Boogie2988 invited to the Game Awards (famous champion of 'both sides' in regards to white supremacy)

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I don't like the guy either but people ITT act like big personalities like Geoff are aware of every single thing that happens with every single person invited. Come the fuck on, stop judging people thinking that they are "actively supporting nazis" or shit like that. Is it that hard to realize they might not even know? It's not like all they do is use Twitter and browse Reddit / Resetera.
When Boogie was nominated for trending gamer, he was already a lousy person. Geoff, guaranteed, has received direct messages from people telling him the kind of person Boogie is after that occurred.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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This thread went from highlighting real issues to just shitting on all aspects of someone that clearly has mental issues from a traumatic childhood that I don't think anyone can imagine going through. Pretty disgusting imo.
This post is pretty offensive and disrespectful to the millions of people around the world who live with mental issues without becoming nazi apologists and bigots. 'No one can imagine'. Plenty of people suffered (and suffer) equal or worse and decided to be good people and not make the world a worse place. He actively shits on many of these people with his bigotry and hate.

Miss me with the pity party.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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That's what kills me about the fucking video game industry: the receipts are all right there staring at everyone in the face, yet we continue to allow these sacks of shit to flourish and peddle their bigoted views.
Don't worry. When the next black, or female, or trans person says anything remotely bad the rest of the gaming community will be there with pitchforks and a whole heap of new things to say.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I don't like the guy either but people ITT act like big personalities like Geoff are aware of every single thing that happens with every single person invited. Come the fuck on, stop judging people thinking that they are "actively supporting nazis" or shit like that. Is it that hard to realize they might not even know? It's not like all they do is use Twitter and browse Reddit / Resetera.
Bruh that shit is known. It's well known enough to have memes about it.
 
I was surprised by the size of his platform when GG blew up.

It's not like its hard to find people talking about video games. It's not some precious resource where we all just have to make due with whatever shit's out there.

That Anne Frank thing makes me want to puke. This is a guy gets paid to talk for a living, jesus. Anyway, it's pretty easy not to give that show oxygen--the trailers will be everywhere
 
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Sources for everything I said that haven't had sources yet in this thread-

Boogie admitting 14 days ago he hired someone just to spite people and make money off her.

https://clips.twitch.tv/EnjoyableInspiringPistachioAMPEnergy

(full thing- https://www.twitch.tv/videos/338266795?t=01h06m30s)

Boogie texting his ex-wife Dez the same time he was flaunting his new "friend" on YouTube and Twitter

Wait, what’s the story here? Did his ex-wife out him with this text?
 
Oct 28, 2017
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I actually meant Mike Mattei, I just got the two angry old media dudes confused. My understanding was that Rowlfe didn't know much about video games to start with while Mike Mattei does; Mattei is half of the empire and is involved with everything.

Although in this case I'll note that I'm genuinely not too familiar with this particularly territory, I've only been reading up on them a bit recently.
lol, I should have noticed - I'm up way too late. Yeah, that is pretty much right.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I don't think Geoff is incompetent.
It's not about being incompetent though. He's a very active entrepreneur, probably has thousands of things to worry about. Heck, I'm a peasant Systems Engineer working for a medium sized company and I have so much shit to do and remember that sometimes I wish I was just a kid again. Don't underestimate people's lack of availability and awareness to "Internet things". I'm pretty sure he's got a good answer for this if eventually asked.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Dude is a poster boy for why a lot of people who like games don't want to be called "gamers". All the way down to the neck beard and fake nice guy bullshit.

I think that's why most Boogie threads turn into a Boogie pinata. Not only an easy target, but one that should be taken down a notch or two.
 
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It's not about being incompetent though. He's a very active entrepreneur, probably has thousands of things to worry about. Heck, I'm a peasant Systems Engineer working for a medium sized company and I have so much shit to do and remember that sometimes I wish I was just a kid again. Don't underestimate people's lack of availability and awareness to "Internet things". I'm pretty sure he's got a good answer for this if eventually asked.
He had him on his e3 coverage this year dude. Geoff knows.

Geoff just does not fucking care.
 

