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Bravely Default II - Embark on your journey Trailer (Demo [And Survey] Available Now)
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From what we know, doesn't seem like it, but there'll probably be some references.
But it's not a Bravely Second situation that was a direct sequel.
Yeah, this needs quite a few tweaks. Enemies are too fast on the overworld and the attack to hit them first is pretty much worthless. Plus, I feel like they should have started with a standard difficulty just like they did with the first Octopath Traveler demo because this might be a bit too frustrating for newcomers (It's already frustrating for me).
I really hope they manage to fix all these issues before release this year.
I really hope they manage to fix all these issues before release this year.
I've got to say, perhaps the biggest issue with the demo from a gameplay perspective is the on-screen encounters. They can work well depending on execution, but the execution here is sorely lacking. It's a stark step down from the customizable random encounter system of the previous games. It's actually a case-in-point of how visible encounters aren't inherently better than random ones, despite what some loudly proclaim.
Some enemies are far too fast, the player turns far too slowly, and the sword swing's hitbox is also rather small with considerable delay. All that adds up to the player failing to preempt and instead getting opened up on a lot of the time. And with enemies hitting as ludicrously hard as they do... that's not great.
I'd do two things to improve it, assuming they want to stick with visible encounters:
Some enemies are far too fast, the player turns far too slowly, and the sword swing's hitbox is also rather small with considerable delay. All that adds up to the player failing to preempt and instead getting opened up on a lot of the time. And with enemies hitting as ludicrously hard as they do... that's not great.
I'd do two things to improve it, assuming they want to stick with visible encounters:
- Make the player turn instantly.
- Make sword strikes knock monsters out, rather than immediately trigger a preemptive encounter.
- This allows the player to pick and choose which encounters they want to fight.
one of the dudes accents is so strong i can barely understand them, thats how i know i'm gonna love the localisation lmao
I'm getting my arse handed to me by this demo. Just got my third Game Over...
I hate how the game accepts further inputs when holding down the button, because I keep pressing just long enough to trigger stuff I don't want.
I like pretty much everything else though. Framerate could do with some work, but it's not a big deal.
I hate how the game accepts further inputs when holding down the button, because I keep pressing just long enough to trigger stuff I don't want.
I like pretty much everything else though. Framerate could do with some work, but it's not a big deal.
YesThis is good? You unironically find it spectacular? Like, legitimately on the same pedestal than Bravely Default?
Yea I beat him in 7 turns I believe
Lv 18 Seth
Main: Lv 7 Vanguard
Sub: Lv 2 Freelancer (for blind)
Abilities: Further Favour and BP by Default (Both Vanguard)
Lv 18 Gloria
Main: Lv 7 White Mage
Sub: Lv 7 Black Mage
Abilities: Grace of Angels and Uncanny Economy (Both White Mage)
Lv 18 Adelle
Main: Lv 7 Monk
Sub: Lv 1 White Mage
Abilities: Bare Knuckle Brawler and Revenge (Both Monk)
Lv 18 Elvis
Main: Lv 7 White Mage
Sub: Lv 7 Black Mage
Abilities: Grace of Angels and Uncanny Economy
I also got the best armor I could get for everyone
Only just started playing. Is the menu screen outstretching your tv screen? Not sure what to change here =/
Edit - had to fix overscan. All good now!
Anyway, the UI and everything else so far has been insanely gorgeous! Loving the return to this series!
Edit - had to fix overscan. All good now!
Anyway, the UI and everything else so far has been insanely gorgeous! Loving the return to this series!
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Gorgeous game, by all accounts. Compressed screenshots can't fully capture how great this little clay artstyle looks.
that being said either im very rusty or the demo is fucking hard
that being said either im very rusty or the demo is fucking hard
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Finally downed the boss. Had to level up to 17
Went with a comp of Vanguard, Monk, Monk, White Mage
Went with a comp of Vanguard, Monk, Monk, White Mage
I wonder if the full game will have some sort of social element like the 3ds games. Also hoping for a bestiary/journal.
Okay I'm further in and...why are these bees killing me?
They did say the demo is harder than the actual game.
Gorgeous game, by all accounts. Compressed screenshots can't fully capture how great this little clay artstyle looks.
that being said either im very rusty or the demo is fucking hard
They did say the demo is harder than the actual game.
Making a demo harder seems weird to me, I bet it'll turn a lot of people off, regardless of the disclaimer.
Anyway, I only just started, but wow, everyone looks so good in all their outfits! White Mage and Monk look spectacular on everyone.
