except "No more wire hangers!" was a callout also used in BL2 so it was just re-used in BL3...
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Borderlands 3 - Review Thread
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I think its fine. We assumed, but didnt really overreact. No one was calling for anyone's head.
And Borderlands 2 has worse humor and style than Borderlands 1.
So forced and try hard.
I mean this is an silly defense, there is a very specific ongoing societal issue that has more direct relevance to the set of lines that the writer of the review was presented with then a reference to a movie made more than 20 years ago. It's perfectly legitimate to make an assumption of intention given the context provided at the time. What you're asking for is an impossible standard of perfect clarity of creative intention.
Just... no.
For me that humor could have worked when I was 13. Maybe.
Think a little about impact vs intent. It's not really something you can disagree with, tbh.
Why do we avoid certain jokes? This isn't hard to get.
this person seems like they roll their eyes anytime the number "69" is referenced instead of instinctively saying "nice." also there are way better examples of terrible writing in games than the borderlands series. wish her thread had more examples though, the borderlands style of writing def isn't for everyone. more interested in hearing about the side quests though cause another review said they were good actually?
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Same about to pick up the super deluxe edition digital. My new to go MP game.
Same about to pick up the super deluxe edition digital. My new to go MP game.
Considering that we had people arguing whether or not the "joke" in question was intended to be pro-life or pro-choice, I think waiting for some clarity of intention would have been the right course of action.
I'm also considering the impact it might have on a writer to have a misunderstanding like this go unchecked. I don't think that's unreasonable.
Sure. Unlike the reviewer, I correctly understood the reference and never assumed that the joke was ill-intentioned.
The problem is whether or not that line is indicative of the writing in the game, which a few reviewers have already noted as a sore spot.
Even if that line is intended to be funny, it simply isn't - it's nonsense, meaningless noise even in the context of psycho spouting it in battle. It's hard to fault the reviewer for trying make sense out something when they're not in on the non-joke.
But, if it's what the fans want....
Borderlands 3 |OT| Poop Jokes and Mommy Dearest References
Well BL TPS has worse humor than 2 so here's wondering if 3 really is the worst of the bunch.
I mean, unless that person hasn't played BL2, she is saying it's worse than BL2
The "well, borderlands humor isn't for everyone :) " hand waving in response to "Borderlands 3 thinks a penis drawn on a bathroom stall is the pinnacle of comedy" is wild.
That's fair enough. I won't pretend that the humor is anything but hit or miss for me when it comes to Borderlands. I just don't think it's fair to assume the worst right away when there could be multiple explanations like the one provided by the writer.
I was already rolling my eyes at Borderlands 2 humor in 2012. If the humor is more of the same as that then no thanks.
You are, but it is.
The point is you don't hear a line and think about anything than the line as a whole. You don't think "maybe this was two separate lines that randomly fellnin place and changed the meaning".
So as a single line it had a very clear meaning, whether the writer wanted that or not. The potential tone deafness was partly what was being called out.
Now, it happened to be that the lines randomly fell in place. But that is so random, that the consideration of that was impossible.
Again, the assumption was fair as was the response. None of this is hard.
Also this had me super worried until I realized she never played the others so it'll just be par for the course of hit or miss and not exceptionally worse than the others.
Let's be honest. The jokes in Borderlands have always been bad. It's mostly edgy comedy and references to pop culture. I've recently played through B2 and it's DLC with a friend and we had a lot of fun, but more because of how dumb everything was and not because it was actually funny. If this is more of the same then it'll be perfect.
Worth noting that in the following tweet she says she's never played the other BL games before so it seems like the style of humor simply didn't sit well with her. I think people who are used to BL won't really mind the jokes she doesn't like. I love the BL games but the humor has always been childish as hell since the very first game, and I'm just kind of used to it. Some of it makes me laugh, some of it makes me roll my eyes. It is what it is.
Woahhh not all penis drawings are created equal. Some are true art
Oof.
