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Micael

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Oct 28, 2017
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If you didn't hear the show, he also thinks IT people simply used it to scam the taxpayer out of millions.
The idea that IT companies would need to make up stories to get millions from the government for doing nothing is surprisingly even funnier than him thinking the millennium bug was fake news.
 

Goodlifr

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Nov 6, 2017
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Tory rebels seem to have rejected May's "compromise" anyway.

I'm slightly worried though, the number of times theses rebellions have turned to nothing in the hours before a vote is crazy, when push comes to shove the Tories just want to save their own skin... But this one does seem different though... Even if she convinces a few, she should still be facing a heavy defeat.

The stupid part of it is is that this was all predicted the morning after the last GE, when she lost her majority, but being the "bloody difficult woman" she is, she has wasted 18 months getting here
 

peekaboo

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Nov 4, 2017
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I'm loving the Norwegians telling the UK to take their poisonous self somewhere else, they're completely fine the way they are thank you very much, no need for difficult members in our club.
 

KingSnake

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Oct 25, 2017
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So the Government will decide who gets their medicine and who won't?`That sounds like a good starting plot for a post apocalyptic movie.
 

Uzzy

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Oct 25, 2017
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Warning of food shortages in Ireland.

Ireland faces food shortages and will suffer a bigger economic hit than Britain in the event of a no-deal Brexit, according to leaked government papers. Cabinet ministers and Brexiteers have seized on the papers, obtained by The Times, as they believe their contents could let Theresa May put pressure on Ireland to drop the “backstop”.

The papers say the UK leaving the EU without a deal would cause a 7 per cent drop in GDP for Ireland, compared to a 5 per cent drop in Britain. This is because Ireland is “a more open economy than the UK, accounting for 60 per cent of GDP comprised of goods imports and exports, as opposed to 40 per cent for Great Britain”. Ireland is also more dependent on the UK than the other way round, with Britain accounting for 13.1 per cent of Irish exports and 29.1 per cent of imports, the papers say.

The papers specify that trade in perishable goods, such as food supplies, would be particularly badly affected. Priti Patel, the former cabinet minister, said: “This paper appears to show the government were well aware Ireland will face significant issues in a no-deal scenario. Why hasn’t this point been pressed home during the negotiations? There is still time to go back to Brussels and get a better deal.”
That's right, we're at the 'lets threaten Ireland with starvation to get a better deal' stage of proceedings. What a wonderful thing.
 

Zastava

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Feb 19, 2018
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Warning of food shortages in Ireland.



That's right, we're at the 'lets threaten Ireland with starvation to get a better deal' stage of proceedings. What a wonderful thing.
As well as being an absolutely despicable threat, it's also apparently totally empty as Ireland is much more food secure than the UK. But trust the Brexiteers to look at the Irish famine and think, hmm, we did it once before we can do it again, without any thought that maybe the world has changed. Terrible people one and all, but so goddamn stupid as well.
 

Sephiroth503

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Oct 26, 2017
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Yes I saw that story on Reddit this morning. We'll be fine over here, thanks.

The UK, Ireland and "food shortages" should never be uttered by British politicians in any negotiation.
 

Garfield

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Oct 31, 2018
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So the first tinker with WA had been rejected by brexiteers, today May will see if they would be happy with an annual vote of going into back stop or extending the status quo (sshh nobody tell the EU)

As I have said previously, May will be trying to cut the size of the defeat, this is now her sole purpose, she will then go back to the EU to get them to tinker as well, the idea being a second vote gets through...
 

Garfield

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Oct 31, 2018
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Is this real? I can't tell any more.
Yep, very real according reports...she is trying to find a way to get brexiteers onside. So is trying to give them a say

[
Maddy Thimont Jack, from the The Institute for Government think tank, said that any amendment would not be legally binding but was "a political expression of will from Parliament".
But she added that the EU was unlikely to want to include a Parliamentary vote on the backstop within the withdrawal agreement, a legally binding international treaty.
So if Parliament voted against implementing the backstop, should the situation arise, there was a possibility that the UK "would end up violating the terms of the treaty and therefore the treaty itself would fall".
/QUOTE]
 

jelly

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Oct 26, 2017
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Can't May just hand out peerages like sweeties or is that only for the loyal scum lapdogs in her orbit?
 

Garfield

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You would of thought May would of learnt by now not to promise the undeliverable, she will know the EU will never accept the UK being able to solely declare whether or not to go into back stop.
 

8bit

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Oct 27, 2017
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thingsarelookinggood.gif x2

It's been obvious medicines are going to be a problem since discussions began, but it's been ignored and now someone like Anna Soubry gets to decide whether or not the proles are worthy of their treatments when a limited supply could go to a rich patient instead. Amazing.
 

