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Breath of the Wild 2 Revisits The Same Hyrule - Eiji Aonuma
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Using quotation marks is wrong anyway, when you use them you are implying an exact quote, which isn't the case at all with the current title of this thread. That's what he was talking about.
Speculation/prediction: Just like Hyrule Castle rose from the ground, I'm thinking we'll see underground structures erupt from underground as well, which could be potential dungeons. And if the game takes place a few years after BotW, perhaps we'll see new locations, towns, NPC's, enemies etc.
I really hope there is more to do in this game. I get I'm in the minority but the world felt shallow to me. There was very little variety, you either did repetitive shrines or chased korok seeds. The exploration meant very little when the things to find were the exact same things you've seen already.
If this is literally what he means (i.e. mostly the same world, with new events and a new story), then he really doesn't get what made people flock to BotW in the first place.
I hope he's just being mistranslated and/or playing on words, otherwise this doesn't bode well at all for the game. One way he could be playing on words is the fact that the teaser shows the underground of BotW Hyrule. If BotW 2 is mostly about underground sections, then it's technically the same world (i.e. same Hyrule), yet with an entirely new setting, and that would be fine by me. I hope that's what he means... I think that's what he means based on the teaser. God knows I have little faith in Aonuma, but I don' t think he would be that clueless.
I hope he's just being mistranslated and/or playing on words, otherwise this doesn't bode well at all for the game. One way he could be playing on words is the fact that the teaser shows the underground of BotW Hyrule. If BotW 2 is mostly about underground sections, then it's technically the same world (i.e. same Hyrule), yet with an entirely new setting, and that would be fine by me. I hope that's what he means... I think that's what he means based on the teaser. God knows I have little faith in Aonuma, but I don' t think he would be that clueless.
This is a good thing, and it solidifies what I've always felt that BotW is basically a very large but impressive tech demo.
The real adventure begins in this game, as Nintendo has figured out the production pipeline and can use it to create meaningful content within a big open world with the time and budget to do so. All they have is to repeat the success but with the setting ready-made they can spend all their time just creating stuff for it.
The real adventure begins in this game, as Nintendo has figured out the production pipeline and can use it to create meaningful content within a big open world with the time and budget to do so. All they have is to repeat the success but with the setting ready-made they can spend all their time just creating stuff for it.
I meamn they already did this with a link between worlds and that map was pretty remixed ALTTP map so i have faith
The population has been rebuilding since calamity Ganon was defeated. It will be completely different.
Since the maps in place i hope story is a big focus and that its not a wet paper towel in depth like the first.
Change up some existing areas in big ways, have 6-7 traditional dungeons, much more enemy variety, underground paths and areas to explore, different weapons and equipment, and fix the main flaws of BOTW and this could be killer for sure. Don't mind using the same Hyrule very much as long as plenty changes. I'm imagining the more desolate areas of the map filled out with different and exclusive enemy and NPC variety and it could definitely add new life to the same map.
That doesn't mean it will be EXACTLY the same world though. They'll change stuff around, so that old areas feel new again. And there were pretty huge areas that the game didn't really do anything with, which honestly felt like wasted potential. I never felt "done" exploring the world, there was just nothing left to do (except looking for seeds - I've given up on getting them all). So I'm psyched to go back there, hopefully with new/rebuilt towns and stuff.
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That doesn't mean it won't be different. I'm guessing it's the same map with key locations in the same spots but if it's darker like he says it can be very different
Like they could use the same world but have it in a darker timeline where things are destroyed, in the past, etc
Like they could use the same world but have it in a darker timeline where things are destroyed, in the past, etc
Well as long as they remix the landscape like flooding places, deserts, towns, the overall geography i'm down for it. That would open opportunities to put dungeons and expanding towns or heck destroy towns.
I don't want to walk around the same exact Hyrule since i already can do that...
I don't want to walk around the same exact Hyrule since i already can do that...
You guys are crazy if you think this is going to be some lazy recycle job. Nintendo is far too careful with mainline Zelda titles.
Yep. This thread jumped the gun a bit and unfortunately it's gonna bring in some trolling.
Yeah, that's the impression I got from the trailer. I feel like there's going to be a huge emphasis on what lies underneath Hyrule, though, and the things that emerge from there.
first game shown off by showing a vast open field, theme is freedom.
sequel is shown an evil ghost hand constricting around Ganondorf underground, make the theme about overcoming suffocating adversity. same world, completely different approach.
sequel is shown an evil ghost hand constricting around Ganondorf underground, make the theme about overcoming suffocating adversity. same world, completely different approach.
