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Borderlands 3 |OT| The Three-Sequel!!

Which Vault Hunter are you going with for your first playthrough?


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Skid 4

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Jan 18, 2018
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I havent even finished the raid yet alone on mayhem 4 yet but I hope they buff the other class mods so all of them are viable
the good news is amara is so broken that she can literally solo it. so if you do matchmaking and you have an amara or 2 (everyone is amara now so you will) you can get carried! thats how i beat it the first few times
 

Skid 4

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Jan 18, 2018
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yeah, true! i've beaten it on mayhem 4 probably a dozen times i guess. i forgot it was exclusive, sorry. but certain mods you can grind from bosses/mini bosses like i know billy the anointed can drops moze's mod and Sylestro drops Amara. (apearently her's is the easiest to farm out of the 4)
 

SparkleMotion

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Nov 3, 2017
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Is Zane at all viable in Mayhem 3+? I am about to beat the story with him. He is my first character and I find him the most fun to play.
 

ezekial45

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I'm having a really hard time fighting in Mayhem 3 and above with Moze. I mostly play solo and my weapons aren't doing enough damage and I usually get downed in a few hits from elite mobs. It's been really frustrating to play this game following the recent update. I can find some decent drops for weapons, but they aren't really helping me at all.

Should I give TVHM a shot? I'm still on my first playthrough, and I'm wondering if going on the second one will get me some better gear. Any advice?
 

Psychoward

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Nov 7, 2017
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I'm having a really hard time fighting in Mayhem 3 and above with Moze. I mostly play solo and my weapons aren't doing enough damage and I usually get downed in a few hits from elite mobs. It's been really frustrating to play this game following the recent update. I can find some decent drops for weapons, but they aren't really helping me at all.

Should I give TVHM a shot? I'm still on my first playthrough, and I'm wondering if going on the second one will get me some better gear. Any advice?
Are you level 50? Mayhem 3 shouldnt be attempted until you have great gear all around and m4 is really only for perfect builds
 

AnotherNils

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Oct 27, 2017
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Couple of questions:

If I play on Mayhem mode, do treasure chests have better drops? i.e., if I pick a map with a lot of them, am I increasing my chances even without fighting enemies?

What's harder, Normal M1 or TVHM? Or Normal M2 vs TVHM M1? Which ones would give better loot?

What do you guys consider must have legendary weapons?

Also, I find I don't enjoy using the various Jakobs legendary pistols. Am I limiting myself by ignoring them?

Less enemies are weak to corrosive, but the DLC will change some of that. Seems the casino DLC will feature lots of loaders.
That's a nice try at optimism, but my gear being useful mostly in a DLC I have to buy is a tough pill.

I'd be happier if I could find a dedicated Shredifier drop. Thing is a monster.
 

ezekial45

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Are you level 50? Mayhem 3 shouldnt be attempted until you have great gear all around and m4 is really only for perfect builds
Yes, I am level 50. I've been playing for a long time now, well over 70 hours. I'm wondering if I need to redo my character's build or something. Mayhem lvl 2 is giving me problems at some point as well.
 

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I think I have all of wotan and valkyries specific drops. I really want the SMG but resetting the story and getting all the way to pain and terror or farming valkyries more is just ugh
I mean its a one time kill and the drop rate is under 1%

I got the smg and it sucks, the only good version is the one firing two bullets at once


Also for ANYBODY on pc wanting / needing to clear the Takedown in TVHM / Mayhem 4 (or just mayhem 4 in normal), add me on EGS : St4bbie

I can solo it just fine with Moze Amara and Fl4k, so come and tag along
 

DanGo

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Oct 25, 2017
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Couple of questions:

If I play on Mayhem mode, do treasure chests have better drops? i.e., if I pick a map with a lot of them, am I increasing my chances even without fighting enemies?
Yes.

That's a nice try at optimism, but my gear being useful mostly in a DLC I have to buy is a tough pill.

I'd be happier if I could find a dedicated Shredifier drop. Thing is a monster.
That's true and fair enough. As it stands, corrosive is definitely of more limited use.
 

