Either way it seems like the issue was resolved and was possibly misinterpreted. This was edited into his review:
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Borderlands 3 - Review Thread
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Wait. People have never seen or even heard a reference to Mommy Dearest?
I thought it was a pretty well-known line... it's THE line from that movie.
Not in 2019. That movie is almost 40 years old. I only saw it because my mom happened to be watching it when I was a kid.
The whole review code situation is bizarre, especially so since it seems that the game is very good. I really wonder why 2K would do it like this.
What the hell?
Polygon:
And this is most polished game GB has done because how much time they had just for polish phase.
Why the fuck would you have your reviews be based on an early build? Who at 2k and Gearbox thought that shit was a good idea? It's bad enough that they prohibited any outlets outside the US from even getting to review it, but to then have those reviews be of an early build is utterly stupid.
Well, he got weird timing on the lines (civilized age thing) and Gearbox is known for a certain type of humor. I would've assumed it was about abortion, too.
Ehh...that's a bit surprising. This game looks fine, but I can nearly run Gears 5 in 4K/60FPS with my 2080/9700K, and that's a legit contender for best (technical) looking game ever made.
Oh well, optimization, different game, and all.
If this has taught us anything, it's that Borderlands 3 brand of hit-or-miss comedy will have you googling why two COMPLETELY unrelated references were squashed into a meaningless non-joke. 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
Yeah, Borderlands never was all that well known for its optimization.
What do you mean?
Looking at the game it just looks like they tweaked the engine a bit. Borderlands 2 performs badly as well
Seems to be an EGS issue. and I'm guessing the console ports just weren't ready or they was some sort of agreement for PC reviews. That being said tons of game reviews are of not a day 1 build...
EDIT: saw the other thread, def not an EGS issue.
Also i don't get this whole abortion thing at all. BL2 had the same mommy dearest line in it.
There is no standard for what ultra settings entails. It varies from game to game. It just depends on how far the devs over tuned the highest settings. I am willing to bet that there are a few in borderlands 3 that you can turn down to get much more reasonable performance and the game will look the same.
Not trying to defend the devs here, but I also have a 2080 TI and I never use the highest settings unless I am able to get 60-100 FPS no matter what, which is rare.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think Borderlands is funny or ever has been
Because there is no gold release when the game comes out and all people will play the early build..
To be fair I review console versions of games and 9 times out of 10 you get an older build if you get a code before release. Ubisoft games for example usually get patched like 2 or 3 times before release when you get it early, so it's not that uncommon. Most of the times when you get an early build they supply a document with known bugs etc so you know what will get patched before release.
Or it has taught us to not immediately jump to the worst conclusions about a writer. One of those.
Ah gotcha. Hopefully that means the final game has better performance across the board.
The Pre Sequel runs much better than BL2 though, even with Physx
"I want to live in a more civilized age! No more wire hangers!" makes more sense and has more relevance as an abortion-related statement than "randomized battle callout" immediately followed by a 40-year-old Mommy Dearest reference.
I think the worst conclusion about the writer still stands: he can't write a good joke.
The absolute dumbest thing about review threads here is that once the game is actually out and people have played it themselves the thread is dead. So all get is thousands of posts arguing and crying about scores based on nothing but fanboy bias until the game is released and then it's a ghost town.
A joke being funny or not is entirely subjective. Whether you think it's a good joke or not has no effect on the actual intention behind the line. Games like this are filled with hundreds, if not thousands of lines of unimportant dialogue and they can't all be amazing. Especially when you're writing dialogue for random psychotic enemies. I'd argue that a nonsensical line like that is perfectly in line with what you might expect out of those enemies. Regardless, there's no reason to just assume it was ill-intentioned. Just because you aren't old enough to understand the reference doesn't mean it's okay to turn it into something you do understand without any consideration for alternatives.
Eh, "I want to live in a more civilized age!" is actually a pretty decent comedic combat bark.
I always recognize "No wire hangers!", but I guess that's just because MST3K used it all the time, so it has an artificially-inflated level of relevance in my head.
People discuss the reviews.
Once the game us out they play the game and discuss it in the OT.
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No, the line sounded like it was whole and, as a whole, it sounded a specific way.
That's it. It's an unfortunate event that it happened to randomized that way, but it did and it sounded like the joke people were reacting about.
It was a much safer assumption that the line was scripted than "two random lines happend to fall in place". It sounded bad.
Probably thought "oh, our references were outdated too soon with 2? Take this then!"
Think it's more on the state of a review thread after the game is released. There were more than a few bad ones with just shit discourse as it went on.
God of War was one. Some practically begged a mod to unlock the review thread so they can shit on a negative review since they got crap for trying to do so in the OT.
Oof. I dunno, Eric Andre is one of my favorite comedians and he doesn't have "commentary" on anything either. Somebody with a Twitter should ask her if she likes him lol.
You have one by chance Vestan?
That's not what the person said, but it's a silly argument anyway. Of course the thread loses steam once the game is actually in our hands
It wasn't jumping to conclusions, though. You've missed the point.
There was literally no way to even think it was two random lines that happend to fall in place, it sounded written.
And if written, it doesn't matter about intent because it had a very clear meaning regardless.
It was a fair response.
Yeah, just sounds like Borderlands isn't for that person. They just described Borderlands 2 lol