Breaking: Charges dropped in case against Jussie Smollett. (See Staff Post)

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Kin5290

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Oh, interesting. The article I read said $100k. Maybe that was a typo. Thanks for this info. I wonder what that changes.
He had a $100k bond, and usually 10% of that needs to be paid in cash, hence $10k.

So what even happened? From what I can tell Smollett is likely guilty but the prosecutor isn’t going to bother to go after him for whatever reason? Either the evidence is bad, or insufficient, or was thrown out for some reason? Or the prosecutor, who recused herself due to ties with Smollett, unrecused herself and then dropped the charges?
 

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There's no doubt they think/know he's guilty. If they didn't, they'd be charging the two brothers since that would have been a violent crime (if it was real). Will be interesting now to see what lawyers for non-violent criminals in Chicago try to do now that a precedent has not only been set, but outlined clearly by the DA.
They'll go back to the same shit they've always been doing. Prosecutorial discretion usually favors the rich, even when prosecutors try to correct for it.
 

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funny how the right-wing suddenly starts going off about the way you can pay your way out of accountability the minute it looks like it's a black dude doing it
 

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It honestly wouldn't surprise me at this point if Jussie ripped off his face and he revealed he was actually Vince McMahon

Like what the fuck
 

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He's not innocent, the cops completed their investigation and found strong evidence he faked it. The State Attorney's office looked at the case and decided it wasn't worth the effort to prosecute him, either because of the money that would be spent in the trial, the negative publicity that would hurt everyone involved with the case (CPD, Smollett, etc), perhaps it was a weak case that would be hard to prosecute, and the fact that Smollett is not a violent criminal and would be unlikely to offend again. Smollett is out 10 grand and some community service hours and the brothers won't get punished for anything beyond the night they spent in jail.
It’s really funny how a post saying there was no clear explanation was made and thread marked after this.
 

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The Chicago PD fulfilled a FOIA request right before the gag order hit. They put all their evidence out in the public domain.

This was done via the FOIA request. Still sour grapes but thats how they got the file.
 

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funny how the right-wing suddenly starts going off about the way you can pay your way out of accountability the minute it looks like it's a black dude doing it
i mean, a white kid paid a person to say that Robert Mueller raped her, published stories and was about to have a freaking press conference before the woman backed out (backed out while people were waiting at the press conference mind you) and he didn't even spend a single afternoon in jail, so... its not just rich people.
 

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It’s really funny how a post saying there was no clear explanation was made and thread marked after this.
It's not a clear explanation because it believes cops.

Smollett was attacked, cops lied to try and frame him because they're racists, and their lies can't support a court charge when the victim can get an attorney.
 

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It's not a clear explanation because it believes cops.

Smollett was attacked, cops lied to try and frame him because they're racists, and their lies can't support a court charge when the victim can get an attorney.
The attackers though...

Explain the motive behind the admitted attackers doing what they did if Jussie wasn't in on it? Maybe there is an explanation, but I can't fathom one.
 

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I don't even know anymore. Waiting for when he holds and press conference and starts levitating and reveals he's actually a wizard or something.
 

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It’s really funny how a post saying there was no clear explanation was made and thread marked after this.
People feel there has to be more to it than that because it feels so unbelievable that the widely hated black man would get off with a typically light punishment for what is otherwise usually seen as a pretty light crime. And honestly, that's not necessarily the wrong impulse because even if you agree that's what should be the punishment, seeing any part of law enforcement being less racist than the mainstream liberal opinion is a little weird.

It's not impossible though. I've heard some cautious praise for Kwame Raoul becoming the state AG, and maybe same could be said for others down the line.

The attackers though...

Explain the motive behind the admitted attackers doing what they did if Jussie wasn't in on it? Maybe there is an explanation, but I can't fathom one.
The theoretical motive would be to spend less time in jail.
 
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People feel there has to be more to it than that because it feels so unbelievable that the widely hated black man would get off with a typically light punishment for what is otherwise usually seen as a pretty light crime. And honestly, that's not necessarily the wrong impulse because even if you agree that's what should be the punishment, seeing any part of law enforcement being less racist than the mainstream liberal opinion is a little weird.