Psychoward

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Endgame spoilers
I wish we could revert the moon back so it doesn't have Lilith's dumb sigil on it
 

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Lmao of course I say something in my previous post and



However I really won't farm the 100% damage after getting rakk'd anointment, screw that
 

AnotherNils

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So, as someone who was never particularly good at endgame on the previous installment, is there a trick to staying alive? Just tried Mayhem 2 to try and farm some legendaries, and the pricks with RL or other heavy hitting weapons just decimate and drop my shields in just a few hits. Also their accuracy is only a little short of wallhacks. Is using cover a large part of the later game? Because I'm rocking a legendary shield and most legendaries are on the low end of the capacity scale anyway.
 

Namorange

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Oct 31, 2017
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This game is pretty damn buggy. It’s frustrating. My Xbox One X was turned off three times today when trying to load my character. On-top of the drifting issue on the left stick and the buggy inventory management. It’s certainly the most persistent, buggy game that I have played in a bit but I am still enjoying it.
 

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So, as someone who was never particularly good at endgame on the previous installment, is there a trick to staying alive? Just tried Mayhem 2 to try and farm some legendaries, and the pricks with RL or other heavy hitting weapons just decimate and drop my shields in just a few hits. Also their accuracy is only a little short of wallhacks. Is using cover a large part of the later game? Because I'm rocking a legendary shield and most legendaries are on the low end of the capacity scale anyway.
there are so many ways to increase your survivability that I honestly don't know where to begin with, its very character based. who are you playing ? id advise getting a black ham shield and a transformer, combined to the last stand relic as starting point, these are universal options
 

Skid 4

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Is Zane at all viable in Mayhem 3+? I am about to beat the story with him. He is my first character and I find him the most fun to play.
absolutely! as a matter of fact it's usually zane reviving everyone, atleast when i'm playing as his. I have a level 50 Zane and Moze and I actually think Zane is better, well i prefer him any way. He takes a lot of tinkering to get him how you like. but what it comes down to for just about any character is anointed weapons. just get good anointed perks and any character/build can work
 

AnotherNils

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there are so many ways to increase your survivability that I honestly don't know where to begin with, its very character based. who are you playing ? id advise getting a black ham shield and a transformer, combined to the last stand relic as starting point, these are universal options
Moze.

I do have a transformer, but I try not to use it when I'm not trying to conquer arenas as I don't want to get used to how good it is.

Back him will unfortunately require me to go thorugh TVHM, so that might not happen.

Been using the Westergun and I feel like I need to put that aside in M1 because its liquidating everyone.

Working on the last stand relic. Gotta farm it.
 

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Moze.

I do have a transformer, but I try not to use it when I'm not trying to conquer arenas as I don't want to get used to how good it is.

Back him will unfortunately require me to go thorugh TVHM, so that might not happen.

Been using the Westergun and I feel like I need to put that aside in M1 because its liquidating everyone.

Working on the last stand relic. Gotta farm it.
I can understand that desire, when it comes down to not get used to how good it is but honestly with what awaits down the line, you kind of want to use what works because the spectacle will keep cranking itself up

Moze's survivability mostly comes from the talent healing her shield with grenade damage, while combining it with the transformer and a deathless relic (which will transform all your hp but 1 into shields)

You'll be a walking terminator
 

Psychoward

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I honestly think the transformer is a bit absurd in that it seems like there's 0 point in using any other shield for 90% of builds. Super high capacity and complete shock immunity would be enough but shock damage also recharges it? Too good
 

LossAversion

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I honestly think the transformer is a bit absurd in that it seems like there's 0 point in using any other shield for 90% of builds. Super high capacity and complete shock immunity would be enough but shock damage also recharges it? Too good
Stop giving Gearbox any more ideas about nerfing shit, lol.

The Transformer gives Moze the ability to not take Vampyr in every build.
 

LossAversion

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They could buff other shields
I think that The Transformer is amazing for survivability but it doesn't really offer anything beyond that. It's not giving you any additional damage or bonus effects like a lot of the other shields in the game do.

I'm all for buffing stuff though. Nerfing stuff that isn't actually broken (like the pipe bomb was) is just silly to me in a primarily single player/co-op game. I get that Gearbox doesn't want any specific build to be the only choice for a character but they're fighting a losing battle. People will always find the most efficient builds and exploit whatever they can. In the meantime, Gearbox runs the risk of making the game less fun for everyone else by constantly nerfing stuff. Buffing weaker options is always the better approach if they want build diversity.
 