Anyway, I only just started, but wow, everyone looks so good in all their outfits! White Mage and Monk look spectacular on everyone.
My prediction is that the actual game will release and people will complain about it being easy or something.
Mark my words.
Mark my words.
the hand drawings are lovely, very FFXII, I just wish that they translated to the 3D characters like that. FFXIIachieved it, this doesn't.
If this isn't a slice of the main game, chances are they'll resubmit to the ESRB later with footage of the retail game.
Gorgeous game, by all accounts. Compressed screenshots can't fully capture how great this little clay artstyle looks.
that being said either im very rusty or the demo is fucking hard
Gorgeous
Maybe I am overthinking it but as much as I think the game looks good (graphically), it feels like a HD version of the 3DS games instead of a new design and style created for an HD home console. I get that feeling from a lot of Switch games.
Beat the demo! It wasn't actually that hard once you truly get how Brave/Default works again. Took me a little less than three hours, ended at lvl 19.
Beat the boss, I feel like I was missing something because it took foreeever and I only won because he ran out of MP lol.
I like how the job designs are so different from the 3DS. They all look great. Who would've thought that's what the female thief looked like?
I like how the job designs are so different from the 3DS. They all look great. Who would've thought that's what the female thief looked like?
Yeah, the beginning especially.
Think I like this better too, feel like it's gonna be a really catchy theme.
Gorgeous game, by all accounts. Compressed screenshots can't fully capture how great this little clay artstyle looks.
that being said either im very rusty or the demo is fucking hard
Why does Adelle have two different spellings in those screenshot?
'cause i was playing the game in french but then switched to english for a moment to see which version i like better
really agree with you honestly. The original was fucking gorgeous. Actually had solid art direction, great colors, models, etc. This one, holy shit was I disappointed as soon as I saw it. It looks a tad better than the reveal but really the visuals lost all their charm to me. For many people resolution (and many times, realism) is enough to make them think the graphics are better. I'm happy for people that are digging this, and while I still have my eye on the game, it really does look like a hard miss visually
that being said, I'll try the demo soon and will probably have a better impression once I see it on the handheld screen
I'm going to agree with the sentiment others here have mentioned: why bother increasing the difficulty of a demo to begin with? You're more likely to turn people away, then you are keep them interested. But you needn't talk about its supposed difficulty to spot some really odd design choices here:
- Why is there such a massive gap in damage output between an enemy's regular attacks and their (I'm guessing) specials/abilities? It can go from 40-50 to around 700 depending on what they use which I think is way too high a contrast. Same for the boss, which isn't helped by the fact that he practically heals all damage received with one of his special attacks. I'm also guessing the purple energy that spews out is meant to signify them using a special attack - just like how blue and red signifies Default and Brave moves respectively. But why bother - you can't prepare for that, so what's the point with that effect?
- Secondly, in regards to enemies on the map/overworld, I feel like there's so many elements working against and contradicting one another. Also with enemies respawning constantly, I'm finding it relatively easy to flee battles upon which said enemy just disappears from the world. So why bother having so many to engage with? If you can attack enemies and potentially gain a free turn + BP, why are there inconsistencies on where you strike an enemy? Sometimes I can hit them on the side, from behind, or not at all and that can vary a lot on what exactly I start a battle with. Is it purely random. Also also, why do they respawn so close and rapidly even after such a short trek. I found myself having to deal with four wolves in that cliff area that leads to a chest/dead-end, because they just kept appearing.
- Thirdly, enemies in dungeons either need to be highlighted on the map, or there should be some alert that one is charging towards you, because I've lost count of the amount of times one has attacked me from off-screen or, again, just spawned in place without giving me much time to react.
- Fourthly, I'd rather there be some kind of consistency with how many enemies you deal with in combat. Again, the game seems to jump from 3 to 6 to 4 to 6 back down to 3 and then to 5 - sometimes with relatively weak enemies, sometimes being purely a mix of those damn insects and snakes - yet battles are either easy to get to or are a challenge in having not to constantly heal party members because of such high damage output from certain enemies.
Bravely Second is the Final Fantasy X-2 to Bravely Default's Final Fantasy X, while this seems to be a different final fantasy altogether (in keeping up with the analogy).
