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Breaking: Charges dropped in case against Jussie Smollett. (See Staff Post)
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No worries, we all knew your morality was flexible depending on your agenda.
I wish our politicians cared half as much about officer involved killings as they do about Jussie's victemless crime
This is it. I think what he did was shitty and awful, but as a Chicago resident these people need to keep this same energy for the real shit that's going left here. One of the biggest issues I have is they are talking about man hours and the cost of the investigation when the city paid over 100 million to settle police misconduct lawsuits last year. Why have Rahm and Eddie 'nem been so quiet on that? That is something that actually has broad effects on a city that has very limited resources and budget problems.
We barely have enough money to fund schools, massive pension liabilities, and corrupt politicians (many under an FBI investigation as we speak!) but our Mayor is focused on Jussie fucking Smollett and his nonsense.
It's totally absurd.
Not only because of the ethical considerations but also because this shit only "owns the Republicans" on the very very surface level. If you apply a single modicum of critical thinking and follow this to its natural conclusion, it quite obviously helps the Republicans in the long term if Democrats start to celebrate this.
I think Smollett is shitty for what he did but this seems like an enormous amount of energy to devote to yet another wealthy/famous person getting away with a crime. I really don't feel like this happens unless the escapee also happens to be black. Can't have the system not working as intended I guess.
Smollett was willing to press charges against people he knew to be innocent until it turned out that the police had picked up his Nigerian trainers. That's not a victimless crime, any more than punching somebody in the dark is victimless.
This has been the most entertaining news story this year that's all I know. It's always taking a new twist and turn. Usually you have to wait months between new tidbits. This shit is like every few hours.
Now dude is nominated for a NAACP award, if he wins he is going to show his ass again.
Now dude is nominated for a NAACP award, if he wins he is going to show his ass again.
i think it'd be interesting to compare and contrast your posting history in threads about this case and your posting history in threads about other miscarriages of justice. because you've been at like a ten in all these threads, you've been very passionate at criticizing smollett for faking a hate crime, but are you all up in thread about actual hate crimes, advocating for the victims? are you on here making hundreds of posts about police who murder unarmed black people? Are you given this rich guys who use defamation suits as retribution to press outlets hell?
If "owning the libs" is a thing I'd assume the opposite is a thing. Either way, no one should be supporting Smollett here. He isn't on the right side of anything.
You can attack the poster all you want, and I hardly agree with Carolina Reaper on anything really, but it doesn't change the facts. Faking a hate crime to gain attention is what it is. There are no ways to squirm around it. It is fucked. None of us should defend the act, it isn't coming from a good place.
Can I ask why?
As far as I know, no you can't. You can't make laws about individuals. That's what the Republicans wanted to do with Terri Schiavo, and they weren't able to do so legally.
Is there even a point of reference for this though? Yes Hollywood stars get off with crimes all the time, but this case had so much national media attention from the start because of the circumstances, and was played for the public in real time, it's hard to even think of something to compare it to black or white.
"Demand Letter-Smollett False Statement"
Says it right there. Pay up your $130K for wasting Chicago PD's time with false report.
Says it right there. Pay up your $130K for wasting Chicago PD's time with false report.
User Banned (1 month): Extreme false equivalence concerning sexual assault, a history of similar infractions
Interesting take. Do do this same purity test on rape victims as well? See how slutty they have been in the past before you decide if it's ok to support thier call for Justice?
Tell us more about past actions diminish calls for current justice.
If anything this is ammo to be used next time a white celebrity does something similar, same rules should apply.
With that said that bill is a bit much, it's punishing the wrong people. The cast, crew, writers and the network shouldn't have to suffer for his stupidity.
For me, I barely post in threads about police shootings and have posted in this thread much more. That isn't because I consider this a much larger issue than police shootings. Police shootings are far more important and are a tragedy every time they happen. The fact that they continue makes me sick and something absolutely needs to be done about the current state of the police in the United States. In the grand scheme of things, the Jussie Smollett case is a much much smaller issue compared to that.
That being said, I don't post in the police shooting threads because I have nothing to add. Everything posted in those threads (this is awful, the police officer should be arrested and convicted) mirrors my feelings. There isn't anyone in those threads posting "the victim deserved it", "the cops were right" and if there are, they're banned before I have a chance to tell them what an idiot they are.
Thread like this that's not the case at all. Just look on the previous page. You have a poster stating they're fine if he gets away with faking a hate crime.
I post in these threads because there's an actual discussion to be had and I can add something more than what I would add to those other threads. All I'd be able to add there is "This is disgusting and a tragedy. Why is this still happening?"
