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Host Samurai

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Oct 27, 2017
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Boogie also has 4.5 million subscribers that don't care as well. Geoff knows boogie is popular, they are basically saying, who cares if he says awful and says some shady shit he's popular and we will just ignore that for our gain.

Wow. I had no idea that guy had that big of a following. That being said, I'd love to see James (AVGN) at the awards. I can't think of anyone more deserving than him since he's been creating content since the very early days of YouTube and seems like a good dude.
 

Trickster

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't mean any disrespect by this post, I'm not the most articulate individual but, no. The amount of obsession and energy in this thread comes off as some sort of shared psychotic disorder.(not that it is one, but that's what it looks like externally) I'm not saying boogie is a good person but the obsession in this thread over some rando with no real influence or significant power comes off as incredibly unhealthy and makes a large part of the community look unstable. It's kinda embarrassing. There are better constructive ways to educate others than the attempt that's been displayed in this thread. 🙁 Again, I don't mean this in a condecending or disrespectful tone. I hope my words are not interpreted in a negative manner and that hopefully you can understand where I am coming from and what I am trying to portray.

You're seriously describing a well known person within the gaming comunity, who has 700k twitter followers and 4.5 million youtube subscribers as a "rando with no real influence or significant power"?
 

The Pharmercy

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Oct 26, 2017
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Fuck anyone who tries to palm Boogies assholery off as "mental health issues". Look at the receipts he knows exactly what he's doing.

We go through enough of a struggle daily to not have some ignoramus act like this is the norm for us.

He's just a manipulative and abhorrent c u next Tuesday.
 

Kurdel

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Nov 7, 2017
12,157
I don't mean any disrespect by this post, I'm not the most articulate individual but, no. The amount of obsession and energy in this thread comes off as some sort of shared psychotic disorder.(not that it is one, but that's what it looks like externally) I'm not saying boogie is a good person but the obsession in this thread over some rando with no real influence or significant power comes off as incredibly unhealthy and makes a large part of the community look unstable. It's kinda embarrassing. There are better constructive ways to educate others than the attempt that's been displayed in this thread. 🙁 Again, I don't mean this in a condecending or disrespectful tone. I hope my words are not interpreted in a negative manner and that hopefully you can understand where I am coming from and what I am trying to portray.

He has 700k twitter followers and 4.5 MILLION on youtube, you call him a "rando with no real influence"?

I think this thread has been more than revelatory to show to what lengths gamers go to defend and excuse irrdeemable pieces of shit. You reading this thread as an embarassing psychotic disorder says more about you than you think IMO.
 

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Oct 28, 2017
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I don't mean any disrespect by this post, I'm not the most articulate individual but, no. The amount of obsession and energy in this thread comes off as some sort of shared psychotic disorder.(not that it is one, but that's what it looks like externally) I'm not saying boogie is a good person but the obsession in this thread over some rando with no real influence or significant power comes off as incredibly unhealthy and makes a large part of the community look unstable. It's kinda embarrassing. There are better constructive ways to educate others than the attempt that's been displayed in this thread. 🙁 Again, I don't mean this in a condecending or disrespectful tone. I hope my words are not interpreted in a negative manner and that hopefully you can understand where I am coming from and what I am trying to portray.

"rando" ?
 
Oct 27, 2017
11,496
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Dude isn't even a real fence sitter.

He's just a manipulative asshole who understands that pretending to see both sides and be a neutral party makes him grow and makes people see him with good Will and a good light. He does all of this to make money. He's such a pathetic sorry excuse for a human being.

A real humble human being doesn't brag about his six figure salary income, and then literally a few hours later manipulate an Arcade Cabinet company into sending him free Cabinets, by threatening to post a negative video and sic his fan base on them.

A man making six figure salary doesn't have to beg yesterday on Twitter to DICE to send him a free copy of Battlefield V so he can make a "honest unbiased review." How is it possible to be honest and unbiased when you begged for a free game and got it.

A self proclaimed champion of trans right doesn't continuously pat himself on the back for his "help" towards the community, and use it to try and sweep away his shit comments. He always mentions and brahs about how "I MARCHED FOR TRANS! I TOOK A PUNCH DEFENDING A TRANS FRIEND IN HIGHSCHOOL! I DONATED TO MY TRANS MAGIC COMMINITY. I'M AN ALLY!"

A supporter of the Gay community doesn't make comments saying "You know, the gay community should have just been kinder and more understanding. They went too fast making gay marriage legal and wanting equal rights. They should have waited 20 years to avoid making homophobic bigots uncomfortable."