I would be actually very happy if the series keeps being successful and we get Bravely III, IV and so on as the current spiritual successors of the old final fantasies, while FF turns and evolves into its own thing
Wrote a list of feedback I have so far:
-Default should be mapped to L just like Brave is mapped to R similar to previous BD games
-Implement a turn order bar, if you want this game to be more strategic allow us to strategize on whos turn is coming instead of taking a shot in the dark, blind strategy is much more difficult and less engaging especially since turns aren't the same as previous BD games
-Make sneaking from behind more reliable, currently feels like enemies catch us event when we think we're in a decent position behind them
-Add some damage to the enemy if we hit them with the sword in the overworld, more rewarding and it doesn't have to be a lot
-Add an option that lets us see a full map but keep the chests hidden, its just harder to see where we're going with how small the map is and increasing its size with R obscures the view to much
-More optimization in both docked and undocked, primarily undocked with the lack of anti-aliasing
-Options for more font sizes, the font is to small for some people in docked so we'd like to be able to increase font size
-Please please please PLEASE add voice acting for the party talk skit segments, they'd be so much more enjoyable and we'd feel a lot more connection to the characters
-Clean up some visual glitches like enemy sweat drops staying on screen even when you beat them and enemies not having the black cloud over their eyes in certain instances when blinded
-Let us skip battle intros by pressing A during it like previous BD games, they're charming but after a point they take too long to always sit through
Unsure if I'm missing anything (this is based on my own experience)
-Default should be mapped to L just like Brave is mapped to R similar to previous BD games
-Implement a turn order bar, if you want this game to be more strategic allow us to strategize on whos turn is coming instead of taking a shot in the dark, blind strategy is much more difficult and less engaging especially since turns aren't the same as previous BD games
-Make sneaking from behind more reliable, currently feels like enemies catch us event when we think we're in a decent position behind them
-Add some damage to the enemy if we hit them with the sword in the overworld, more rewarding and it doesn't have to be a lot
-Add an option that lets us see a full map but keep the chests hidden, its just harder to see where we're going with how small the map is and increasing its size with R obscures the view to much
-More optimization in both docked and undocked, primarily undocked with the lack of anti-aliasing
-Options for more font sizes, the font is to small for some people in docked so we'd like to be able to increase font size
-Please please please PLEASE add voice acting for the party talk skit segments, they'd be so much more enjoyable and we'd feel a lot more connection to the characters
-Clean up some visual glitches like enemy sweat drops staying on screen even when you beat them and enemies not having the black cloud over their eyes in certain instances when blinded
-Let us skip battle intros by pressing A during it like previous BD games, they're charming but after a point they take too long to always sit through
Unsure if I'm missing anything (this is based on my own experience)
If I haven't played it in forever and mostly forgot about the characters and not really bothered to buy bravely second or play 3ds is it still worth it? If so I'll buy it but just wondering how much I'm missing out on when I could skip to bravely default 2.
I think it'll be fine. BD II seems to borrow the aesthetics and gameplay of the original BD but in a completely new world and with new characters. Doubt that people who've played all games will have gained anything other than more familiarity with the mechanics of the game.
Bravely Second took place in an expanded version of the first game's world and had a bunch of returning characters, and even then it stood on its own with a story that didn't rely in important ways to the story of the first game.
Bravely Second ending spoilers:
Though it was revealed in the end that Ringabel can travel through dimensions and there's the "sword of the brave" business that ended the game on a cliffhanger. I wonder if there are plans for a Bravely Third, or if BD II will end up not being in as much of a different universe as we think
Yeah, this was a jarring change for me. I noticed it instantly. Like you, I'm trying not to judge right now. But I hope they change it back
Battle system is still a lot of fun and the boss battle was really enjoyable! Ended up with two monks and two white mages. Poison chipped away at him and the damage output of the monks is a wee bit broken but i'll take it for how difficult the game was against large mobs early on. Some bits of the UI during battles could be spruced up like the red text for damage could be more highlighted and an icon beside the character your selecting for heals as oppose to just the yellow outer glow but overall its got me excited for this entry! Really enjoyed the first game but burnt out on bravely second might finish it before this...
I loved the demo, but the game really need both a turn order ui and an enemy buff and debuff status bar similar to the 3ds games, it's next to impossible to predict when they run out. Sometimes it feels like it lasts 4 turns, others not even a turn
The stories are intentionally cliche in the beginning, but then they swerve into something memorable. It gets cheesy or campy sometimes. You'll like it if that's within your tastes.
I personally like their stories. I hope BD2 is less like Octopath and more like BD1 and Second
Hm, maybe my tastes have changed. Demo wasn't clicking for me.... battle system is fine, but the game looks cheap. IDK, something about the fonts and character models puts me off. Going to keep looking into it though.
The game looks fantastic especially the town, battle system is great too. These fucking bees though....
