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BREXIT |OT3| I'd Rather Be Inert in a Ditch
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Surely its best to just ignore them, I'm betting they are mostly Russian bots clicking them.
Someone needs to be asking the DUP if they'd support an amendment to keep GB in the EU customs union. You know, to avoid that border in the Irish Sea thing. Bet you they'd be interested.
I still can't believe Boris tried to do the DUP over after all the blather about the union, they have long memories over there.
It almost worked but i think that's going to come back and bite him even if he pulls Brexit off, it's really shoddy work even by his standards.
It almost worked but i think that's going to come back and bite him even if he pulls Brexit off, it's really shoddy work even by his standards.
DUP shithousing the government into a customs union would be funny. Absolutely no trust left now.
Oi?
This is a proper poll, not an online one.
This all seems to assume the EU will not wait and grant an extension.
I'm not so sure, the EU is gonna hold on to the letter, the UK gov probably already told Tusk what its next plan is (or some of it) and it's almost 100% sure they'll try a proper vote on the deal, rebel Labour MPs can't run away from making a decision.
Also the prospect of a "new deal" (from this government or a future Labour government) is NOT something the EU wants
Im not sure why people are worried about an extension - the EU are on record as saying it will be granted.
hmmmm. I dont think the EU are going to let Johnson fuck around, but I'm pretty sceptical. Seems too easy.
I didn't think there was the time left on the EU side to get it done?(not give an extension) so it would be more about how long if anything.
Another week seems a bit much if they decide to say no.
They can do it any way they want, a quick phone call between the 27 is enough.
I meant no extension and avoid a no deal, doesn't the European parliament have to approve a deal as well?
Ah, fair enough, i thought the deal required their parliament as well, someone said the EU would struggle to ratify beyond Monday.
I think what we will see is the EU until at least monday. The key thing will be the amendments to the bill. The bill is much more palatable to labour MP's if there is a customs union attached. It becomes even more palatable if there is a confirmatory referendum attach as well.
I think we may well see a referendum amendment attached and that would suit labour just fine as well as the SNP and lib dems. The DUP may even get onboard with it as they hate the deal and remain would be a preferred option as that would just leave things as they are. The DUP seem to be in the frame of mind that they have been screwed by Boris and anything to hurt is now good.
The numbers are now probably there for a referendum. Labour backs one, the rebel tories would back one, the libs and the SNP would.
I think we may well see a referendum amendment attached and that would suit labour just fine as well as the SNP and lib dems. The DUP may even get onboard with it as they hate the deal and remain would be a preferred option as that would just leave things as they are. The DUP seem to be in the frame of mind that they have been screwed by Boris and anything to hurt is now good.
The numbers are now probably there for a referendum. Labour backs one, the rebel tories would back one, the libs and the SNP would.
no, EU was always going to wait for the UK to pass the deal first.
And while the EU Parliament only has one more plenary before the 31st there might be an extraordinary plenary if the UK passes it before the 31st
Like I said they're going to wait
Deal needs to be approved by the EU Parliament
That can't be done with an amendment, it would need to be agreed between the UK and EU at negotiations, and negotiations on the UK's future relationship with the EU aren't part of this phase of the process.
A lot of people don't fully follow the process and the UK media has been awful at explaining it. That has meant a lot of misinformation about the scope of this deal and what parliament can do.
So people think a customs union is an achievable goal even though it can only be negotiated as part of the future relationship, and people think parliament can amend the withdrawal agreement even though such an amendment would instantly kill it.
The reason they're worried is that there's no one in the EU who can guarantee that. As unlikely as a rejection would be, it would only take a single leader to reject it and it's gone. For the EU to be "on record" as saying it would be granted, you'd need public assurances from each of the 27 leaders.
I disliked most of the setup. If the ending of that plot line is that the DUP, having been bribed with the £1b money tree by May, finally end up being the votes that bring us a second referendum ending in Remain then I for one am happy with the end result. Provided they then sink into utter irrelevance again.
Yeah I was wondering if it was based on...anything but like you I assume it's just people misunderstanding what is going on.
They'll fade away back to only being relevant in NI soon. There's a decent chance that they might lose some seats in the next election as well so their slow decline into irrelevancy could continue from there.
Pretty restrained for the MoS, all things considered
That Royals bit at the top lol.
How dare you, she walked around on two legs and stuff, i am only angry they could only manage 16 glorious pages.
Surprised they're not calling for Boris to CRUSH THE SABOTEURS
Pretty restrained for the MoS, all things considered
There's dozens of ways to achieve it, by adding requirements for the Government to seek it. You do that, set it in legislation, and the ERG won't back the deal. Which kills it.
Can anyone explain the details of Boris's deal regarding the level playing field commitments?
All the commentary around suggests we'd be moving away from EU regulations etc but the text mentions a commitment on environmental, climate and workers rights? So which is it?
All the commentary around suggests we'd be moving away from EU regulations etc but the text mentions a commitment on environmental, climate and workers rights? So which is it?
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