We"ve had celebrities get away with literal murder and with the exception of OJ (big coincidence) their cases got a fraction of the attention that this one has. The fact that the story got bigger once it was revealed as a fraud is telling on it's own but the tabloid nature of it would have turned into a big story with any celebrity.
In all honesty, there really hasn't been a story this wild in the social media age that I can recall so I would certainly label this a special case.
This case was sort of a culmination of where our country is currently and has ballooned into both sides refusing to acknowledge any fault.
I never thought Smollet deserved any real jail time and I have no intention of defending the police or criminal justice system as it currently exists but Smollet is an absolute piece of shit not only for orchestrating this entire thing but for now walking around like he's a legitimate victim of a hate crime.
Given how many people in this nation have actually been victimized by racially-motivated and homophobic attacks, his continued insistence on his innocence is fucking vile and a slap in the face to anyone who has been legitimately victimized.
Seriously, fuck this guy.
Given how many people in this nation have actually been victimized by racially-motivated and homophobic attacks, his continued insistence on his innocence is fucking vile and a slap in the face to anyone who has been legitimately victimized.
Seriously, fuck this guy.
I wouldn't really characterize Jussie's story getting bigger with the reveal that he might not have been a victim. His story and trying to find the perps was on the news for days. It was one of the main things you'd see on the 24/7 news channel and Jussie's own appearance for interview.
That nonsense cost the city and police department over a hundred thousand dollars in investigations, dollars you say the city doesn't have to spare. So the Mayor is justified here
Jussie literally made the whole thing up for the sole purpose of getting publicity and now we're wondering why it got so much publicity?
My issue isn't so much the media attention ( that's understandable) it's the anger. It's rare to see this level of outrage about a rich person buying their way out of trouble to the point where the president is calling for investigations and politicians are talking about introducing legislation to find another way to punish him. It's like "oh... so now you notice that the criminal justice system has issues? Interesting.".
Agreed.
Appealing to worse problems doesn't mean this situation isn't fucked.
Talking shit about the CPD is like talking about how the sun rises in the east. It doesn't need to be said all the time since it's so obvious they're fucked.
Problem is that there is a sizable portion of the white community, black community, and gay community that are upset with the potential that Jussie made everything up, used up resources, and seems to be walking free because he's well connected, well off, and a celebrity.
There's a smaller number of bad actors within the white community, among one political side, that are using this for political and racially divisive means. Problem is lumping the non-bad actors that still express exasperation with what Jussie allegedly did with the bad actors that are saying such outlandish shit like "I want to get rid of any tax benefits for anyone that hires Jussie".
There doesnt seem to be any indication that CPD botched the case so I imagine that's why no one is bitching about it
???? What difference would it make? We are posting on a forum. Nothing would change but the thread size.
Can we get a show of hands in this thread? Who thinks that Laquan McDonald doesn't deserve justice? Anyone?
Straw man much?
You're literally confusing discussion with outrage. There is more discussion in this thread because you have people claiming it's fine to fake hate crimes to own the conservatives. If I were more "outraged" at Jussie then wouldn't I want him to serve jail time? (I don't)
They played a leaky public slander game and muddied the waters. Only to find they didnt have proper evidence to move forward.
They were essentially betting on him to admit guilt. They absolutely botched the case
It's always difficult to differentiate between the two groups, even moreso in the anonymous nature of a discussion board.
You're quite literally the only person I've heard say that they didnt have evidence to move forward. Not even the states attorney has been saying that. And I live here where I cant stop hearing about this case. No one is coming it from that angle at all.
This case caused a reaction out of a lot of different communities, and as the story has progressed and grown increasingly outrageous, I think we've seen a mostly proportionate amount of anger being directed at all parties involved (Jussie, CPD, Trump, MAGAts, etc). You've got members of every community fighting for their side and some are unwilling to admit any fault because it will make their side look bad. It's really a shit show no matter what happens and has done nothing but create more issues and things to talk about.
LIke I said. Jussie did that shit, but I'm not losing sleep over this.
Fuck Rahm and Fuck CPD acting holier than thou. They didn't give a fuck about justice when it was reported that has black sites around the city to torture minorities. They didn't care about justice in the case of Laquan McDonald. Now they want to get on the soap box and start preaching? They are only doing this because they fucking look like fools right now.
Fuck Rahm and Fuck CPD acting holier than thou. They didn't give a fuck about justice when it was reported that has black sites around the city to torture minorities. They didn't care about justice in the case of Laquan McDonald. Now they want to get on the soap box and start preaching? They are only doing this because they fucking look like fools right now.
Is it really an appeal to hypocrisy as much as a fallacy of relative privation, i.e. there are starving kids in Africa why worry about Jussie Smollett? 🤔
The fact they didn't prosecute him, you think just sat on their hands with proper evidence and let him go willingly?
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