A supporter of Jews doesn't go around and says "You know, some good came out of the holocaust!"

A supporter of Women doesn't go around and run an old porn blog and objectify the shit of of sex workers and try to sound like a pimp. He doesn't go around and praise Rapist and undermine the pain they caused to his own fucking sister.

Oh, by the way, did you know that in those old Porn Blogs, Boogie made racist comments saying Africans all die of AIDS?

Oh, by the way, did you know recently (a month ago) Boogie hired a woman to be a companion for Videos, and She bluntly told Boogie she is not attracted to him, but Boogie housed her for 2 weeks and showed her off on social media, in his own words "To make those small dick losers mad because I'm hanging out with hot girls. Yeah I used her for views and clicks."


Oh, and he lies about how he met that woman. He said he met her through traditional means, and later admits he met her via websites made for paid arrangements?

Oh, and hours after bragging about hanging out with said attractive woman and posting about it on social media, he messaged his EX-WIFE passive comments? Wonder what his intentions was there.

Boogie is a complete piece of shit and I'm sorry if I sound so extreme. I just really fucking hate him. I'm 2013 he suckered me into feeling sorry for him and supporting him and giving him clicks and a platform for 5 fucking years, and then he reveals his true face. He's a disgusting human being and I want him to be broke, alone, and miserable.

I bet you right now Boogie is crying on Twitter and trying to sweep away all the awful shit he says and does with his classic excuses of "I HAD A BAD CHILDHOOD I WAS VICTIMS OF ABUSE. I DISASSCOIATE WHEN I SAY THESE THINGS. I'M SO SORRY."

Fuck Boogie. Fuck him.

Wow. I never knew that Boogie is a person of this.... extent. Wow.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I don't mean any disrespect by this post, I'm not the most articulate individual but, no. The amount of obsession and energy in this thread comes off as some sort of shared psychotic disorder.(not that it is one, but that's what it looks like externally) I'm not saying boogie is a good person but the obsession in this thread over some rando with no real influence or significant power comes off as incredibly unhealthy and makes a large part of the community look unstable. It's kinda embarrassing. There are better constructive ways to educate others than the attempt that's been displayed in this thread. 🙁 Again, I don't mean this in a condecending or disrespectful tone. I hope my words are not interpreted in a negative manner and that hopefully you can understand where I am coming from and what I am trying to portray. If he was presenting then I'd be inclined to agree with the tone of this thread.

Boogie literally got an award on stage and has a huge following of people who hear him say the shit he says. Any such notion that he is a rando with no influence or power is absurd.

And, yes, when Boogie received an award he was known to be lousy. When Geoff was at E3 with Boogie, he was known to be lousy. That's why people are pushing for someone like Boogie to no longer be celebrated in an industry dealing with a very serious problem of white supremacy and misogyny.
 

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You're seriously describing a well known person within the gaming comunity, who has 700k twitter followers and 4.5 million youtube subscribers as a "rando with no real influence or significant power"?
in a thread about him being invited to an industry awards show.

"oh but he's just some rando, why does anyone care?". yeah, nobody's buying that act.
 

Kurdel

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Nov 7, 2017
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By rando I meant he isn't presenting in the show or anything. Apologies for the confusion.

You still think we should ignore him, let him say his heinous shit free of any criticism because he "has no real imfluence or significative power"?

Trying to gaslight Resetera to make them think they are the unhinged ones will not work here, especialy with the video proof posted here.
 

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I would suggest that maybe someone who is so fragile as a result of childhood trauma that they need a safe space from public scrutiny should consider not trying to make a living being an internet celebrity. No one is obligated to be a famous full-time YouTuber, and none of us are obligated to be politically correct.

Boogie is simultaneously one of the loudest, most obnoxious YouTube celebrities, and one of the stupidest. I'm not talking about his weird repulsive beliefs like how being a feminist who thinks video games should be more thoughtful is equivalent to being a nazi that is protesting to protest a monument to celebrity. I'm talking about the fact that he's one of the least coherent and articulate internet personalities in gaming or outside gaming. I have taught junior high and high school at various points, and wile 13 year olds are not very good at putting together a coherent point, they are more articulate than Boogie. I would be seriously surprised if he has ever read a book voluntarily. That his views are also odious is besides the point, although they are.

Moreover, his reputation for being "nice" is based on the mistaken impression that someone who cries and is soft must be kind. No, the opposite is true. Many of the people with the softest skins are the quickest to lash out. Boogie is unkind and behaves in a rude way.

This.
 

L Thammy

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By rando I meant he isn't presenting in the show or anything. Apologies for the confusion.

