Typical Brexit voter reading this news
No, they start shouting about lies, remoaners and project fear.
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Brexit: Dutch government says over 250 companies in talks about relocating to Netherlands
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No, they start shouting about lies, remoaners and project fear.
Its more like the dutchs are the only coutry that has an industry and infrastructure to survive this problem.
There are already many british companys that put their toes into german soil.
Soon, Cornish pastries made in rotterdam or Münster :D
If only. More like thisTypical Brexit voter reading this news
Too many business's will cause their entire country to keel over.
There's also an argument that the Netherlands is culturally the closest to the UK of the European countries. Both largely protestant seafaring nations and the birthplaces of liberalism. Language aside maybe even more so than Ireland (though Dutch is also the major language closest to English).
Though this can be a negative too. Those companies are trading one group of chavs for other very similar ones.
Though this can be a negative too. Those companies are trading one group of chavs for other very similar ones.
The comments are better than usual, actually. Pretty hard to spin stuff like this.
Indeed. And the ironic thing is, that the UK already had a lot of ways to lower immigration, but they can't. Because they actually need all those immigrant workers.
Lower taxes, good cultural fit, English speaking population although that English knowledge is overestimated, huge seaport and airports.
Dublin doesn't have the infrastructure that Amsterdam and Rotterdam can offer. Schiphol is the third biggest European airport, and the port of Rotterdam is the biggest seaport, with the second biggest - Antwerp - being close as well. There are also high-speed train connections to Brussels and Paris, ...
Then you're out of touch and somewhat foolish, in my opinion. The anti-EU propaganda wagon is slowly starting up again already in preparation for any second referendum. And I've seen nothing to make me believe a new wave of lies will be any less successful than the first one.
Yeah well if they love the EU so much we're better off without them
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You can spin anything any which way you want :(
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You can spin anything any which way you want :(
I don't know why I do this to myself but I read the comments on the BBC Airbus article.
You know what, I almost want to see their No Deal fuck up. It will allow my country Scotland to finally fucking realise we need to be rid of these idiots down south. But I'm not evil and fucking ignorant so yeah, no to No Deal please!
You know what, I almost want to see their No Deal fuck up. It will allow my country Scotland to finally fucking realise we need to be rid of these idiots down south. But I'm not evil and fucking ignorant so yeah, no to No Deal please!
Maybe I'm just hopeful the large % of people who didn't vote (young demographic) would turn out and vote Remain this time!
There is going to be a multi-pronged attack on the second referendum from before it's even announced. The forms of attack will include:
* More anti-EU propaganda for the leave base.
* Attempts to persuade particularly swing voters from the last referendum that whatever they wanted at the time, it's only right to accept the will of the people from the first vote.
* Calls to apathy - so many people have ended up in a state where they're sick of the whole thing and just want something to happen. Persuading these people not to bother to vote will be a core part of it.
Exactly. Free movement means the companies will still be able to recruit the staff they need for everyday operations from the EU's pool of qualified workers, while getting work visas for a few essential legacy staff from the UK.
The main hope of a second referendum would be demographic shift. A significant proportion of Leave voters have died over the past three years, while being replaced by people who were in the 15-17 age bracket in 2016. A campaign urging younger people to vote would probably be enough to tip the balance.
Countries should sanction us for being a tax shelter. Society at large will lose from the companies moving to our country.
We see insignificant returns on these companies sitting here, when traveling throughout the country you see various international (American) companies that don't even have any business here outside of dodging taxes (Verizon in the Hague for example).
It is our government that is full of ideologues who basically believe in trickle down and will invite the world to compe here and pay near zero tax in a way to express their world view. To the public they claim it will bring jobs (documented lie) or whatever, nobody in the country except for the politicians believe this (even public officials protested against their latest attempt at removing taxes on dividends). All that nice talk about the Netherlands having nice infrastructure is paid for by the lower and middle income classes, we pay and the top profits (we're into 40 years of centrally mandaded stagnation of wage grwoth).
I mean.. I get what you're saying, but in this case it will literally bring jobs right? Or are those 250 companies just going to be there in name?
Also seems preferable (for the EU) to those companies staying in the UK. Or at worst, it still won't be a loss for the people in general, right?
Most will be there in name (Amsterdam south has tons of these 'offices'), others will have a handful of employees. Nothing to warrant the gigantic loss to the EU. It is a loss because it is another way to keep the redistribution upwards in place. Those companies could have paid taxes in another European (EU) nation. Yet now they are keeping the money in their own pockets, it is a loss. This is also referred to as the 'race to the bottom' theory.
Polls show that the majority of the Dutch public want to stop with these practices because whoever is benfitting, it is not us that live in permanent austerity (austerity since 2003+). I firmly believe that we can top all the charts when it comes to quality of life under different rule, we have huge potential as a nation.
Ireland shares a land border with the UK, so aren't there still unresolved questions about how ports of entry will work?
Also, the Netherlands is on the continent, with the rest of the EU market, making travel easier.
Nah, I think the Daily Mail or The Sun will put a nice spin on it to say that we're better off without those companies, or maybe they'll neglect to report it at all.Typical Brexit voter reading this news
Heh. I commend your optimisim in thinking hat Brexit voters' news sources would even cover this.Typical Brexit voter reading this news
And the largest port in Europe!
The tax haven thing is a bit much, There is a reason why large companies have to make deals with the government. The regular tax system is pretty rational, and probably something other countries should follow. I dont agree with Those deals btw.
I'm not really sure. We're a major trading partner of the UK and a Brexit would have some major impact for our industries and lots of stuff that's brought in by boat (and would have to deal with inspection if the UK quits the EU) is brought in through Rotterdam's harbor. Truckloads of corporations over here have been forced to put together emergency plans for a scenario that may or may not come to pass and it's been a huge headache, all because of a crappy referendum we didn't get a vote in.
I imagine most Dutch with a stake in all this would have preferred if Cameron had steered clear of the world's shittiest game of chicken.
Yes. But it also is the highest percentage English speaking country in the EU (well after Ireland). No one wants to go to fucking Frankfurt and France is protest land.
The economic damage of Brexit to our country is estimated at 10 billion euros by the Dutch government.
That's currently the only solid datapoint we have; there are hypothetical opportunities where we can fill the void left by British exporters having a harder time entering the common market and there is the trend mentioned in OP, but it's unclear whether these gains offset the losses.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...onal-hq-belgium-brexit-netherlands-ireland-eu
Even the BBC are at it, is nothing sacred?
Even the BBC are at it, is nothing sacred?
That was to be expected.
The situation regarding the five domestic channels (BBC One, Two, Four, CBeebies and CBBC) is bit more tricky:
https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/201...channels-to-loose-international-distribution/
Without a deal the domestic channels will disappear from Cable and IPTV offerings outside of the UK, which will also result in less income for the BBC.