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It's not about being incompetent though. He's a very active entrepreneur, probably has thousands of things to worry about. Heck, I'm a peasant Systems Engineer working for a medium sized company and I have so much shit to do and remember that sometimes I wish I was just a kid again. Don't underestimate people's lack of availability and awareness to "Internet things". I'm pretty sure he's got a good answer for this if eventually asked.
To repeat, Boogie was already known for his shitty behavior when he was nominated for Trending Gamer, so it's not as simple as avoiding it. They did not look into his behavior when making that decision, and presumably ignored a lot of criticism involved in that decision.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Gotta say this thread is a bit off the rails though... Seems like the point's been driven already and it should probably be locked.
Nah, thread should be stickied at the top for easy access the next time some doofus asks "what did boogie ever do?"
I'm going to propose a theory:

this thread would be a lot shorter if the bigot didn't have people caping for him.
Thread would also be a lot shorter if the bigot didn't have such a deep history of saying bigoted bullshit.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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He had him on his e3 coverage this year dude. Geoff knows.

Geoff just does not fucking care.
Boogie also has 4.5 million subscribers that don’t care as well. Geoff knows boogie is popular, they are basically saying, who cares if he says awful and says some shady shit he’s popular and we will just ignore that for our gain.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I mean, a lot of posters are saying they didn't know to what extent this guy was a piece of shit, so it is still had educatinal merit, no?
I don't mean any disrespect by this post, I'm not the most articulate individual but, no. The amount of obsession and energy in this thread comes off as some sort of shared psychotic disorder.(not that it is one, but that's what it looks like externally) I'm not saying boogie is a good person but the obsession in this thread over some rando with no real influence or significant power comes off as incredibly unhealthy and makes a large part of the community look unstable. It's kinda embarrassing. There are better constructive ways to educate others than the attempt that's been displayed in this thread. 🙁 Again, I don't mean this in a condecending or disrespectful tone. I hope my words are not interpreted in a negative manner and that hopefully you can understand where I am coming from and what I am trying to portray. If he was presenting then I'd be inclined to agree with the tone of this thread.
 
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I wasn't planning on seeing this anyway but hey, thanks for giving me another reason not to.

Also it gives me an excuse to post this I don't think anyone else has):
That same guy also played host to Peterson later. What is he, the hipster Dave Rubin?
 
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I don't mean any disrespect by this post, I'm not the most articulate individual but, no. The amount of obsession and energy in this thread comes off as some sort of shared psychotic disorder.(not that it is one, but that's what it looks like externally) I'm not saying boogie is a good person but the obsession in this thread over some rando with no real influence or significant power comes off as incredibly unhealthy and makes a large part of the community look unstable. It's kinda embarrassing. There are better constructive ways to educate others than the attempt that's been displayed in this thread. 🙁 Again, I don't mean this in a condecending or disrespectful tone. I hope my words are not interpreted in a negative manner and that hopefully you can understand where I am coming from and what I am trying to portray.
Yeah, you're coming across as inarticulate, disrespectful, lazy, and condescending. Read the thread.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I don't mean any disrespect by this post, I'm not the most articulate individual but, no. The amount of obsession and energy in this thread comes off as some sort of shared psychotic disorder.(not that it is one, but that's what it looks like externally) I'm not saying boogie is a good person but the obsession in this thread over some rando with no real influence or significant power comes off as incredibly unhealthy and makes a large part of the community look unstable. It's kinda embarrassing. There are better constructive ways to educate others than the attempt that's been displayed in this thread. 🙁 Again, I don't mean this in a condecending or disrespectful tone. I hope my words are not interpreted in a negative manner and that hopefully you can understand where I am coming from and what I am trying to portray.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I don't like the guy either but people ITT act like big personalities like Geoff are aware of every single thing that happens with every single person invited. Come the fuck on, stop judging people thinking that they are "actively supporting nazis" or shit like that. Is it that hard to realize they might not even know? It's not like all they do is use Twitter and browse Reddit / Resetera.
If he didn't know before, Geoff has surely been informed in response to these tweets. So presumably you now expect Geoff to denounce Boogie?
 
Jul 12, 2018
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This thread went from highlighting real issues to just shitting on all aspects of someone that clearly has mental issues from a traumatic childhood that I don't think anyone can imagine going through. Pretty disgusting imo.
I would suggest that maybe someone who is so fragile as a result of childhood trauma that they need a safe space from public scrutiny should consider not trying to make a living being an internet celebrity. No one is obligated to be a famous full-time YouTuber, and none of us are obligated to be politically correct.