I'm kind of amazed that you followed up your original post with an apology and it isn't about you diminishing a guy with millions of viewers who received an award from this show as a "rando with no real influence or significant power".
 

Alucrid

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I don't mean any disrespect by this post, I'm not the most articulate individual but, no. The amount of obsession and energy in this thread comes off as some sort of shared psychotic disorder.(not that it is one, but that's what it looks like externally) I'm not saying boogie is a good person but the obsession in this thread over some rando with no real influence or significant power comes off as incredibly unhealthy and makes a large part of the community look unstable. It's kinda embarrassing. There are better constructive ways to educate others than the attempt that's been displayed in this thread. 🙁 Again, I don't mean this in a condecending or disrespectful tone. I hope my words are not interpreted in a negative manner and that hopefully you can understand where I am coming from and what I am trying to portray. If he was presenting then I'd be inclined to agree with the tone of this thread.

remember when you, due to you not being "the most articulate individual", compared being trans to having a mental illness? even as just an armchair psychologist you seem to do a pretty poor job.
 

LiquidSolid

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Oct 26, 2017
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Exactly, "probably". We don't know.
It isn't "probably", he definitely knows. The same backlash happened when Geoff invited Boogie to his E3 show earlier this year and Geoff was active on Era right up until the backlash happened. There's zero chance he doesn't know about Boogie's bullshit, he just doesn't give a fuck.
 

ZeoVGM

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Oct 25, 2017
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Good retort!

Surely someone like you who spends a lot of time on forums defending the honor of sycophants who prefer airing dirty laundry about a dev and his former employer in a show that "celebrates developers" (rather than showcasing a game from an indie dev who could actually use exposure) won't begrudge me for being embarrassing.

Enjoy your two hour Keighley infomercial.

Uh huh.

What a joy you constantly are.
 

psychowave

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Oct 25, 2017
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This post is pretty offensive and disrespectful to the millions of people around the world who live with mental issues without becoming nazi apologists and bigots. 'No one can imagine'. Plenty of people suffered (and suffer) equal or worse and decided to be good people and not make the world a worse place. He actively shits on many of these people with his bigotry and hate.

Miss me with the pity party.
i've been depressed and suicidal for years and somehow, somehow i've managed not to say that the holocaust had a silver lining because anne frank died (???????????????). either i deserve a medal or people should stop acting like mental illness gives you a free pass to be a nazi apologist. probably the latter.
 

kamineko

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I don't want to offend anybody, but here's some garbage where I compare being bothered about seriously toxic behavior to mental illness. He's just some rando, crazypants!
 

Painguy

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You still think we should ignore him, let him say his heinous shit free of any criticism because he "has no real imfluence or significative power"?

Trying to gaslight Resetera to make them think they are the unhinged ones will not work here, especialy with the video proof posted here.
No not at all. My point in my post was I think a change in tone would make others more willing to be educated on his behaviour. I never suggested ignoring him. Apologies for making you all feel like I was trying to gaslight you all. That wasn't my intention. I know given the current enviornment that it is difficult to take the time to distinguish posts like mine from trolls. My words are truly coming from a good and genuine place though. I hope you can believe me, but I understand if you don't. I will leave the thread though as I can see my input is not being appreciated and understood. Sorry for wasting your time...
 

itchi

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Oct 27, 2017
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So if you reach the conclusion that Boogie should retire because he's not in a mental health place to be exposed to the public, and I come to the conclusion that Boogie should retire because he's an asshole that makes the world a worse place, maybe we could meet in the middle. Wouldn't that be great?

If he retires I wouldn't care I've never watched any of his content apart from a rage video at some point. I just think the issues highlighted in the OP can be discussed without the "look at the stupid thing he did on stream one time" or bringing up the clear issues he has with his parents.

But if you want your hate thread go for it that's fine there just isn't much worthwhile discussion here.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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No not at all. My point in my post was I think a change in tone would make others more willing to be educated on his behaviour. I never suggested ignoring him. Apologies for making you all feel like I was trying to gaslight you all. That wasn't my intention. I know given the current enviornment that it is difficult to take the time to distinguish posts like mine from trolls. My words are truly coming from a good and genuine place though. I hope you can believe me, but I understand if you don't. I will leave the thread though as I can see my input is not being appreciated and understood. Sorry for wasting your time...
Still feels like gaslighting.
 

