Breaking: Charges dropped in case against Jussie Smollett. (See Staff Post)

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Slayven

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I'm just stating the specific circumstances in which a case would be completely dropped.

The Chacago PD were incredibly zealous in promoting their investigation publically. They didn't say Smollet was a suspect, they outright declared that he did it at numerous poimts. So it's likely that the evidence they built their case on either isn't good enough, or is made up/inadmissable.
I am just saying anyone shocked about the CPD fucking up really shouldn't be
 

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He left a goddamn noose on him for what half an hour+?

He faked that shit guilty af

I'm more interested in HOW the CPD botched it to this degree
 

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I keep seeing people bring up that he said the attacker’s were white, is this really true? I can’t seem to get a straight answer. :/
White, Maga Hats and yelled "this is MAGA country!!" In a progressive section of Chicwgo during a polar vortex when no one else was outside at 2 in the morning.

Let's not forget that this two brothers would probably break his glass jaw if they were there to really beat him up.

The most unbelievable part would be these two attackers realized it was that "(racist term) from Empire"

No one cared about this dude enough to recognize him come on.

The whole set up smelled of ego stroking from the jump.
 
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For me these kind of stories make me respond with "this country is rotten to it's core and something needs to change." I am so angered by them it's paralyzing. I don't comment in a lot of Trump threads either for the same reason, my mind can't take how furious it all makes me.

A story like this is fascinating because it's so strange, it's a lot easier to discuss. I'm certainly not angry that a black man may have gotten off for a crime, I really don't care.. Jussie could have gotten his bond back and I still wouldn't have been angry, he's not an important "criminal" if he was/is one to me.

I dunno, maybe a lame explanation and I only speak for myself.. you will occasionally see me post in the above kinds of threads you linked, but what more is there to say other than "this is infuriating"?
Maybe we should think/talk about how ignoring the bad things but boosting the "sexy" scandalized stories makes us somewhat if not totally complicit

The reason I wanted to post those stories is because I felt like they would fly under the radar and not be talked about or acknowledged at all. Me posting them again in here is still trying to do that.

We shouldn't need footage of police killing innocent people and/or dead bodies to discuss police corruption
 

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I still can’t reconcile this scenario with him telling the police that his attackers were white. How do you explain that unless Jussie was involved?
"He asserted that he could see one of the men was white because he could see the skin around his eyes."

Jussie also said they were wearing ski masks, so his only view of their skin appears to be the holes in the ski masks, which can cause visual obstruction. It's possible they were wearing makeup or that he simply was wrong in his observation due to the craziness of being attacked.

I mean, these guys were amatuer actors too and they bought stuff at a store ahead of time to plan the whole thing. They also went full MAGA on him with racial and gay slurs, so.... I mean, they clearly know how to play the media.

It's not out of the realm of possibility that people just assumed a lot of the facts based on a shoddy police report/interview with a shaken victim who was under suspicion right off the bat.

He knew his attackers. They knew his schedule. He's worked with them before, on the show and with personal training. It would be easy for them to track him down and pull this off without it being a staged attack. And without Jussie accusing them because - why would they want to beat him up, unless they were planning on dragging him for more money? And then to use it to throw Jussie under the bus if the heat got too close to exposing them, which they did.

All of this is within the realm of possibility.

As fucked up as it all seems, he may actually be telling the truth!
 

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Besides everything else, this does not inspire great confidence in the CPD's ability to resolve actual hate crime related matters.
I really dont think these dropped charges had anything to do with CPD.

Smollets family got exposed directly texting the State Attorney Kim Fox by the Chicago Tribune lobbying for this case to be moved or dropped. CPD called Fox out on this. She was forced to recuse herself from the case.

Except she apparently never did and she announced the charges have been dropped without even notifying CPD.

It reeks of political favor.
 

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I’m gonna go and say that this is probably more O.J than Duke Lacrosse.

But mostly I’m just confused as shit
 
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Can someone please explain to me what the Nigerian brothers had to gain in all of this assuming Smollett really was the victim?
 

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The count is like 5 million Vs. 2 at the moment

But now we wanna talk about acceptability...

Nobody saying he ain't liable or possibly guilty

Where's this energy for John Crawford's caller who got him killed?
For the white people using police as a bully force over nothing?

Y'all so damn selective that it just makes me laugh at it all
It is pretty telling that this story has more uproar and outrage than Antifa having to expose a school police officer being a white supremacist recruiter https://www.resetera.com/threads/vi...-recruiter-of-white-nationalist-group.106492/

or the cops who framed a man for murder and was allowed to retire without punishment

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sa...on-to-man-framed-by-police-for-murder.106487/

or the cop who was promoted to police chief after posting and defending an overtly racist meme
https://www.resetera.com/threads/lo...hief-after-sharing-racist-meme-online.107345/
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Can someone please explain to me what the Nigerian brothers had to gain in all of this assuming Smollett really was the victim?
More money?

I mean, indirectly, they may have decided themselves to make Jussie a hate crime victim to get him to hire them as full time bodyguards? Or more physical training with them for self-defense?

I mean, anything is possible.
 

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I really dont think these dropped charges had anything to do with CPD.