Boogie is simultaneously one of the loudest, most obnoxious YouTube celebrities, and one of the stupidest. I'm not talking about his weird repulsive beliefs like how being a feminist who thinks video games should be more thoughtful is equivalent to being a nazi that is protesting to protest a monument to celebrity. I'm talking about the fact that he's one of the least coherent and articulate internet personalities in gaming or outside gaming. I have taught junior high and high school at various points, and wile 13 year olds are not very good at putting together a coherent point, they are more articulate than Boogie. I would be seriously surprised if he has ever read a book voluntarily. That his views are also odious is besides the point, although they are.

Moreover, his reputation for being "nice" is based on the mistaken impression that someone who cries and is soft must be kind. No, the opposite is true. Many of the people with the softest skins are the quickest to lash out. Boogie is unkind and behaves in a rude way.

So if you reach the conclusion that Boogie should retire because he's not in a mental health place to be exposed to the public, and I come to the conclusion that Boogie should retire because he's an asshole that makes the world a worse place, maybe we could meet in the middle. Wouldn't that be great?
 
Oct 26, 2017
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This is embarrassingly nonsensical.
Good retort!

Surely someone like you who spends a lot of time on forums defending the honor of sycophants who prefer airing dirty laundry about a dev and his former employer in a show that “celebrates developers” (rather than showcasing a game from an indie dev who could actually use exposure) won’t begrudge me for being embarrassing.

Enjoy your two hour Keighley infomercial.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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If he didn't know before, Geoff has surely been informed in response to these tweets. So presumably you now expect Geoff to denounce Boogie?
I certainly expect him to not be invited again - it seems like the whole thing will probably grow in awareness now. If the same thing happens again then yeah, I was wrong.
 
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Boogie also has 4.5 million subscribers that don’t care as well. Geoff knows boogie is popular, they are basically saying, who cares if he says awful and says some shady shit he’s popular and we will just ignore that for our gain.
Wow. I had no idea that guy had that big of a following. That being said, I’d love to see James (AVGN) at the awards. I can’t think of anyone more deserving than him since he’s been creating content since the very early days of YouTube and seems like a good dude.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I don't mean any disrespect by this post, I'm not the most articulate individual but, no. The amount of obsession and energy in this thread comes off as some sort of shared psychotic disorder.(not that it is one, but that's what it looks like externally) I'm not saying boogie is a good person but the obsession in this thread over some rando with no real influence or significant power comes off as incredibly unhealthy and makes a large part of the community look unstable. It's kinda embarrassing. There are better constructive ways to educate others than the attempt that's been displayed in this thread. 🙁 Again, I don't mean this in a condecending or disrespectful tone. I hope my words are not interpreted in a negative manner and that hopefully you can understand where I am coming from and what I am trying to portray.
You're seriously describing a well known person within the gaming comunity, who has 700k twitter followers and 4.5 million youtube subscribers as a "rando with no real influence or significant power"?
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Fuck anyone who tries to palm Boogies assholery off as "mental health issues". Look at the receipts he knows exactly what he's doing.

We go through enough of a struggle daily to not have some ignoramus act like this is the norm for us.

He's just a manipulative and abhorrent c u next Tuesday.
 
Nov 7, 2017
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I don't mean any disrespect by this post, I'm not the most articulate individual but, no. The amount of obsession and energy in this thread comes off as some sort of shared psychotic disorder.(not that it is one, but that's what it looks like externally) I'm not saying boogie is a good person but the obsession in this thread over some rando with no real influence or significant power comes off as incredibly unhealthy and makes a large part of the community look unstable. It's kinda embarrassing. There are better constructive ways to educate others than the attempt that's been displayed in this thread. 🙁 Again, I don't mean this in a condecending or disrespectful tone. I hope my words are not interpreted in a negative manner and that hopefully you can understand where I am coming from and what I am trying to portray.
He has 700k twitter followers and 4.5 MILLION on youtube, you call him a "rando with no real influence"?

