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BREAKING: Alabama lawmakers vote to effectively totally ban Abortion in the state

Dec 3, 2018
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#1
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/14/us/abortion-law-alabama.html

MONTGOMERY, Ala. — The Alabama Senate approved a measure on Tuesday that would outlaw almost all abortions in the state, setting up a direct challenge to Roe v. Wade, the case that recognized a woman’s constitutional right to end a pregnancy.
The legislation bans abortions at every stage of pregnancy and criminalizes the procedure for doctors, who could be charged with felonies and face up to 99 years in prison. It includes an exception for cases when the mother’s life is at serious risk, but not for cases of rape or incest — a subject of fierce debate among lawmakers in recent days.
Direct challenge to Roe v Wade
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I doubt that this will even make it to the Supreme Court, unless there's some kind of major fuckery at the appellate level.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,522
#11
Good thing that Brett Kavanaugh is such a fan of stare decisis...

I will never forgive a single Trump voter for what they’ve done to this country.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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#13
Man, I hope all the people who stayed home or convinced themselves that Hilary was just as bad as trump really consider how bad this is going’s to get. Cavanaugh is on the Supreme Court and it’s no longer equal. This is a direct challenge to roe v wade. This is the alignment that conservatives have had a hard on for since I was a kid. This is really really really bad. People need to not be fence sitters come 2020.

Don’t even get me started on the hypocrisy of pro life people. They care about babies in the womb but the minute they’re born, fuck em. They cut food stamps, medical services for pregnant women, etc. Fucking sanctimonious hypocrites.
 
Oct 29, 2017
1,524
#18
"Yeah but if such and such Dem isn't the nominee I'm staying home..."

Fuck you people.

I doubt that this will even make it to the Supreme Court, unless there's some kind of major fuckery at the appellate level.
Outcome you're predicting is Appellate court upholds Roe v W and Supreme Court declines to hear an appeal?
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,251
#19
The Democrats should just expand and fill the courts at this point. Worst case scenario the Republicans will do the same once they get back in power, but even then, having control of the Supreme Court for 4-8 years is better than letting it be lost for the next 50 years.

If the SC breaks down as a functioning institution, good. Then you can reform it.
 
Nov 1, 2017
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I don't know if even as conservative as the current court is they would take this case.

It's so covered by existing precedent that even the conservative leaning court would probably not take it up after it's overturned by a lower court.

I expect the Republican play to be one of the heartbeat laws in Ohio or Georgia.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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#33
You cannot ban abortions, you can only ban SAFE abortions. Conservatives should be ashamed of themselves but of course they aren't, they'd better consider programs to help these women who are now forced to carry these children if they are truly prolife.
 
Oct 25, 2017
6,521
North Jackson High
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I don't know if even as conservative as the current court is they would take this case.

It's so covered by existing precedent that even the conservative leaning court would probably not take it up after it's overturned by a lower court.

I expect the Republican play to be one of the heartbeat laws in Ohio or Georgia.
The heartbeat law does have at least something of a legal footing based on shifting definitions of fetal viability.

The key is Roberts, who it seems does not want the court to become a kludge to be used in lieu of the legislative process. He's content to chew around the edges but not to make bald-faced power-grabs.

You cannot ban abortions, you can only ban SAFE abortions. Conservatives should be ashamed of themselves but of course they aren't, they'd better consider programs to help these women who are now forced to carry these children if they are truly prolife.
You can ban the unsafe ones by mandating that all miscarriages be medically investigated and the doctor is obligated to report self-abortions to the cops.
 
Oct 25, 2017
6,707
#38
Alabama just doing what it would if there was no Federal power to keep it in check. Probably one of the most corrupt and shitty state governments in the US.
 

Kyra

The Eggplant Queen
Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,768
New York City
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I ain't responsible for shit, I voted for Hillary.
So did I. I could have done more. I Could have triend to persuade family members to not buy into Trumps trash. I could have gone to more protests. I could have been a louder voice. I could have made more sacrifices for whats right.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I think Roe will be effectively neutered when the SC upholds a bunch of heartbeat bills, but I don't think the current court will even accept this. Part me wants to see how this issue would quickly destroy republicans if abortion was actually outlawed completely, but hundreds of thousands of women would be put in jeopardy so not worth it.
 

plagiarize

Untethered
Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
6,904
Cape Cod, MA
#44
They have voted to force rape victims to carry children to full term.

No man should be allowed to vote to make someone suffer something they never ever ever have to fear.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Everything is falling apart so quickly. Fuck every Trump voter, I will curse what they've done to this country and the planet with my dying breath.
 
Oct 25, 2017
6,031
#49
Just remember they're not pro-life they're anti-women.

They'll do anything for the unborn but once you're born you're fucked.