Seems like they should have hired whoever wrote Tales from the Borderlands to handle the writing of this one. I thought it was a bit worrying when they said that they were gonna return to the humour of BL1 which until General Knoxx was the weakest in the series in terms of comedic effect, after that comes BL2 that has at least Handsome Jack who is amazing and the Torque DLC and last Pre-Sequel which was....eh, had moments.
Tales from the Boderlands however should be the gold standard of what humour it could have.
Seems like they should have hired whoever wrote Tales from the Borderlands to handle the writing of this one. I thought it was a bit worrying when they said that they were gonna return to the humour of BL1 which until General Knoxx was the weakest in the series in terms of comedic effect, after that comes BL2 that has at least Handsome Jack who is amazing and the Torque DLC and last Pre-Sequel which was....eh, had moments.
Tales from the Boderlands however should be the gold standard of what humour it could have.
I do understand what you mean but I don't agree with what you're saying. Even if we take the lines together, one of them is a reference to an old movie. So if you take that into consideration, there's probably more to it than a bad abortion joke. And like I said in another comment, people were even arguing whether the "joke' was meant to be pro-choice or pro-life. So that single line obviously didn't have a very clear meaning after all. So the assumptions were not fair to the writer. None of this is hard.
Except you exclude intent vs impact, and the fact it doesn't matter what the writer might have intended, the fact was it ALSO makes a very clear reference to abortions as a whole line... and there was no way to realize it was not a whole line.
That tone deaf writing was what was being called out. You'll find that even the articles says "it may mean this... OR".
I don't get why you can't see this. It's not debatable.
You're acting like people here were going after the writer rather than just saying that it was a bad joke.
I mean, it is kind of funny, so waveth my hand I do. Begone lesser opinion, be gone from me.
Well since it's not debatable then I guess that's that.
Putting ill-intentions onto the dialogue is the same thing as putting them onto the writer of that dialogue.
They were not saying it was definitely one thing.
They were saying, as a single line, it has one meaning that can't be ignored. Even if the intent was not that, it is tone deaf at best and at worst is an awful abortion joke.
I think you understand this and don't want to concede.
What's the benchmark for good story telling in this style of looter game? Diablo 3? Destiny? Anthem? Do any of them have a story that's worth a shit?
Listen to it on the background while you shooty shooty bang bang give me guns boyyyyyyyy.
Although BL2 had a pretty decent story.
I wouldn't say any of them are amazingly well written, but they're way less in-your-face with their shit than the Borderlands series. Destiny got some heavy criticism when they made ghost more talkative/jokey and then again when they had a second ghost show up for a bit in Destiny 2.
I agree. The jokes were mostly lame, but it had a good villain and decent side quest storylines. More than I can say for Diablo 3's story.
Diablo 2 over Diablo 3 any day of the week, but... I don't know. I don't exactly play a lot of these. I know Diablo 3 was bad and Borderlands 1 was bland and Borderlands 2 was obnoxious.
At the time of release, BL2's story was hyped up as a much needed improvement on 1.
Tales form the Borderlands was well written.
So expectations were a certain way I think, even though you're correct that story is never a plus point in this type of game.
Borderlands 2 is personally my favorite of the series. Everyone has different tastes.
Oh god, Sagira was one of the worst Destiny characters. She did have an unintentionally funny moment though when she screeched "ITS GOT MEEEEEE". The delivery of that line was so bad I think I was ballin' my eyes out for like five straight minutes.
My lowkey favourite thing about review threads is noting all the people who fanatically defend a game (they haven't played) to the death from 'unfair criticism' like how its quests aren't repetitive or whatever, and then seeing them pop up in the OT or a LTTP later saying how they liked it but the quests were really repetitive, etc...
ha, I wasn't even talking about Sagira. Dropped D2 before that dlc. I was talking about Failsafe.
LATER HATERS
Such epic writing.
So the B3 is the same stype as the previous Borderlands games correct?
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I'm a simple man with simple pleasures. One of them is juvenile humor.
I'm a simple man with simple pleasures. One of them is juvenile humor.