Probably, though I feel that even if you assume this is a 2020 game, that means we're looking at around 3 years of dev time in an engine and playstyle that they've finally wrapped their heads around. I'm pretty convinced the map will be a very different one, and that Aonuma's comment had more to do with it being set in that universe. With the timeskip, maybe that'll be a good excuse to reintroduce some major towns for onr thing.
This thread is going as I expected. People overreacting about a one sentence quote about a game where we have barely seen anything about. People are always looking for ways depress themselves.
turns out entire BotW1 Hyrule is just 20% of the map in the second game 🤯
This is my understanding as well.
Some limited parts of it may be re-used, but I hope they would realize what a mistake it would be to re-use the entire overworld.
That'd be great if they could incorporate a mechanic where doing things in the underground affects the aboveground and vice-versa. I guess that'd be similar in a sense to the Light-Dark world mechanic from previous games. But I think it could be rad.
And of course if the player can take control of Zelda as well, then that would open up further puzzle possibilities, as well if Zelda has different traits and expertise than Link.
No way they just copy and paste the map and call it a day. There will be significant differences.
The next generation Zelda will probably take 6+ years to make.
The next generation Zelda will probably take 6+ years to make.
That isn't a selling point to me. The BotW map was shallow. Tons of open space with nothing interesting. Zelda games have done it better before.
I trust this team. They've shown that they know how to double down on what works and improve based on fan feedback.
I'm excited to see what they can do with everything they've learned.
I'm excited to see what they can do with everything they've learned.
Come on guys, even if the terrain is close to the same there will be tons of new stuff. One of the big complains in BOTW was nothing underground and no dungeons. The first trailer for this game is underground in what kind of looks like a dungeon.
granted it could just be for the cut scene.
Until we know more lets just be happy we get more BOTW.
granted it could just be for the cut scene.
Until we know more lets just be happy we get more BOTW.
It'll be fantastic if you can rebuild some of the derelict towns like Hyrule Town and Lon Lon Ranch, maybe with some of the guys from Tarrey Town. I can imagine like Squatters in Hyrule Castle, people trying to control the guardians again and racing them, some plot lines where the people are no longer interested in restoring the monarchy, it could be really cool. Like 'Final Fantasy X-2' done right.
Meh size is not impressive really for me as a selling point world was big enough as is imo. More interested on what to do world, etc..
Same here. The trailer did kind of worry me in a way because I was expecting the overworld to be very different and in the last shot it looks exactly the same. But maybe that was the point of the trailer, to show the moment in which things go wrong and Hyrule is metamorphosed into something new.
Having said that, one of the things I enjoyed the most about BOTW was discovering the towers and uncovering the map area by area. If that feeling is completely lost it could be bad for the game.
My theory is that they're going to expand the world on the underground, with a complex cave and dungeon system. I think that would be very cool.
Well it doesn't stop me hoping they're not doing that. For all we knew that could have been part of the opening cutscene and they end whisked off somewhere shortly after ala link falling in to termina from somewhere in the lost woods.
Using the same world map made me not want to play the dlc at all (and I didn't). The best part of the game was exploring the world map, I don't want to reexplore the same one.
This just killed my hype entirely, honestly.
Disappointing news, I played BOTW too much that I have no interest in spending more hours on its world.
Also, I find it odd that more than two years after the release of BOTW the only thing the Zelda team has is an early sequel that reutilizes the world of the first game, I suspect they are developing a brand new game for the Switch succesor too.
Also, I find it odd that more than two years after the release of BOTW the only thing the Zelda team has is an early sequel that reutilizes the world of the first game, I suspect they are developing a brand new game for the Switch succesor too.
Sometimes you need to be practical in making games. The Switch needs a 2nd 3D Zelda game, and doing this is the smartest way to get it out for fall 2020.
It doesn't mean they can't go crazy with new ideas, Mario Galaxy 2 had plenty of them.
It doesn't mean they can't go crazy with new ideas, Mario Galaxy 2 had plenty of them.
Hmm. I feared as much after the trailer. I was hoping for a different, more compact map (like 2/3 the size of BoTW).
That said, exploring a totally new map is less important to me than having interesting things to do (A Link Between Worlds was the best Zelda since Majora's Mask, after all). If they build in more traditional dungeons and improve combat and itemization so they don't fall apart after ten hours, I am not going to complain that the overworld is only lightly remixed.
That said, exploring a totally new map is less important to me than having interesting things to do (A Link Between Worlds was the best Zelda since Majora's Mask, after all). If they build in more traditional dungeons and improve combat and itemization so they don't fall apart after ten hours, I am not going to complain that the overworld is only lightly remixed.
If revisiting Hyrule = Dark World, then cool, I'm game. However, if it's legit a copy-paste with some new things strewn about... I will legit be upset. I want new puzzles and areas to find. BOTW was a blast because you never knew what was around the corner. However, that's done and over with if you're familiar with everything.
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