, 2017
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Just watch the trailers when they upload it some where else, gaming is intimately linked to collaborators of white supremacists, Geoff knows he cant thrive without this people. He might have all the cool Hollywood guests, but Boogie is the one that will represent the true face of the game community.
 

Lump

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Oct 25, 2017
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He has a lot of empathy for “the human condition” but not for actual humans who have to deal with oppression.

Choosing “not to hate others” isn’t some path to a better world for everyone. It’s apathy. It’s not caring as long as it doesn’t affect you personally. He doesn’t “work with others on a personal level”. Dude isn’t doing outreach to bigots, he’s just welcoming them without question. He’s not making an effort to improve anything for anyone but himself. There’s nothing to admire about him.

This is, of course, ignoring all the garbage he has, in fact, said himself.
I wouldn’t even go so far to say he has even that degree of empathy.

The maddest I’ve ever seen Boogie get is when Trump threatened video games. Not for anything Trump said about minorities or immigrants or Charlottesville - threatening games was the line in the sand for Boogie. There’s no meeting in the middle when it comes to games - Boogie plays those.

 
Oct 28, 2017
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Please show me the first one, because I have strong suspicions that you’ve intentionally warped what he is saying.
It has been linked multiple times in this thread. He literally said that the gay community should have waited 5 more years to get the right to marry so as to not piss off the homophobes as much.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Again, not saying he's perfect, although I'm not super familiar with those cases you've mentioned. My main point was that he's not a piece of shit for the tweets I've seen quoted in the thread so far.
And the tweets were he says homosexuals earning the right to vote is the reason why they are murdered by Nazi's and that homosexuals "should have waited 5 years"? How about the ones where he says the Halocaust is good because we got Anne Frank's diary? Or the other dozens of examples of his shittery?
 
Oct 27, 2017
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That's the "Boogie Cycle" say something incomprehensibly stupid and then show remorse and repeat
Yeah, last time I saw him saying something decent was IIRC when he said he planned on opening a new game? store which he was going to make sure which inclusive to the LGBTQ community as one of the top priorities/objectives of the location... I think later that day I think I saw this pop up:



I don't know whats up with the guy. He seems to flop around the middle and then side mostly to one side and then gravitate a bit the other... most of the stuff obviously very contradictory, must be confusing keeping up with himself.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Again, not saying he's perfect, although I'm not super familiar with those cases you've mentioned. My main point was that he's not a piece of shit for the tweets I've seen quoted in the thread so far.
He literally said the Holocaust wasnt all that bad. Are you fucking kidding me?



"It wasnt that bad!"

He also said in response that "blacks are dilluting the gene pool" that you need to listen that and meet in the middle.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Boogie has more actual influence and popularity than this entire forum. Unless he straight up posts some racist shit instead of hiding behind the both sides argument, Geoff would still want him to attend the show.
Yeah this what it comes down to. There isn't any significant net negative for him to not be shut out when the wider public either still likes him, doesn't care, or is just ignorant about him. You really don't see pariahs from these kinds of events in any industry unless it's a huge public image issue or they got blacklisted by pissing off some higher up.
 
Nov 4, 2017
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Again, not saying he's perfect, although I'm not super familiar with those cases you've mentioned. My main point was that he's not a piece of shit for the tweets I've seen quoted in the thread so far.
Then you haven't been actually reading the stuff posted in the thread so far, as those have been posted. Also your "I don't actually know a bout those awful things he's done, so I'll not actually research it and just tell everyone he's a good guy" is hilarious. If you don't actually know anything about what he's done, why do you leap to defend him?
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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Boogie is fine. He's not perfect but on most cases he's on your side, Era. He has many of the same ideals as the hivemind here, he just disagrees on how to achieve those ideals.

Stop calling him a piece of shit for not wanting to blatantly vilify others (what you call "choosing a side"). All I see in this thread is bullying. He hasn't said a single thing that is actually racist or homophobic from all the examples I've seen, people here are just hating on him because he chooses not to hate others no matter what their opinions are and believes in working with people on a personal level over time rather than shouting at their faces forcing them to comply with his ideals.