I think this thread has been more than revelatory to show to what lengths gamers go to defend and excuse irrdeemable pieces of shit. You reading this thread as an embarassing psychotic disorder says more about you than you think IMO.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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I don't mean any disrespect by this post, I'm not the most articulate individual but, no. The amount of obsession and energy in this thread comes off as some sort of shared psychotic disorder.(not that it is one, but that's what it looks like externally) I'm not saying boogie is a good person but the obsession in this thread over some rando with no real influence or significant power comes off as incredibly unhealthy and makes a large part of the community look unstable. It's kinda embarrassing. There are better constructive ways to educate others than the attempt that's been displayed in this thread. 🙁 Again, I don't mean this in a condecending or disrespectful tone. I hope my words are not interpreted in a negative manner and that hopefully you can understand where I am coming from and what I am trying to portray.
“rando” ?
 
Dude isn’t even a real fence sitter.

He’s just a manipulative asshole who understands that pretending to see both sides and be a neutral party makes him grow and makes people see him with good Will and a good light. He does all of this to make money. He’s such a pathetic sorry excuse for a human being.

A real humble human being doesn’t brag about his six figure salary income, and then literally a few hours later manipulate an Arcade Cabinet company into sending him free Cabinets, by threatening to post a negative video and sic his fan base on them.

A man making six figure salary doesn’t have to beg yesterday on Twitter to DICE to send him a free copy of Battlefield V so he can make a “honest unbiased review.” How is it possible to be honest and unbiased when you begged for a free game and got it.

A self proclaimed champion of trans right doesn’t continuously pat himself on the back for his “help” towards the community, and use it to try and sweep away his shit comments. He always mentions and brahs about how “I MARCHED FOR TRANS! I TOOK A PUNCH DEFENDING A TRANS FRIEND IN HIGHSCHOOL! I DONATED TO MY TRANS MAGIC COMMINITY. I’M AN ALLY!”

A supporter of the Gay community doesn’t make comments saying “You know, the gay community should have just been kinder and more understanding. They went too fast making gay marriage legal and wanting equal rights. They should have waited 20 years to avoid making homophobic bigots uncomfortable.”

A supporter of Jews doesn’t go around and says “You know, some good came out of the holocaust!”

A supporter of Women doesn’t go around and run an old porn blog and objectify the shit of of sex workers and try to sound like a pimp. He doesn’t go around and praise Rapist and undermine the pain they caused to his own fucking sister.

Oh, by the way, did you know that in those old Porn Blogs, Boogie made racist comments saying Africans all die of AIDS?

Oh, by the way, did you know recently (a month ago) Boogie hired a woman to be a companion for Videos, and She bluntly told Boogie she is not attracted to him, but Boogie housed her for 2 weeks and showed her off on social media, in his own words “To make those small dick losers mad because I’m hanging out with hot girls. Yeah I used her for views and clicks.”


Oh, and he lies about how he met that woman. He said he met her through traditional means, and later admits he met her via websites made for paid arrangements?

Oh, and hours after bragging about hanging out with said attractive woman and posting about it on social media, he messaged his EX-WIFE passive comments? Wonder what his intentions was there.

Boogie is a complete piece of shit and I’m sorry if I sound so extreme. I just really fucking hate him. I’m 2013 he suckered me into feeling sorry for him and supporting him and giving him clicks and a platform for 5 fucking years, and then he reveals his true face. He’s a disgusting human being and I want him to be broke, alone, and miserable.

I bet you right now Boogie is crying on Twitter and trying to sweep away all the awful shit he says and does with his classic excuses of “I HAD A BAD CHILDHOOD I WAS VICTIMS OF ABUSE. I DISASSCOIATE WHEN I SAY THESE THINGS. I’M SO SORRY.”

Fuck Boogie. Fuck him.
Wow. I never knew that Boogie is a person of this.... extent. Wow.
 

A.By

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I don't mean any disrespect by this post, I'm not the most articulate individual but, no. The amount of obsession and energy in this thread comes off as some sort of shared psychotic disorder.(not that it is one, but that's what it looks like externally) I'm not saying boogie is a good person but the obsession in this thread over some rando with no real influence or significant power comes off as incredibly unhealthy and makes a large part of the community look unstable. It's kinda embarrassing. There are better constructive ways to educate others than the attempt that's been displayed in this thread. 🙁 Again, I don't mean this in a condecending or disrespectful tone. I hope my words are not interpreted in a negative manner and that hopefully you can understand where I am coming from and what I am trying to portray. If he was presenting then I'd be inclined to agree with the tone of this thread.
Boogie literally got an award on stage and has a huge following of people who hear him say the shit he says. Any such notion that he is a rando with no influence or power is absurd.

