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Boogie2988 invited to the Game Awards (famous champion of 'both sides' in regards to white supremacy)

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Is it a possiblity that Geoff and the Game Awards crew know the full extent of Boogie's statements but because of his huge popularity and Twitch presence they are inviting him anyway? I'm guessing they didn't know or look that deeply into it. They saw his popularity and considered him a big draw for the casual crowd.
Geoff definitely knows. He is using his following for marketing purposes. hence the public 'see ya there!' tweet
 

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at least they should be running low on burner accounts by this point
Lol you would think so and then you get this:


Honestly I don't care who's invited to it, unless this piece of shit gets on stage of course. I only care about the announcements, developers, etc.

They honestly might not know about Boogie's political/personal beliefs to be fair, so i'm not going to bad mouth Geoff.
That post count eh? Have you read the thread?
 
Nov 7, 2017
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I honestly can't agree with that. I find it hard to believe you can be progressive and have "shitty morals". Your morals are what makes you progressive in the first place. If you purposefully choose to have someone who actively hurts the people you supposedly care for, then you're not progressive in the slightlest.
Being "progressive" doesn't absolve you of any shitty views, nor does it mean you are coherent in all spheres of your life.

We live in capitalism, progressives all participate in a shitty system that goes against some of their values every day.
 
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Read through the thread and educate yourself, first of all. Second, and I can't believe I'm saying this one again; yeah, I'm sure that women and minorities would LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE to just ignore people who wish them ill will and even death. I guess I should just turn off the TV whenever I see a Nazi like Trump on it, and that way the problem will just go away. I just need to ignore the content! it's so easy! Why would I not speak up against Nazis?

As an ally to the LGBTQ+, women and people of color, I can't just ignore this shit. Even though, as a white as fuck male, I easily good. I cannot in good faith do that. Sorry. I care more about my brothers and sisters than fucking video games. As much as I would love for them to be welcomed into this hobby as much as I am.

If you can read through this thread and still "like his content", then you need to do some soul searching.
Well said. I was “fence sitting” watching these awards tonight. Now I’ll just watch the trailers later. Fuck Boogie, Jaffe & whoever else co-signs hate of any form
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Why is he popular in the 1st place? Gamers keep giving him attention/following him etc
Because he initially burst onto the scene as a humble, bumbling larger sized man that gained a lot of empathy from the community. Turns out a LOT of people seem to only remember him from that initial public outing. He's long since revealed himself to be an awful human being. So whenever there are threads such as this, there are people who are ignorant to what he's become, fall into defending this image of what he was pretending to be, when in reality, they're accidentally defending a racist. It's at this point, people either go "Oh fuck, I didn't know that. Fuck this abhorrent mother fucker" OR double down because it turns out that they too are also dumb nazis and relate.

He also does a lot of faux apologies that people somehow keep falling for, and then fucks up "accidentally". Rinse and repeat.
 
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No, not always, I've seen a lot of bans for the most ridiculous reasons, I mean, there's is a reason of why almost all the internet thinks that this place is toxic and the reason is not always that they're nazis or alt right, hell, I'm from Chile and all the gaming circles I know barely tolerate this place.
There are plenty of other 'non-toxic' gaming sites which your 'gaming circle' buddies would probably find much more tolerable. There are some where you can even have lengthy, intellectual thought experiments about whether only red heads (not really talking about red heads) have the right to call other red heads 'ginger' (swap a couple of letters around) without getting banned. It's stimulating stuff.
 
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I'm not surprised. Geoff is a hack, plain and simple. He doesn't care about marginalized groups, all he cares about what will make him money. Fuck Geoff, fuck Boogie and fuck his three hour commercial disguised as a award show.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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The additional shit I'm learning about the guy is fucking eye opening, because I had no idea about any aspect of his personal backstory and his mocking his deceased ex. Seeing a storied history of him making terrible excuses for (and still doing it) the far right is one thing, but that Twitch clip displayed a total duplicitous sociopath when he's not wearing that carefully constructed veneer of respectability. Holy shit. Why would any reasonable person remain on friendly terms with this man?
 
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He was not being abused when he threatened to kill himself if we didn;t start being nicer to gamergaters dudes.

Just stop this nonsense.
No, again. I’m not saying it’s anything about gamergaters, or us needing to be nicer. I was pointing out the difference between the situations between average parents and Boogies life situation. There is nothing normal about his situation. But his political views are pretty typical milquetoast “moderate” views that probably most of our parents hold.

That being said. All of the other shit he has said, completely condemnable and abhorrent.

The dude sucks.
 
At first glance, seems like a nice enough guy. Harmless enough, spawned some funny memes in the past, and wants the industry to be taken seriously and grow. I think anyone with a passion for games would be drawn to him. No real stance politically, but just by taking in his nature, one would assume he wouldn't be alt-right. But with the fact that he's complicit in giving the spotlight to folks like Boogie time and time again, it's kind of a rude awakening to people who thought that about Geoff Keighley.