It's not impossible though. I've heard some cautious praise for Kwame Raoul becoming the state AG, and maybe same could be said for others down the line.


The theoretical motive would be to spend less time in jail.
Faking a hate crime and getting national attention is a pretty light crime?

Their motive for attacking him if there is no hoax is to spend less time in jail?
 

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Faking a hate crime and getting national attention is a pretty light crime?

Their motive for attacking him if there is no hoax is to spend less time in jail?
The national attention part shouldn't be the police's problem to solve. The main reason it's a crime at all is it wastes police time and resources, but it's not like you need to threaten years of jail time to properly deter that.
 
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The national attention part shouldn't be the police's problem to solve. The main reason it's a crime at all is it wastes police time and resources, but it's not like you need to threaten years of jail time to properly deter that.
I don’t believe anyone here is calling for years of jail time. It took tons of resources to solve, that could’ve been better used on actual crimes. At the very least I’d expect him to have to pay the cost of the investigation, which is significantly higher than $10k, and admit guilt.

It’s insane to me that as part of the agreement he can continue to claim he’s innocent.
 

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I don’t believe anyone here is calling for years of jail time. It took tons of resources to solve, that could’ve been better used on actual crimes. At the very least I’d expect him to have to pay the cost of the investigation, which is significantly higher than $10k, and admit guilt.

It’s insane to me that as part of the agreement he can continue to claim he’s innocent.
Since when was false police report or any other punishments meant to be calculated on recuperating police dept costs? Which are probably being calculated with the highest interpretation of the opportunity costs involved.

We shouldn't make punishments for false police reports be too high because we don't want to deter people with real reports being afraid of the police turning on them.
 

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Cook County State's Attorney: Smollett's "court file was not supposed to be sealed"

The court files in Actor Jussie Smollett’s case were not supposed to be sealed, Cook County State’s Attorney Kim Foxx told CNN’s Affiliate WLS in an on-camera interview Wednesday.
She says her office did not advocate, do not believe the court files would be sealed.
Foxx tells WLS she believes the court files are in the process of being unsealed.


Looks like we might get more info then. They're in the process of unsealing the court files. I'm sure this must be after all the pressure from the CPD and the mayor.
 

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Wait, after all this, someone genuinely believes he was attacked for real???
Nobody believes that
Cook County State's Attorney: Smollett's "court file was not supposed to be sealed"

The court files in Actor Jussie Smollett’s case were not supposed to be sealed, Cook County State’s Attorney Kim Foxx told CNN’s Affiliate WLS in an on-camera interview Wednesday.
She says her office did not advocate, do not believe the court files would be sealed.
Foxx tells WLS she believes the court files are in the process of being unsealed.


Looks like we might get more info then. They're in the process of unsealing the court files. I'm sure this must be after all the pressure from the CPD and the mayor.
Kim Foxx is getting destroyed in Chicago. Maybe a way to save some face if you're her. But maybe it was a mistake.
 

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Did he really though? His career and reputation are ruined. The guy is a laughing stock.
His castmates don't seem to think so
https://www.usatoday.com/story/life...ssie-smollett-the-truth-prevailed/3280218002/

"I'm happy that the truth has finally been set free, because I knew it all along," Henson told USA TODAY on Tuesday. "We're all happy for him, and thank God the truth prevailed."
Like I could have swore I remember reading she was pissed at him when it first came out it was all a hoax but whatever.
 

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Cook County State's Attorney: Smollett's "court file was not supposed to be sealed"

The court files in Actor Jussie Smollett’s case were not supposed to be sealed, Cook County State’s Attorney Kim Foxx told CNN’s Affiliate WLS in an on-camera interview Wednesday.
She says her office did not advocate, do not believe the court files would be sealed.
Foxx tells WLS she believes the court files are in the process of being unsealed.


Looks like we might get more info then. They're in the process of unsealing the court files. I'm sure this must be after all the pressure from the CPD and the mayor.
Now this makes a lot more sense.
 
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