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Twenty7kvn

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Did she just accuse the brothers of white face? WTF Man fuck this whole thing, this shit is just fucked up all around.
 

cameron

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Josh Campbell @joshscampbell

NEW: Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel tells WGN Radio that police are "finalizing the cost" of the resources used on the Jussie Smollett case and will be sending him a bill.

The mayor noted the $10k bond Smollett forfeited "doesn't even come close to what the city spent in resources."

11:32 AM - Mar 28, 2019
 
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"Foxx had said she recused herself from the case last month after revealing she had contact with Smollett's representatives early on in the investigation. She declined to provide details at the time, but on Wednesday, her office quibbled over the terminology, saying Foxx did not formally recuse herself "in a legal sense."

"While the term "recusal " was used when it was announced she was stepping away from the Smollett case, a Foxx spokeswoman said, "it was a colloquial use of the term rather than in its legal sense."

So much for that "conspiracy theory". She only recused herself "colloquially".
 

Deception

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The fact that Jussie and his team are making the rounds on talk shows after all of this really makes me think that they either A.) Feel untouchable after all of this because of the charges being dropped or B.) There was never a case to begin with and he was really attacked.

Either way, I'd think it would be best to just lay low and let all of this blow over but instead, they are creating more and more headlines.
 
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"Foxx had said she recused herself from the case last month after revealing she had contact with Smollett's representatives early on in the investigation. She declined to provide details at the time, but on Wednesday, her office quibbled over the terminology, saying Foxx did not formally recuse herself "in a legal sense."

So much for that "conspiracy theory".

How stupid can she be? They were just all over the news saying that Magats guy was the decision maker in her stead.

I don't see how Foxx is going to escape from this unscathed.
 

CDX

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Josh Campbell @joshscampbell

NEW: Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel tells WGN Radio that police are "finalizing the cost" of the resources used on the Jussie Smollett case and will be sending him a bill.

The mayor noted the $10k bond Smollett forfeited "doesn't even come close to what the city spent in resources."

11:32 AM - Mar 28, 2019


He didn't plea guilty, and he wasn't convicted of any charges. So how does that work? What can they legally do to someone in his situation to force him to pay?

I'm no expert, but I don't think they can force someone that wasn't convicted and didn't plea guilty to pay anything. ....unless that sort of repayment was already part of his whatever you call his non-plea-deal agreement. I guess if it wasn't already agreed to, they can just send him a bill anyways with no expectation he'll pay.
 
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How stupid can she be? They were just all over the news saying that Magats guy was the decision maker in her stead.

I don't see how Foxx is going to escape from this unscathed.
Her office desperately searched for cases to show that they've handled cases similarly in the past and in both of them the party who had their prosecution dropped both admitted guilt and agreed to conditions for release (monetary, community service etc). Jussie's lawyers insist no conditions were ever agreed to for his release and he maintains his innocence. Foxx is fucked here. She better be lining up a job, because Chicago won't be reelecting her.
 
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He didn't plea guilty, and he wasn't convicted of any charges. So how does that work? What can they legally do to someone in his situation to force him to pay?

I'm no expert, but I don't think they can force someone that wasn't convicted and didn't plea guilty to pay anything. ....unless that sort of repayment was already part of his whatever you call his non-plea-deal agreement. I guess if it wasn't already agreed to, they can just send him a bill anyways with no expectation he'll pay.

I think they are doing it to show how much it cost.

I don't think the lack of charges will stand long. Too many people up in arms about it even in the city. The state's attorney is panicking and requesting that its employees find other cases which justify their actions because as of now they don't have any.

Foxx will not be long in that job and I expect he will be recharged. I don't know why Magats is trying to take the bullet on this one for her. The states attorney didn't even document a deal and didn't require him to plead guilty.
 

