Like 50 hospital emoyees getting fired for looking at Jussie's medical recordsI'm trying to avoid diving into the conspiracy nonsense, but I wouldn't be surprised if this was close to the truth.
I mean, regardless of what side you fell on in this mess, the one thing I think everyone agreed on at one point or another was how weird it was that we kept getting so many leaks in real time. It was clear somebody was fucking up.
I know I am enjoying myself seeing the right wingers se the justice system let a black man through the cracks for once.you sound kinda happy a rich actor got away with faking a hate crime
how come
you weren't one of those that actually believed him were you?
Are they fucking serious?CNN is literally talking about Foxx and the state department for the last 30 minutes.
That + the M Night twists = the most entertaining story of 2019I know I am enjoying myself seeing the right wingers se the justice system let a black man through the cracks for once.
At this point we don't even know if there was a hate crime. It appears that the two men who worked on Empire that the media largely thought to be the perpetrators are still free.So at this point, the two people who committed the hate crime are still just out on the streets?
We were talking about grand juries unless you think Jussie was never guilty ?
This is a bad take. I too enjoy seeing Trumpers get owned in various ways but not at the expense of justice.I know I am enjoying myself seeing the right wingers se the justice system let a black man through the cracks for once.
...because all the hype and "celebration" around those three was because they pled guilty, not because they were indicted.We were talking about grand juries unless you think Jussie was never guilty ?
Completely agree.I mean, regardless of what side you fell on in this mess, the one thing I think everyone agreed on at one point or another was how weird it was that we kept getting so many leaks in real time. It was clear somebody was fucking up.
They literally did it, though.At this point we don't even know if there was a hate crime. It appears that the two men who worked on Empire that the media largely thought to be the perpetrators are still free.
It was a good 30 minutes of "none of this makes sense and something is off" talk. Then I had to go back into work. They were still perplexed when I got out my truck.
Well I hope we get some truth about what happened because the conservative conspiracy machine is in overdrive right now.If that were the case, the police wouldn't be asking for it to be unsealed.
This for sure.I mean, regardless of what side you fell on in this mess, the one thing I think everyone agreed on at one point or another was how weird it was that we kept getting so many leaks in real time. It was clear somebody was fucking up.
lol this is the most accurate summary of this whole shitshow thus farThis case isn’t complicated. Its dumb. Dumb celeb stages an event. Rahm Emmanuel stays shitty
Yep, there's two options: Hate crime or hoax. Those two guys already admitted to being part of the hoax. If you believe Jussie, then these two guys committed a hate crime instead.
I don't particularly care about what conservatives think about anything. They're the same idiots who think Newtown and Parkland were faked.Well I hope we get some truth about what happened because the conservative conspiracy machine is in overdrive right now.
Above all else, being rich is still the best leg up against the American Justice system.
Apparently not. It looks like Fox is going to continue along as if this whole thing never happened.
Oh, wow...Apparently not. It looks like Fox is going to continue along as if this whole thing never happened.
Sounds about right, yep. Although I think 20th Century Fox made a comment about being "gratified" that the charges were dropped. Not sure if that means they are considering bring him back on the show. I really hope not.
So, to summarize what I think I know about this right now:
Is that right?
- Smollett was not exonerated or found not guilty or anything
- The prosecution decided to take the [unusual] step of dropping the case in exchange for surrendered bail and a commitment to community service
- The Police Department and Mayor's Office were not informed beforehand and are furious
- He is still out of his job at 20th Century Fox
So: (1) guilty as fuck (2) good police work(which I dont buy since they're now investigating leaks in the department) (3) 10,000 dollars and picking up trash along the highway buys you a get out of jail card.
So, to summarize what I think I know about this right now:
Is that right?
- Smollett was not exonerated or found not guilty or anything
- The prosecution decided to take the [unusual] step of dropping the case in exchange for surrendered bail and a commitment to community service
- The Police Department and Mayor's Office were not informed beforehand and are furious
- He is still out of his job at 20th Century Fox
Lol, what did you expect. The case was dropped and he didn't plead guilty. His record is clean.
I am not under the illusion the justice system works as we like to imagine it does, seeing the Blue Lives matter people shook and realise this gives me life.This is a bad take. I too enjoy seeing Trumpers get owned in various ways but not at the expense of justice.
OJ will find themSo at this point, the two people who committed the hate crime are still just out on the streets?
That's something that I don't have a clear understanding about, because it seems both sides are claiming two different things.So, to summarize what I think I know about this right now:
Is that right?
- Smollett was not exonerated or found not guilty or anything
- The prosecution decided to take the [unusual] step of dropping the case in exchange for surrendered bail and a commitment to community service
- The Police Department and Mayor's Office were not informed beforehand and are furious
- He is still out of his job at 20th Century Fox
I believe they referenced the community service he already performed. That along with the money was what the state's attorney said was enough to drop all charges despite acknowledging good police work. Basically they're saying they know he did it, but he paid enough for his crimes.That's something that I don't have a clear understanding about, because it seems both sides are claiming two different things.
