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Boogie2988 invited to the Game Awards (famous champion of 'both sides' in regards to white supremacy)
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He should, but I imagine he's so busy right now there's zero way it's going to happen. Keep it up for a few more days and I could see an apology.
I don't really know though what could he say? "I apologize for not being aware of the messaging Boogie has put forth". Would anyone believe him? I just hope to see Keighley do better. As I earlier said, I was hoping to see some charity attached to TGA or even just highlighting and raising awareness. But with this, I assume the show won't touch on any of these issues. And honestly I'm not sure if all of the "advisory board" would be okay either with making the show in any way "political."
Heh yeah this gathers quite a lot more traffic than the OT =P
So criticisms about someone's public behavior is akin to extreme alt-right forums?
You know actual extreme alt-righters advocate for truly brutal, violent things, right? How are words that are criticizing behavior anywhere near the same level?
Told you guys in the other threads and for years where Geoff Keighley's priorities truly lie. Morals be damned.
Hatred on Resetera:
"I hate Boogie because he is an alt-right shill and an awful person who has done *LIST OF DISGUSTING ABHORENT THINGS*"
Hatred on NeoGAF:
"I hate these SJW cucks who are trying to put women, gays and non-white politics in my games"
Sometimes hatred is okay, mkay
I agree, I think that's where the interesting discussion would be. Just saying if the thread was not really about that but another "look at boogie's trash opinion" thread I thought it would get closed since those usually are. Maybe people want a perpetually open reminder thread though lol.
Geoff clearly lives and dies by this kind of centrism bullshit, he won't take a public stand.
JFC... I did wonder why the Jontron and GG stuff was omitted. Well, mystery over.
Tell me more about your visits to extreme alt-right forums. Stop using language like "disagreements" when discussing things like white supremacy, etc. Trying to put those abhorrent views on the same level as their opposite is ignorant at best. Trying to find that silver lining in the Holocaust isn't some progressive thought experiment. We see this way to often. People calling others racial epithets being "mistakes" or defending Nazis as having "differing viewpoints". Shit ain't slick at all.
I'm not joking. Is he just some Youtuber? Has he produced a game or done any actual journalism?
Yeah I went and looked at her twitter and checked some other videos after and YIKES. Her twitter even says she is a "conservative woman in manhattan."
It's really not a good look to espouse the benefits of the holocaust, or any genocide.
Upon retrospect and mounting evidence that Boogie really is quite fucked up. Yeah I get where you all are coming from. I was wrong.
There have been a few cases on Era where someone was deemed persona non grata and I personally felt it was way too harsh or hyperbolic, but in Boogies case, the dude is sick.
Dude needs some seriously help, and or to just kind of disappear out of the public eye.
There have been a few cases on Era where someone was deemed persona non grata and I personally felt it was way too harsh or hyperbolic, but in Boogies case, the dude is sick.
Dude needs some seriously help, and or to just kind of disappear out of the public eye.
I don't get some posts here. Why come in, say that Era is being toxic and evil and being a bully towards someone.
But then say, I don't really care about that person anyway. Or I don't know who he is despite there being tons of videos and tweets in this very thread.
I mean, why even come in and post then?
But then say, I don't really care about that person anyway. Or I don't know who he is despite there being tons of videos and tweets in this very thread.
I mean, why even come in and post then?
i just wish we could all ignore the politics in here, he might have said stupid things in the past but that's just his opinion and you know people have all sort of different opinions!
It's not necessarily a controversial sentiment that a lot of modern medicine was built off the horrors of Mengele and the like. If that was the only shitty thing he ever said it could be read as him making a good point in a shitty way.
But it fits into a pattern of behavior wherein he's such a moral coward that he'll take the middle ground between a reasonable opinion and an indefensible one no matter what it is, so that's why it gets called out as yet another example of his idiocy.
Only place he's willing to take a stand is on fat shaming (because it directly affects him) and on video games.
Boogie's a mess of mental health and a man that spends way too much time alone and on a computer. He's out of touch, and he's said some horribly unconsidered things, but he's hardly a neo nazi.
Condemn him for what he said. I'm totally cool with that. What he said was ENTIRELY wrong.
Until he starts marching through Charlottesville with Tiki Torches and claiming that Jewish people are devilish conspirators to the genocide of the White Race, you can't really call him a Neo Nazi or even a white supremacist.
His Holocaust comments were incredibly uninformed and distasteful, but he didn't come across like he hated Jews, thought them inferior, or anything of the likes.
At the most, he's unstable, misinformed, mildly prejudiced, and selectively conservative. I dislike him, but I don't think that he's the devil of the internet, and calling him names hardly does anything to address the things that he's actually said -- it simply fires up his supporters and makes his opponents feel self-superior.
The internet, however, tends play up things like this because it's a den for virtue signalling. One cannot have a genuine conversation about prejudice and misconception if, any time one sees somebody that says something even a LITTLE bit out of line, his immediate reaction is "FUCK THAT GUY, HE'S A NAZI!" I commend the people that have actually gone out of their way to challenge the misconceptions in his arguments, and to discuss his behavior in a mature and thoughtful way.
His attendance at the game awards is a mild annoyance rather than some fundamental moral flaw with the show.
To be clear, I'm not defending him. Everything that he's being criticized for is entirely warranted. I simply feel that the shit-flinging and intensely over-emotional reactions are entirely unproductive to actually convincing anybody -- or even HIM -- that he's done or said something wrong.
Condemn him for what he said. I'm totally cool with that. What he said was ENTIRELY wrong.