Van Bur3n

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I honestly think the transformer is a bit absurd in that it seems like there's 0 point in using any other shield for 90% of builds. Super high capacity and complete shock immunity would be enough but shock damage also recharges it? Too good
Yeah, there aren't really a whole lot of good legendary shields in this game outside of Transformer.
 

AnotherNils

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I honestly think the transformer is a bit absurd in that it seems like there's 0 point in using any other shield for 90% of builds. Super high capacity and complete shock immunity would be enough but shock damage also recharges it? Too good
Isn’t it’s capacity on the higher end for legendaries? That’s the part that surprises me. I would expect a shield capable of healing itself from the very element that should drain it to have a lower capacity.
 

Psychoward

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Isn’t it’s capacity on the higher end for legendaries? That’s the part that surprises me. I would expect a shield capable of healing itself from the very element that should drain it to have a lower capacity.
Yep, its drawbacks are an average/subpar recharge delay and no offensive bonuses but it's bar none the best defensive shield in the game imo
 

Skid 4

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i just beat Wotan with a group of randoms and right before we beat him a dude on our team died and when he came back in to get his loot, Wotan respawned! There were so many legendary weapons
 

amon37

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i just beat Wotan with a group of randoms and right before we beat him a dude on our team died and when he came back in to get his loot, Wotan respawned! There were so many legendary weapons
Ya there's a trick that if someone stays behind where katagawas reach is after wotan is killed that person dies then reswapns and flips the switch there wotan will respawn.
 

Bisnic

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Kinda absurd the guardian rank perk bug still isn't fixed
Blame the whole console patch certification process I guess, otherwise they probably would have fixed that a few days after the November patch. It's a shame they can't(or won't) release updates faster for PC and instead wait to release it for everyone at the same time.
 

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I honestly think the transformer is a bit absurd in that it seems like there's 0 point in using any other shield for 90% of builds. Super high capacity and complete shock immunity would be enough but shock damage also recharges it? Too good
Im using the takedown's amp shield on almost all my toons but Moze now since I run a tediore build on her but nah, Transformer isn't the go to. For example Stop Gap and back ham are beyond amazing with the right builds

Oddball being Zane as always since his best shield is a lvl 1 legendary. His gameplay is beyond weird now I hate it
 

Skittles

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Blame the whole console patch certification process I guess, otherwise they probably would have fixed that a few days after the November patch. It's a shame they can't(or won't) release updates faster for PC and instead wait to release it for everyone at the same time.
Yeap, sony/MS QA has to be scheduled far in advance and it costs money to do. So it's up to their publisher how often patches can be released (which for now is 1 a month). I'm sure they don't do faster PC patches because it'd piss people off and it'd cause trouble with keeping track what platform has what.
There was just a hotfix that came out after the patch that broke the perks though right
Nah patch broke perks, a hotfix broke Megavore but they rolled that back until the patch.
 

Psychoward

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Yeap, sony/MS QA has to be scheduled far in advance and it costs money to do. So it's up to their publisher how often patches can be released (which for now is 1 a month). I'm sure they don't do faster PC patches because it'd piss people off and it'd cause trouble with keeping track what platform has what.

Nah patch broke perks, a hotfix broke Megavore but they rolled that back until the patch.
Yeah I meant the patch broke the perks but then there was a hotfix afterwards that didnt fix them
 

LossAversion

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Blame the whole console patch certification process I guess, otherwise they probably would have fixed that a few days after the November patch. It's a shame they can't(or won't) release updates faster for PC and instead wait to release it for everyone at the same time.
Plenty of games get patches out way faster than BL3 has so far. The whole "console certification takes forever" thing isn't really true anymore. They just want to bundle as many fixes into one patch as they can in order to save some money. Which is a bit fucking absurd considering that they broke a major feature in their own game and then they're making everyone wait an entire month for a fix.
 

Skid 4

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Jan 18, 2018
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i can't tell if it's the matchmaking or if no one is trying to do mayhem4 raid but man does it take forever to get a full group que'd up sometimes
 

Skittles

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Plenty of games get patches out way faster than BL3 has so far. The whole "console certification takes forever" thing isn't really true anymore. They just want to bundle as many fixes into one patch as they can in order to save some money. Which is a bit fucking absurd considering that they broke a major feature in their own game and then they're making everyone wait an entire month for a fix.
I mean at best testing for the game runs two weeks (takes a full week to play the main story). As there's certification and the QA team at 2k to go through. Plus the time spent developing the patch itself.