Xenogamer

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't mean any disrespect by this post, I'm not the most articulate individual but, no. The amount of obsession and energy in this thread comes off as some sort of shared psychotic disorder.(not that it is one, but that's what it looks like externally) I'm not saying boogie is a good person but the obsession in this thread over some rando with no real influence or significant power comes off as incredibly unhealthy and makes a large part of the community look unstable. It's kinda embarrassing. There are better constructive ways to educate others than the attempt that's been displayed in this thread. 🙁 Again, I don't mean this in a condecending or disrespectful tone. I hope my words are not interpreted in a negative manner and that hopefully you can understand where I am coming from and what I am trying to portray. If he was presenting then I'd be inclined to agree with the tone of this thread.

Psychotic disorder? Lol man you have no idea what you're talking about.
 

L Thammy

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I don't want to offend anybody, but here's some garbage where I compare being bothered about seriously toxic behavior to mental illness. He's just some rando, crazypants!
I haven't read a post in this thread and I literally don't know who Boogie is, but I agree with you and have prepared an explanation of how this thread and forum are the real villains
 

Kurdel

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Nov 7, 2017
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No not at all. My point in my post was I think a change in tone would make others more willing to be educated on his behaviour. I never suggested ignoring him. Apologies for making you all feel like I was trying to gaslight you all. That wasn't my intention. I know given the current enviornment that it is difficult to take the time to distinguish posts like mine from trolls. My words are truly coming from a good and genuine place though. I hope you can believe me, but I understand if you don't. I will leave the thread though as I can see my input is not being appreciated and understood. Sorry for wasting your time...

I honestly don't know what you expected from these posts and this intervention.
 

Scherzo

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Nov 27, 2017
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Question, does Boogie get involved in GG/KiA style stuff nowadays? As someone who ran with a... let's say not great crowd back in 2014, I get how someone at the onset could be sympathetic to the presented idea. But that sort of requires not digging too deeply into the nature of 'Quinnspiracy' and the awful reasons this became an issue to begin with. My opinion has evolved to if you sympathize with GG, whether intentionally or not, you're defending the slutshamming/internet hate mob antics that lay at it's core.
 

Xenogamer

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Oct 25, 2017
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Birds of a feather flock together, this says a lot about Geoff and the company he likes to keep, he knows what boogie represents and probably agrees with it.
 

Benita

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Aug 27, 2018
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I feel it's because 99% of them have no idea of any of this stuff.
Which is why it's baffling that this is so abhorrent to people. Sure he's said some really questionable stuff but it's such a minute part of all the content he puts out and who he is.

He's not Jordan Petersen or Alex Jones spitting non-stop bullshit. If you invite either of them to your awards show, you're giving their garbage a platform. With boogie, you're inviting a guy who's all about gaming but has said a handful of gross things.

If Keighley was palling around with Peterson and Jones, it would be fair to project their political views onto him, because that's who they are as people. Not really the case with boogie.
 

L Thammy

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Which is why it's baffling that this is so abhorrent to people. Sure he's said some really questionable stuff but it's such a minute part of all the content he puts out and who he is.

He's not Jordan Petersen or Alex Jones spitting non-stop bullshit. If you invite either of them to your awards show, you're giving their garbage a platform. With boogie, you're inviting a guy who's all about gaming but has said a handful of gross things.

No, he's broadcasted a couple handfuls of absolutely heinous things. It's not unreasonable that he's said a hell of a lot more.

What you said right now serves absolutely no purpose except to shield him. People talk about multiple topics during the day. Alex Jones and Jordan Peterson don't spout hate 100% of the time either; they probably also talk about what they're having for lunch on occasion. That doesn't excuse the heinous things they say.
 

Scherzo

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Which is why it's baffling that this is so abhorrent to people. Sure he's said some really questionable stuff but it's such a minute part of all the content he puts out and who he is.

He's not Jordan Petersen or Alex Jones spitting non-stop bullshit. If you invite either of them to your awards show, you're giving their garbage a platform. With boogie, you're inviting a guy who's all about gaming but has said a handful of gross things.

If Keighley was palling around with Peterson and Jones, it would be fair to project their political views onto him, because that's who they are as people. Not really the case with boogie.

Well that's why it's important to me whether he's still actively participating in that shit.
 

trugs26

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Jan 6, 2018
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Nazi sympathiser? He clearly said what they did was horrible. I don't understand why people are saying this? His point was to say things aren't black and white, not to excuse or sympathise what Nazis did.
 

