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Thurman's rusty, over thinks and could easily get out worked by Pac
The only reason I give Thurman the edge is because of him being a big welterweight and him being accurate when he chooses his shots
You mean the same Pacman that got outworked by Jeff Horn? C'mon now. Prime Welterweight Pacman, sure would win, but not this past his prime Pac.
I like Broner and was really excited for him in ~2013, but he turned out to be style over substance unfortunately. I'll check out this fight's highlights later but he was never going to win this. Gotta commend him for taking hard fight after hard fight though. The guy sure gets a lot of shit despite fighting the best.
Broner's issue is he only has one gear and he's content fighting at that pace whether he wins or loses. He has absolutely no sense of urgency when he's behind any feel of whether he's losing a fight.
If anything, his response was 100times more entertaining than anything he did in the fight. That's why he keeps getting big fights despite losing.
Just tuned in. Thurman seems to be landing more, but Lopez's punches seem to hit much harder.
No he hasn't, he's been on a 2 year layoff. LOL Spence would always be the favorite against Thurman.
I got keith beating spence, he has better boxing skills and spence doesnt move his head. He gets hit a lot going forward.
Nah, I got Spence all the way. Spence is faster and has better power too.
It's not just the layoff. He's looked beatable in at least his last couple fights before this. Top competition and all with Garcia and Porter, but he just hasn't looked impressive in a long while now... Tends to be forced on his bicycle in the latter half of fights.
Now after the layoff, a gatekeeper like Lopez nearly had him.
I dont' think that's because he was slipping, but him reaching the peak of his powers against better opposition. Some holes in his game start getting exposed.
Same might happen to Spence. Who knows.
In Thurman's defense, he's more battle tested at Welterweight against better opposition than Sepnce is. Spence just looks overall better.
Yeah, I don't see how anybody can use this fight as any type of metric besides shaking off ring rust for Thurman.
I still think Manny would lose. Thurman would outwork and outbox Manny at this stage in Manny's career.
hmm i think manny still wins, people are underestimating manny just looking at a number. He looks fairly the same still.
I mean he still looks like a good boxer but he is a shadow of his prime
No he doesn't look the same. I think you're overestimating his wins over Broner and Matthysse. Old Pacquaio would've destoryed Jeff Horn like Crawford did.
That is why I said fairly, not the exact same but has surprisingly good speed and power still. skills still there,etc
Yeah, he's still a top welterweight. It's just the youth of the other top welterweights will definitely come into play. I would pick Thurman, Spence, and Crawford over Pacquaio. Pacquaio would have a good shot at beating Garcia, Porter, Brook, Khan, but he could run the risk of losing those fights as well.
Manny doesn't look far off from post-prime, 2010's Manny. You'd think he'd be shot at this point, but he's still mostly there.
It's the Manny before this decade that was an entirely different beast.
It's the Manny before this decade that was an entirely different beast.
I do think the Matthysse and Broner fights are helping him look better at his age than he actually is. I believe the Jeff Horn loss and getting outworked by him is more indicative of where Manny is. That fight shouldn't have been close.
DAZN has the worst broadcast team assembled. Its worth paying ten dollars for Camelo v Jacobs but the commentating is garbage. They should hire Roy Jones.