Earlier in the thread people said his lawyers, in addition to saying it wasn't a plea deal, claimed he was under no commitment to do community service.
What ever happened. I believe it WASN'T a plea deal, because I can't imagine any plea deal allowing him state in the media that he was completely truthful and innocent, which he did already today.
It's a great take because it doesn't even begin to tip the scales and people are still upset for some reason.This is a bad take. I too enjoy seeing Trumpers get owned in various ways but not at the expense of justice.
What a complete fucking shitshow.
So, to summarize what I think I know about this right now:
Is that right?
- Smollett was not exonerated or found not guilty or anything
- The prosecution decided to take the [unusual] step of dropping the case in exchange for surrendered bail and a commitment to community service
- The Police Department and Mayor's Office were not informed beforehand and are furious
- He is still out of his job at 20th Century Fox
Fucking wow....dont let these assholes near the r-kelly case
So, to summarize what I think I know about this right now:
Is that right?
- Smollett was not exonerated or found not guilty or anything
- The prosecution decided to take the [unusual] step of dropping the case in exchange for surrendered bail and a commitment to community service
- The Police Department and Mayor's Office were not informed beforehand and are furious
- He is still out of his job at 20th Century Fox
It's fucking nutty.
Based on Fox's tweets he hasn't been fired. They cut his scenes from the end of last season but there's been no official word of the fate of his character.
So, to summarize what I think I know about this right now:
Is that right?
- Smollett was not exonerated or found not guilty or anything
- The prosecution decided to take the [unusual] step of dropping the case in exchange for surrendered bail and a commitment to community service
- The Police Department and Mayor's Office were not informed beforehand and are furious
- He is still out of his job at 20th Century Fox
Not to make it sounds like this is okay, but this isn't atypical here. People get off with very little time, sometimes for extremely violent offenses. This is from a news article about a guy that just murdered an off-duty cop this week:So: (1) guilty as fuck (2) good police work(which I dont buy since they're now investigating leaks in the department) (3) 10,000 dollars and picking up trash along the highway buys you a get out of jail card.
I should correct myself and a couple other posters who said Jussie maintained his innocence in his statement today. That was wrong. My bad. He actually said "I've been truthful and consistent on every single level since day one".What ever happened. I believe it WASN'T a plea deal, because I can't imagine any plea deal allowing him state in the media that he was completely truthful and innocent, which he did already today.
The difference being the guy in your case admitted what he did. In this case, we have the accused refusing to admit it and the state's attorney admitting he thinks Jussie did it but he's still cool with letting him go. Why? We can't know that because they also decided to seal the decision.Not to make it sounds like this is okay, but this isn't atypical here. People get off with very little time, sometimes for extremely violent offenses. This is from a news article about a guy that just murdered an off-duty cop this week:
In that July 2017 incident, Jackson broke into the ex-girlfriend’s residence through a side window, pointed a gun to her head and threatened to kill her, according to court records. Jackson later pleaded guilty to attempted residential burglary and was given probation.
So I am surprised to see people involved with the Chicago machine being so up in arms over this. I'm even more annoyed at Rahm because I didn't see this same energy when it came out taxpayer paid over 100 million in police misconduct lawsuits last year. That's what he needs to be concerned and up in arms about.
It would totally pwn the conservatives if R Kelly got off.
“I would not be my mother’s son if I was capable of one drop of what I was being accused of,” he told reporters after a court hearing. He thanked the state of Illinois “for attempting to do what’s right.”I should correct myself and a couple other posters who said Jussie maintained his innocence in his statement today. That was wrong. My bad. He actually said "I've been truthful and consistent on every single level since day one".
I think he used some carefully crafted lawyer language to look as innocent as possible without actually saying he is innocent.
Who cares about the conservative media, they'd spin it in their favor either way.They said they did. Their attorney said they did for the check. For some reason that wasn't enough. We don't know why. They can say whatever they want.
... and may I ask, what is the link between R Kelly and Smollett?
Oh shit I missed that. Well with that and Magats saying he wasn't exonerated -- I give up. I have no clue what is going on. Tons of contradictions with all the parties involved.“I would not be my mother’s son if I was capable of one drop of what I was being accused of,” he told reporters after a court hearing. He thanked the state of Illinois “for attempting to do what’s right.”
That sounds like a profession of innocence to me
Because stoking the divide and using hate crimes as a prop is not a threatThe difference being the guy in your case admitted what he did. In this case, we have the accused refusing to admit it and the state's attorney admitting he thinks Jussie did it but he's still cool with letting him go. Why? We can't know that because they also decided to seal the decision.
They're being tried by the same office of Cook County under State Attorney Kim Foxx.... and may I ask, what is the link between R Kelly and Smollett?
You think these two things are in the same ballpark?