Boogie believes in the human spirit and has empathy for the human condition. We could all learn from him.
If he's going to apologize for white supremacists, he's so fucking far from "my side." You don't get to downplay the harassment targeted towards marginalized groups, say they can be "just as bad" as the Nazis who killed woman at a rally, and think I would ever break bread with you.

Fuck. That.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Boogie is fine. He's not perfect but on most cases he's on your side, Era. He has many of the same ideals as the hivemind here, he just disagrees on how to achieve those ideals.

Stop calling him a piece of shit for not wanting to blatantly vilify others (what you call "choosing a side"). All I see in this thread is bullying. He hasn't said a single thing that is actually racist or homophobic from all the examples I've seen, people here are just hating on him because he chooses not to hate others no matter what their opinions are and believes in working with people on a personal level over time rather than shouting at their faces forcing them to comply with his ideals.

Boogie believes in the human spirit and has empathy for the human condition. We could all learn from him.
You're just another low post count fuck who uses terms like "hivemind" and come out of the woodwork to defend bigots.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Again, not saying he's perfect, although I'm not super familiar with those cases you've mentioned. My main point was that he's not a piece of shit for the tweets I've seen quoted in the thread so far.
There's a big and long gap from "not being perfect" (no one is) to saying neonazis killing women is a feminist fault. And when you add all the other stuff like asking to understand white supremacists, saying same sex marriage should have waited more so bigots dont get angry, some good came from the holocaust.... the gap keeps getting bigger.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Again, not saying he's perfect, although I'm not super familiar with those cases you've mentioned. My main point was that he's not a piece of shit for the tweets I've seen quoted in the thread so far.
you're a piece of shit as well if you seen the tweet where he blames bigots getting violent on gay people getting rights too quickly and still don't think he's a piece of shit.

Also, what do you think "meeting in the middle" is when talking about someone that thinks black people are genetically inferior? What's the middle ground on that?
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Again, not saying he's perfect, although I'm not super familiar with those cases you've mentioned. My main point was that he's not a piece of shit for the tweets I've seen quoted in the thread so far.
News flash, boogie is a fucking asshat. You shouldn't come in here defending an asshat and then say "well, I don't know about the shit he's done... BUT HEEE'SS FINNNEEEE. I promise".
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I don't agree with any of Boogies views and agree he has some seriously unhealthy behaviour, but are we really going to start blaming victims of child abuse for being damaged later in life?

Sounds like the dude needs to go to a therapist.

Shitty person with shitty behaviour that is that way because they were abused is a child isn't really that clean cut.
Where have I victim blamed him for his upbringing?

He has been to therapy for years and still says this shit.

To try and ignore it all or excuse it because of his upbringing is terrible.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Just gonna quote myself from the Jaffe thread on why boogie shouldn't be seen as a good person.
Yet he viliffied Anita Sarkeesian by saying the Charlotesville incident was her fault. The one were a neonazi killed a young activist girl.

He also vilified a cosplayer that was harrassed by a sexist MtG player.
Khanimus you should probably threadmark these for people jumping in going "ooh, but what did he do?"

I mean it won't stop anyone, since most people jumping in to do that are doing disingenuously but still.
 

Syder

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't agree with any of Boogies views and agree he has some seriously unhealthy behaviour, but are we really going to start blaming victims of child abuse for being damaged later in life?

Sounds like the dude needs to go to a therapist.

Shitty person with shitty behaviour that is that way because they were abused is a child isn't really that clean cut.
Being a victim of sexual abuse doesn't make you a Nazi sympathiser.

There are plenty of people who go through the worst mental anguish and are great people.

...Boogie is not one of those people.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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"Boogie is fine"

Yeah, saying the Holocaust was actually good is fine.
Saying gays dont deserve equal right because it upsets white people is fine.
Saying games shouldnt be inclusive because it scares off bigots is fine.

Fuck Boogie.
Fuck Geoff for giving his racist white ass a platform.
Fuck anyone that defends him.
 
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