Not to say that his silence isn't deafening on the matter, it is, but it's easy for people who are simply out of the loop to think that someone as seemingly safe and harmless as Geoff comes off as one of the good guys.
Not excusing Geoff here but I find that being close friends with someone tends to make people have a blind spot to the awful shit they say in public. :/ Fuck Boogie, piece of garbage.
 
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Being "progressive" doesn't absolve you of any shitty views, nor does it mean you are coherent in all spheres of your life.

We live in capitalism, progressives all participate in a shitty system that goes against some of their values every day.
You can't really compare having to live in a capitalist society because you just can't get anything better with inviting a known bigot to your own damn shown that you yourself set up.
 

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yo this website was created in 2017
This website was made in 2017, dude...
More than year ago. It’s suspect if you have a low-post count and yet you signed up more than a year. Accounts with a low-post count are typically associated with disingenuous people.
27 pages? Nah I think i'll just read the first page bud.
It’s unlikely that Geoff doesn’t know about Boogie’s behavior.
 
Dec 23, 2017
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I don't understand how people can defend him. There are literally thousands of "online personalities" you could follow that don't have abhorrent and disgusting views. Why defend Boogie2988? Because he self admits that he says terrible things sometimes? I'm sorry but in my humble opinion thats not an excuse to spout nonsense and hate.
 
Nov 3, 2017
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Boogies has very fucked up views on women. Trust me when i say that whatever your guesses are, its ten times worse.

His defense of sex workers during the whole tax scandal was one of the most hypocritical, two-faced steaming pile of bullshit I've ever seen or heard. He's no ally, don't believe him.
And now I'm afraid to ask...
 
Nov 7, 2017
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You can't really compare having to live in a capitalist society because you just can't get anything better with inviting a known bigot to your own damn shown that you yourself set up.
As many people has said, he is a hack who seems to only care about getting numbers for his awards show. I was responding to someone scoffing at the notion anyone could believe Keighly was a "progressive".
 
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What a curious thread. Boogie is a notorious 'fence-sitter' but I've not seen any videos of his in which I've found him to be unpleasant to anyone. Could people just not watch his stuff if they don't like it? Personally, I rather like his content, though I haven't watched it all.
hey sofajockey, i used to hang out on the uBSN, so we've met. i'll assume you're posting in good faith:

boogie farmed out his sister's trauma for clicks, against her express wishes. he then proceeded to wish the man who abused her well. (there's evidence of this in the thread--i don't want to post it again, because it's potentially quite traumatising.)

boogie has expressed sympathies for white supremacists and claimed the holocaust had a silver lining

boogie supported gamergate

boogie laughed about his ex-girlfriend dying from lung cancer

there's a bunch more - just browse the thread - but i think this is probably enough to demonstrate why someone might take issue with boogie being invited to a major gaming event as a 'friend' of the organiser. it's not a matter of simply not liking him.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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yo this website was created in 2017
The point they were making is that their account is old but has only a few posts. This is not an uncommon thing, for people to have made an account early on just to have it, and then burn it on trolling/“just asking questions”/arguing whenever there’s controversy.

It’s not always a fair judgement, but in threads like these... there’s a lot of them.
 
Oct 29, 2017
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There’s nothing ‘both sides’ about boogie. He contstantly says a bunch of hateful stuff all on his own.

Crazy to think these are the kind of people the gaming industry is comfortable representing them. For many people the truth is Geoff and other people in the industry just don’t care about you at all. They will side with the harassers every time
 
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Let's hope he doesn't get on stage to give the viewers a history lesson. I've been looking up what he's done recently and in the time since GG blew up and there's some scandals about him saying some really misinformed and horrible stuff about Nazi Germany and the victims of it.

Like this here
 
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Not excusing Geoff here but I find that being close friends with someone tends to make people have a blind spot to the awful shit they say in public. :/ Fuck Boogie, piece of garbage.
I've ignored or overlooked shitty behavior from friends before. But you fucking bet if they said "some good came from the holocaust", I would shoot straight up in my seat and do a double take.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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That’s a shame. Dude has some of the worst views/takes on things. How he manages to still be a thing is beyond me.

I highly doubt Corey or Geoff have time to keep up with all that garbage. Still, it’s a pretty bad look. I remember people having a similar reaction when Brandon Jones went on that Moriarty thing.
 
Thank you, that's a much more helpful response than the less helpful vague mockery that serves as so-called discussion.

I don't particularly care for Boogie's "Francis" character as I find the 'joke' of that character rather strange and abrasive.
And the linked video in the OP in which he identifies Nazi scientists as a benefit of the Holocaust is a remarkably foolish thing to say.

I'll admit, this thread surprised me, so I'll try to keep an open mind on this as I watch future video's of Boogies and make up my mind up accordingly.

Thanks again for the helpful links.
 
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