And, yes, when Boogie received an award he was known to be lousy. When Geoff was at E3 with Boogie, he was known to be lousy. That's why people are pushing for someone like Boogie to no longer be celebrated in an industry dealing with a very serious problem of white supremacy and misogyny.
 

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You're seriously describing a well known person within the gaming comunity, who has 700k twitter followers and 4.5 million youtube subscribers as a "rando with no real influence or significant power"?
in a thread about him being invited to an industry awards show.

"oh but he's just some rando, why does anyone care?". yeah, nobody's buying that act.
 
Nov 7, 2017
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By rando I meant he isn't presenting in the show or anything. Apologies for the confusion.
You still think we should ignore him, let him say his heinous shit free of any criticism because he "has no real imfluence or significative power"?

Trying to gaslight Resetera to make them think they are the unhinged ones will not work here, especialy with the video proof posted here.
 

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I would suggest that maybe someone who is so fragile as a result of childhood trauma that they need a safe space from public scrutiny should consider not trying to make a living being an internet celebrity. No one is obligated to be a famous full-time YouTuber, and none of us are obligated to be politically correct.

Boogie is simultaneously one of the loudest, most obnoxious YouTube celebrities, and one of the stupidest. I'm not talking about his weird repulsive beliefs like how being a feminist who thinks video games should be more thoughtful is equivalent to being a nazi that is protesting to protest a monument to celebrity. I'm talking about the fact that he's one of the least coherent and articulate internet personalities in gaming or outside gaming. I have taught junior high and high school at various points, and wile 13 year olds are not very good at putting together a coherent point, they are more articulate than Boogie. I would be seriously surprised if he has ever read a book voluntarily. That his views are also odious is besides the point, although they are.

Moreover, his reputation for being "nice" is based on the mistaken impression that someone who cries and is soft must be kind. No, the opposite is true. Many of the people with the softest skins are the quickest to lash out. Boogie is unkind and behaves in a rude way.
This.
 

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By rando I meant he isn't presenting in the show or anything. Apologies for the confusion.
I'm kind of amazed that you followed up your original post with an apology and it isn't about you diminishing a guy with millions of viewers who received an award from this show as a "rando with no real influence or significant power".
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I don't mean any disrespect by this post, I'm not the most articulate individual but, no. The amount of obsession and energy in this thread comes off as some sort of shared psychotic disorder.(not that it is one, but that's what it looks like externally) I'm not saying boogie is a good person but the obsession in this thread over some rando with no real influence or significant power comes off as incredibly unhealthy and makes a large part of the community look unstable. It's kinda embarrassing. There are better constructive ways to educate others than the attempt that's been displayed in this thread. 🙁 Again, I don't mean this in a condecending or disrespectful tone. I hope my words are not interpreted in a negative manner and that hopefully you can understand where I am coming from and what I am trying to portray. If he was presenting then I'd be inclined to agree with the tone of this thread.
remember when you, due to you not being "the most articulate individual", compared being trans to having a mental illness? even as just an armchair psychologist you seem to do a pretty poor job.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Exactly, "probably". We don't know.
It isn't "probably", he definitely knows. The same backlash happened when Geoff invited Boogie to his E3 show earlier this year and Geoff was active on Era right up until the backlash happened. There's zero chance he doesn't know about Boogie's bullshit, he just doesn't give a fuck.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Good retort!

Surely someone like you who spends a lot of time on forums defending the honor of sycophants who prefer airing dirty laundry about a dev and his former employer in a show that “celebrates developers” (rather than showcasing a game from an indie dev who could actually use exposure) won’t begrudge me for being embarrassing.

Enjoy your two hour Keighley infomercial.
Uh huh.

What a joy you constantly are.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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This post is pretty offensive and disrespectful to the millions of people around the world who live with mental issues without becoming nazi apologists and bigots. 'No one can imagine'. Plenty of people suffered (and suffer) equal or worse and decided to be good people and not make the world a worse place. He actively shits on many of these people with his bigotry and hate.

Miss me with the pity party.
i've been depressed and suicidal for years and somehow, somehow i've managed not to say that the holocaust had a silver lining because anne frank died (???????????????). either i deserve a medal or people should stop acting like mental illness gives you a free pass to be a nazi apologist. probably the latter.
 
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