Until he starts marching through Charlottesville with Tiki Torches and claiming that Jewish people are devilish conspirators to the genocide of the White Race, you can't really call him a Neo Nazi or even a white supremacist.
His Holocaust comments were incredibly uninformed and distasteful, but he didn't come across like he hated Jews, thought them inferior, or anything of the likes.
At the most, he's unstable, misinformed, mildly prejudiced, and selectively conservative. I dislike him, but I don't think that he's the devil of the internet, and calling him names hardly does anything to address the things that he's actually said -- it simply fires up his supporters and makes his opponents feel self-superior.
The internet, however, tends play up things like this because it's a den for virtue signalling. One cannot have a genuine conversation about prejudice and misconception if, any time one sees somebody that says something even a LITTLE bit out of line, his immediate reaction is "FUCK THAT GUY, HE'S A NAZI!" I commend the people that have actually gone out of their way to challenge the misconceptions in his arguments, and to discuss his behavior in a mature and thoughtful way.
His attendance at the game awards is a mild annoyance rather than some fundamental moral flaw with the show.
To be clear, I'm not defending him. Everything that he's being criticized for is entirely warranted. I simply feel that the shit-flinging and intensely over-emotional reactions are entirely unproductive to actually convincing anybody -- or even HIM -- that he's done or said something wrong.
It needs to be political. If his entire goal is for gaming to get the prestige that film does, look to the hollywood award shows. Those people are bashing nazis, the administration, etc left and right. Racist homophobic gamers be damned
It's not espousing to analyse its outcomes ( all wars and conflicts tend to progress science, technology and medicine). Boogie's issues are much bigger than that one comment.
What the shit does this have to do with the thread, it just sounds like you wanted an excuse to post the Holocaust had "benefits".
No, not always, I've seen a lot of bans for the most ridiculous reasons, I mean, there's is a reason of why almost all the internet thinks that this place is toxic and the reason is not always that they're nazis or alt right, hell, I'm from Chile and all the gaming circles I know barely tolerate this place.
He won't, otherwise this will be validated as a thing in news stories and then it will overshadow the event itself. Commenting would be the right thing to do but I also don't expect him to sabotage his own event at the last minute.
Yeah also I would say that after reading extra insight in this thread I have shifted from "Boogie is an idiot" to "Boogie seems like he has had options to be better and chosen not to."
When I look at his life though, I can't feel hatred, it's just a sad sad depressing picture.
When I look at his life though, I can't feel hatred, it's just a sad sad depressing picture.
My impression of Boogie is that he is clearly someone who has mental issues, and I don't mean that in a derogatory way. He clearly has some trauma in his past and he's clearly not 100% stable and it seems like he has good reason not to be. He's also someone that in his attempt to be at peace with everything in life (I'm sure partly to let go of darkness in his past) he has said some pretty ignorant things.
But all in all if him and Geoff are buds I don't see anything wrong with Geoff inviting him. He didn't commit some sort of crime did he? (I feel like someone's about to quote those and show me all the crimes he has committed, in which case I stand corrected....but if not....yeah.)
But all in all if him and Geoff are buds I don't see anything wrong with Geoff inviting him. He didn't commit some sort of crime did he? (I feel like someone's about to quote those and show me all the crimes he has committed, in which case I stand corrected....but if not....yeah.)
Not that I watch the Game Awards, I know now that I shouldn't ever, and also not give a shit about it at all.
Cause they're alt accounts and probably think they're "owning the libs".
I thought Boogie was a low quality human being before entering this thread.
Now I realize he's very low quality.
I am too lazy to write down every single thing that is wrong with him, and it has been done before.
I am also disappointed in Barlog and Keighley for enabling that asshole. He should be shunned.
Now I realize he's very low quality.
I am too lazy to write down every single thing that is wrong with him, and it has been done before.
I am also disappointed in Barlog and Keighley for enabling that asshole. He should be shunned.
THE HOLOCAUST HAD BENEFITS, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!
AND THAT'S A BINGO!
Nah. Progress happens irregardless of atrocity. We're a species that breeds quickly.
He wont and never will. Taking such a stand would be career suicide in this industry. There is backlash all the time for being progressive, and it's fucking mindblowing. Recently with Battlefield for Everyone or Nintendo removing a racist Game and Watch reference, just "giving in to those SJW cucks!" and the list keeps going. Geoff would be lambasted for it, even though it would be great for him to do, if he really wants the industry to change, mature and be as inclusive as he claims it is whenever he tries to give the same shitty sentimental bullshit speech each year, then he needs to be a figure for that change, even moreso if he wants to be the face of a night every year that celebrates the hobby and industry as a whole. Same with eSports, which is also being celebrated tonight, it's riddled with ignorance.
I think Geoff Keighley has a LOT of pull, more than people might think, and he could easily be a force for change. I hope he does. Prove us wrong.
I don't know that anyone called him that, rather that he supports or enables those things, which is also terrible. Fuck Nazis, but fuck people who support them too just as hard.
He would still be a nazi-enabler. One does not need to be a nazi to contribute to the nazi cause. Simply being an enabler is enough. And boogie1488 is definitely such an enabler.
Ya hes just some Youtuber. He just talked about games and did that stupid Francis skit. I thought he was an alright dude until the whole Gamergate thing happened and he showed his ass. Now hes all about puking his personal beliefs all over everyone who will listen to him.
All of the Internet thinks this place is toxic? What do they think of the other video game centric forums, pure hell fire?
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