Trojita

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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment...opped-charges-doubts-innocence-212831106.html

"First of all I want to thank my family, my friends, the incredible people of Chicago and all over the country and the world who have prayed for me, who have supported me and who have showed me so much love," he said in a short press conference Tuesday. "No one will ever know how much that has meant to me and I will be forever grateful. I want you to know that not for a moment was it in vain. I have been truthful and consistent on every level since day one. I would not be my mother's son if I was capable of one drop of what I've been accused of."

If he did do it this is bordering on sociopath level, but then I forgot he already was fine with going in and identifying the attackers police said they apprehended (hopefully he wouldn't say yes to two innocent people but who knows) until he found out it was the brothers.
 
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Isn't it weird that the brothers arent talking to anyone?

"Moments after Jussie was cleared by the State's Attorney, the lawyer for Abel and Ola urged them to make a public statement, standing by their claim Jussie faked the "attack." We're told they refused, and ultimately their lawyer, Gloria Schmidt, bailed on them, saying she didn't want to rep them anymore."
 

TheGhost

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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment...opped-charges-doubts-innocence-212831106.html



If he did do it this is bordering on sociopath level, but then I forgot he already was fine with going in and identifying the attackers police said they apprehended (hopefully he wouldn't say yes to two innocent people but who knows) until he found out it was the brothers.
I mean he did that GMA video and lied throughout the whole thing. We are fully entrenched in sociopath territory
 

Trup1aya

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Her office desperately searched for cases to show that they've handled cases similarly in the past and in both of them the party who had their prosecution dropped both admitted guilt and agreed to conditions for release (monetary, community service etc). Jussie's lawyers insist no conditions were ever agreed to for his release and he maintains his innocence. Foxx is fucked here. She better be lining up a job, because Chicago won't be reelecting her.

Iirc They re-elected a mayor who tried to cover for murdering police officers.

I wouldn't put anything past the electorate
 

mugurumakensei

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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment...opped-charges-doubts-innocence-212831106.html



If he did do it this is bordering on sociopath level, but then I forgot he already was fine with going in and identifying the attackers police said they apprehended (hopefully he wouldn't say yes to two innocent people but who knows) until he found out it was the brothers.

I mean
https://pagesix.com/2019/02/20/jussie-smollett-once-lied-to-cops-during-dui-arrest/

Jussie already proved it years ago.
 

Nepenthe

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You can legislate that companies will lose tax credits for hiring a specific individual???
 

Trup1aya

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Yeah that's a little much, no reason to punish the rest of the cast and crew for one morons mistakes.

Then there's the greater issue if using the legislature to target civilians solely based on controversial outcomes to the legal process.

It's a terrible precident to set. I'm not even sure how one could frame such a law? Anyone business that hires former suspects is ineligible for tax breaks?

What benefit is there to society when people who run "allegedly" run afoul of the law once arent hireable?
 
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Emmert

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Smollett probably took a page from his co star when leaving the courtroom lmao

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excelsiorlef

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I can't even be mad anymore if he did fake it.

By walking the dude exposed just how much more motivated white folks get when it's a black man who got away.
 

TheHunter

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Ok, so you are accusing the CPD of falsifying the evidence in this case then? What specifically do you think was falsified?

I also think it's pretty telling that you say how corrupt Chicago is generally but jump over the possibility that maybe the States Attorney's office is where the corruption is happening in this case.
Could be both!

That's the fun here in Illinois. Everyone is corrupt.
 

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http://www.ilpba.org/announcements/7249825

The Illinois Prosecutors Bar Association serves as the voice for nearly 1,000 front line prosecutors across the State who work tirelessly towards the pursuit of justice. The events of the past few days regarding the Cook County State's Attorney's handling of the Jussie Smollett case is not condoned by the IPBA, nor is it representative of the honest ethical work prosecutors provide to the citizens of the State of Illinois on a daily basis.


The manner in which this case was dismissed was abnormal and unfamiliar to those who practice law in criminal courthouses across the State. Prosecutors, defense attorneys, and judges alike do not recognize the arrangement Mr. Smollett received. Even more problematic, the State's Attorney and her representatives have fundamentally misled the public on the law and circumstances surrounding the dismissal.