RedMercury

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Which is why it's baffling that this is so abhorrent to people. Sure he's said some really questionable stuff but it's such a minute part of all the content he puts out and who he is.
Enabling Nazis has been abhorrent for, geez, over 70 years now? Would you say the same thing about, for example, Michael Richards after his one racist tirade? Or Louie CK, having a 25 year career with a few hours of it masturbating in front of women? It doesn't matter if it's "minute" if it's bad. Boogie is actively saying this stuff over periods of years, injecting his twisted ideas onto a lot of people because he's cultivated a large platform.
He's not Jordan Petersen or Alex Jones spitting non-stop bullshit. If you invite either of them to your awards show, you're giving their garbage a platform. With boogie, you're inviting a guy who's all about gaming but has said a handful of gross things.
And Jordan Peterson stans would say he's a guy who's just all about philosophy.

If Keighley was palling around with Peterson and Jones, it would be fair to project their political views onto him, because that's who they are as people. Not really the case with boogie.
Has Boogie not constantly made his "political views" clear? I put that in quotes because white supremacy and misogyny aren't political views.
 

Goat Mimicry

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Oct 25, 2017
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Well that's why it's important to me whether he's still actively participating in that shit.

Based on his comments on Anita Sarkeesian and Charlottesville? Yes.

Granted, he didn't say he supported GamerGate at that time, but only a GamerGate supporter would imply that she deserved any blame for what happened.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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If he retires I wouldn't care I've never watched any of his content apart from a rage video at some point. I just think the issues highlighted in the OP can be discussed without the "look at the stupid thing he did on stream one time" or bringing up the clear issues he has with his parents.

But if you want your hate thread go for it that's fine there just isn't much worthwhile discussion here.

Or maybe we can stop treating the mentally ill as children and/or bad people and observe the fact that mentally ill people can be good and bad, and that they have agency in their decisions. A person who uses their platform multiple times (not one time, but multiple times) to do and say abusive things isn't excepted from being criticized because they're mentally ill. It means that they're being abusive and need to not be able to do that anymore.

Nazi sympathiser? He clearly said what they did was horrible. I don't understand why people are saying this? His point was to say things aren't black and white, not to excuse or sympathise what Nazis did.

In response to Charlottesville, Boogie blamed Anita Sarkeesian for the killing.
 

New Username

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If he retires I wouldn't care I've never watched any of his content apart from a rage video at some point. I just think the issues highlighted in the OP can be discussed without the "look at the stupid thing he did on stream one time" or bringing up the clear issues he has with his parents.

But if you want your hate thread go for it that's fine there just isn't much worthwhile discussion here.

There was never any worthwhile discussion to be had, we're discussing Boogie2988. Nothing he creates has any value and it's not even provocative because it's about as deep as a kid's macaroni art. It's hard to imagine something closer to an intellectual black hole. It's actually a miracle he can master the CAPCTHA prompts necessary to use websites.

But I'm not sure why we need to have a worthwhile discussion: Boogie2988's career is a testament to the fact that a great many people enjoy watching people be stupid assholes and whine about how liberal safe spaces and feminism and political correctness are ruining the country. And if Boogie2988 can live full time off internet welfare from other idiots, then I can surely do the same thing for free.

Option 1: It's funny to make fun of idiots, and double funny if they're also hateful idiots. And the edgier humor is, the better it is, so if that includes making fun of his mental health or his physical appearance or whatever, more's the better.

Option 2: Making fun of other people isn't nice, which makes Boogie2988 one of the least nice people on earth, and he should be mercilessly yelled at until he goes away so we can go back to living in a civilized society.

Centrism rules.
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't he saying that bringing over Nazi scientists AKA Operation Paperclip resulted in some good things?
 

Fhtagn

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Horrifically tone deaf and cynical, at best, to invite this guy to anything. The corporate partners showing new games at this event should be pulling out.
 

Benita

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No, he's broadcasted a couple handfuls of absolutely heinous things. It's not unreasonable that he's said a hell of a lot more.

What you said right now serves absolutely no purpose except to shield him. People talk about multiple topics during the day. Alex Jones and Jordan Peterson don't spout hate 100% of the time either; they probably also talk about what they're having for lunch on occasion. That doesn't excuse the heinous things they say.

I hear you. I'm not really trying to shield him as much as to suggest that for most of his audience, those things don't define him in the same way they do Peterson or Jones.

That of course doesn't make it any better that boogie said them, but means that inviting him to a show isn't a celebration of those specific vews like it would be for those other guys.

Well that's why it's important to me whether he's still actively participating in that shit.
Fair enough. I'm certainly on board with anyone exercising their right to tell boogie to fuck off into the sun. I just don't think it's that reasonable to criticise the show or Keighley himself in this instance.

But yeah, fuck boogie.
 
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