Smollets family got exposed directly texting the State Attorney Kim Fox by the Chicago Tribune lobbying for this case to be moved or dropped. CPD called Fox out on this. She was forced to recuse herself from the case.

Except she apparently never did and she announced the charges have been dropped without even notifying CPD.

It reeks of political favor.
Oh, wtf that's some bullshit if true. Wow.
 

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I'm so confused. So was he really attacked? Did the cops try to frame him? Or is this just some weird misunderstanding thing. Even so, if it was, shouldn't the people that attacked him be charged? Or is something more sinister going on?
 

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The whiplash from this story tho... from hate crime to fake hate crime to looking at possibly years in prison to released free of charges... my head hurts.
 

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Good. He didn't need a jail cell, just counselling and mental healing. But its not even a sure thing that he coordinated anything or that they could prove that conclusively at all. Should sue the fuck out of the dept tbh.
 

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I'm so confused. So was he really attacked? Did the cops try to frame him? Or is this just some weird misunderstanding thing. Even so, if it was, shouldn't the people that attacked him be charged?
Nobody knows for sure.

Jussie never changed his story though. So, it's possible the two Nigerian guys set him up and the whole thing was their idea and people just assumed Jussie staged the whole thing since the "vengeful black/gay celebrity looking for more money on Empire and attention" motif seems the easiest explanation.

Occam's razor isn't always as sharp as it intends to be. Sometimes shit really IS complicated and elaborate.

But, again, who knows.
 

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More money?

I mean, indirectly, they may have decided themselves to make Jussie a hate crime victim to get him to hire them as full time bodyguards? Or more physical training with them for self-defense?

I mean, anything is possible.
The brothers' attorney straight up said that they accepted money to perpetrate the attack. That much is indisputable. I don't know what the hell happened in between then and now but I suspect Chicago-tier corruption shenanigans.
 

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The brothers' attorney straight up said that they accepted money to perpetrate the attack. That much is indisputable. I don't know what the hell happened in between then and now but I suspect Chicago-tier corruption shenanigans.
And you believe lawyers and two dudes who beat a guy for money to be honest and truthful?

Where did the money come from? Did he write them a check? How do you prove the money was for a staged attack? What if the money was for something else and they are just saying it was for the attack since it's a convenient alibi to save their own asses?

How much money was it again? $3,500? Seems kinda low, doesn't it?

I'm going full Perry Mason on this case.

lol

I think he might actually be innocent now. But I need more info.
 

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The brothers' attorney straight up said that they accepted money to perpetrate the attack. That much is indisputable. I don't know what the hell happened in between then and now but I suspect Chicago-tier corruption shenanigans.
That does not make it indisputable. They have differing interests and would have/should have presented that. People continuing to assume conspiracies is wild.
 

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Good. He didn't need a jail cell, just counselling and mental healing. But its not even a sure thing that he coordinated anything or that they could prove that conclusively at all. Should sue the fuck out of the dept tbh.
And sending fake anthrax? Who should be sued over that? This starts and stops with Kim Foxx, friend of his family who can recused herself one minute and throw her weight around the next.
 

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Oh, wtf that's some bullshit if true. Wow.
Here is Fox recusing herself:
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/kim-foxx-jussie-smollett-recused-506070211.html?amp=y

Here is the Sun-Times story on why she recused herself....Smollets family reached out to her directly and they had spoken. Foxx then wanted the case moved away from CPD, which Smollets family had requested: https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/r...de-smollett-relative-reached-out-to-kim-foxx/

Here's CPD being pissed about that: https://wgntv.com/2019/03/19/chicag...o-kim-foxxs-handling-of-jussie-smollett-case/

Kim Foxx Office today
After reviewing all of the facts and circumstances of the case, including Mr. Smollett’s volunteer service in the community and agreement to forfeit his bond to the City of Chicago, we believe this outcome is a just disposition and appropriate resolution to this case," according to a statement from the office of the Cook County State's Attorney Kim Foxx, sent to USA TODAY by her spokeswoman, Tandra Simonton.
CPD reaction today
"Sources tell CBS 2 that CPD Superintendent Eddie Johnson is furious and that he received no notification about the charges being dropped." https://t.co/DYurx1a4rP
I dont know. This timeline to me reeks of political favor called in and then two political entities trying to show each other up which resulted in the decision today.
 

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Here is Fox recusing herself:
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/kim-foxx-jussie-smollett-recused-506070211.html?amp=y

Here is the Sun-Times story on why she recused herself....Smollets family reached out to her directly and they had spoken: https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/r...de-smollett-relative-reached-out-to-kim-foxx/

Here's CPD being pissed about that: https://wgntv.com/2019/03/19/chicag...o-kim-foxxs-handling-of-jussie-smollett-case/

Kim Foxx Office today


CPD reaction today


I dont know. This timeline to me reeks of political favor called in and then two political entities trying to show each other up which resulted in the decision today.
A timeline doesn't prove anything. When you are looking for a conspiracy it is easy to find.
 

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Y’all saying he’ll never act again, dude could make a killing playing hateable villains for the rest of his life.
 

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"Known information" means nothing in this thread. "Known information" is apparently any conclusion anyone in here wants to draw.
 
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