The public has the right to know the truth, and we set out to do that here.


When an elected State's Attorney recuses herself from a prosecution, Illinois law provides that the court shall appoint a special prosecutor. See 55 ILCS 5/3-9008(a-15). Typically, the special prosecutor is a neighboring State's Attorney, the Attorney General, or the State Appellate Prosecutor. Here, the State's Attorney kept the case within her office and thus never actually recused herself as a matter of law.


Additionally, the Cook County State's Attorney's office falsely informed the public that the uncontested sealing of the criminal court case was "mandatory" under Illinois law. This statement is not accurate. To the extent the case was even eligible for an immediate seal, that action was discretionary, not mandatory, and only upon the proper filing of a petition to seal. See 20 ILCS 2630/5.2(g)(2). For seals not subject to Section 5.2(g)(2), the process employed in this case by the State's Attorney effectively denied law enforcement agencies of legally required Notice (See 20 ILCS 2630/5.2(d)(4)) and the legal opportunity to object to the sealing of the file (See 20 ILCS 2630/5.2(d)(5)). The State's Attorney not only declined to fight the sealing of this case in court, but then provided false information to the public regarding it.


The appearance of impropriety here is compounded by the fact that this case was not on the regularly scheduled court call, the public had no reasonable notice or opportunity to view these proceedings, and the dismissal was done abruptly at what has been called an "emergency" hearing. To date, the nature of the purported emergency has not been publicly disclosed. The sealing of a court case immediately following a hearing where there was no reasonable notice or opportunity for the public to attend is a matter of grave public concern and undermines the very foundation of our public court system.


Lastly, the State's Attorney has claimed this arrangement is "available to all defendants" and "not a new or unusual practice." There has even been an implication it was done in accordance with a statutory diversion program. These statements are plainly misleading and inaccurate. This action was highly unusual, not a statutory diversion program, and not in accordance with well accepted practices of State's Attorney initiated diversionary programs. The IPBA supports diversion programs, and recognizes the many benefits they provide to the community, the defendant and to the prosecuting agency. Central to any diversion program, however, is that the defendant must accept responsibility. To be clear here, this simply was not a deferred prosecution.


Prosecutors must be held to the highest standard of legal ethics in the pursuit of justice. The actions of the Cook County State's Attorney have fallen woefully short of this expectation. Through the repeated misleading and deceptive statements to the public on Illinois law and circumstances surrounding the Smollett dismissal, the State's Attorney has failed in her most fundamental ethical obligations to the public. The IPBA condemns these actions.


This irregular arrangement was an affront to prosecutors across the State, the Chicago Police Department, victims of hate crimes, and the people of the City of Chicago and Cook County. We strongly encourage our members and the public to review the National District Attorneys Associations statement on prosecutorial best practices in high profile cases.


Best Regards,

Lee Roupas
President,
Illinois Prosecutor's Bar Association



Give the whole thing a read.
 
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Yeah, but our side won so who cares, right? I mean, he only faked a hate crime afterall.

"Additionally, the Cook County State's Attorney's office falsely informed the public that the uncontested sealing of the criminal court case was "mandatory" under Illinois law. This statement is not accurate. To the extent the case was even eligible for an immediate seal, that action was discretionary, not mandatory, and only upon the proper filing of a petition to seal."

"The appearance of impropriety here is compounded by the fact that this case was not on the regularly scheduled court call, the public had no reasonable notice or opportunity to view these proceedings, and the dismissal was done abruptly at what has been called an "emergency" hearing. To date, the nature of the purported emergency has not been publicly disclosed. The sealing of a court case immediately following a hearing where there was no reasonable notice or opportunity for the public to attend is a matter of grave public concern and undermines the very foundation of our public court system. "

Top that all off with the fact that Foxx's own office says she didn't recuse herself afterall, and you gotta wonder what the hell they thought was going to come of this. Did they think a high profile case was just going to disappear unnoticed simply by not making the proceedings public and then sealing what actually happened?
 
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