Micael

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Oct 28, 2017
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This is like watching idiotic inception:

The idea that the UK in a no deal brexit scenario can cause famine in Ireland (I'm assuming that is the republic of Ireland, not northern Ireland) instead of basically being the other way around giving UK inability to function with the rest of the world in a no deal brexit.

The idea that using such a thing in negotiations with the EU would see the EU capitulate instead of turning aggressive and absolutely level the UK into submission by causing untold damage to the UK in a variety of ways.

The idea that given England Irish relationships it is smart to say such stupid fucking shit (also DUP coalition lol).

The idea that such massive instability at the only land border the UK has (main territory) would in any way shape or form not screw the UK.

Each time you pull a layer of stupid, you just find another one below it, the Tory party truly is a machine of perpetual stupidity.
 
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gosublime

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's the level of intelligent response I'd expect from my Year 9s. We were actually discussing Brexit today and the difficulty of solving the UK/Irish border issue and one student said 'Why can't we give Europe the whole of Ireland and simply move all the people who want to live in the UK to the Midlands?'

I explained why that might not be the best solution to the problem whilst internally banging my head on the desk.
 

ManixMiner

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I can’t believe people keep comparing the millennium bug to Brexit lol that shit was real and IT technicians worked long and hard solving it.

Fucking Dave Cameron has really opened Pandora’s box here with his stupid referendum, I’m not even sure a second referendum is the right move right atm tensions are rising.
 

jelly

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Oct 26, 2017
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Even Norway and probably others don't want the UK to join their club, lol. UK has the stink unless they wash themselves of Brexit.

Staggering that people are still ignorant and doubling down. I would like them to see reality in real life but I really don't want to go through with it just so they get to experience it, will be a lost decade or two, they may even support it afterwards just because. The government and media have done a number on the population of the UK, a land of ignorant delusional etc. parrots.
 

Garfield

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Oct 31, 2018
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30 ministers have been sent to different parts of the country to sell Mays deal...

She still does not understand that the public are not voting
 

Git

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Oct 26, 2017
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It's the level of intelligent response I'd expect from my Year 9s. We were actually discussing Brexit today and the difficulty of solving the UK/Irish border issue and one student said 'Why can't we give Europe the whole of Ireland and simply move all the people who want to live in the UK to the Midlands?'

I explained why that might not be the best solution to the problem whilst internally banging my head on the desk.
I'd expect that sort of solution proposed by someone like Fabricant.
 

PJV3

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Oct 25, 2017
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I can't believe that, it's been obvious since the election that she was no longer fully in charge, and Chequers onwards it has been a shitshow.
 

Uzzy

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I can't believe that, it's been obvious since the election that she was no longer fully in charge, and Chequers onwards it has been a shitshow.
Since the 2017 Election tbh. She's acted as if she has a majority of 100 and a Tory party united behind her, rather than deal with the reality of the parliamentary situation since the election.

Its been impossible for her since then, there would always have to be a reckoning at some point and all May's managed to do is delay it till the last moment. If the vote goes ahead it's going to be a monumental defeat, one for the history books.
 

null

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Oct 25, 2017
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"Or delay - but delay to do what next? People been staring at same set of issues for 2 years "

...maybe the problem is Theresa May 🤔

I've listened to two Brexit podcasts in a row and they both made me grumpy
this thread is bad enough (in a good way). I occasionally go on twitter and see what some journalists are up to but that's it, it's just too much noise until something actually happens.
 

Batatina

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Oct 25, 2017
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I wish the Guardian would stop picking up every tweet from Laura Kuessenberg. Most of her supposed "scoops" from the tories, read like what the tories want Laura to say, rather anything genuine she dug up. And she is all too happy to be their voice.
 

Psychotext

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Oct 30, 2017
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Was just reading the comments on the latest government warnings. Seems even government research / planning now treated as project fear.

I really need to stop going near those fucking things, because every time I read them I just want to shut down my spending, move my money to Europe and watch as these fucking idiots burn.
 

jelly

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Oct 26, 2017
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30 ministers have been sent to different parts of the country to sell Mays deal...

She still does not understand that the public are not voting
If many voters can't be bothered to vote they sure as shit aren't going to contact their MP.

I wonder if she wants to sense the pulse on the ground to see if she could get away with an election or 2nd referendum rather than anything to do with this vote she is going to lose.

Sad example on BBC News somewhere in England. Leaver was asked do you get annoyed when others say people didn't know what they voted for, cue guy sitting in greasy spoon, I read the papers, watched QT, I knew what I was voting for. I'm guessing the Sun, Mail, Express like most tradesmen which he looked like. Then they went to a nice polish delicatessent with a lady who just wants to work and have a nice life but feels like a nobody.
 

Batatina

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Oct 25, 2017
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Don't know if this is against any rules. But this online tool may help a lot of us sending an email to your MP, in an effort to stop Brexit.
https://www.exitbrex.it

edit: I have no involvement in making it, just found it on an article and thought it could be useful.
 
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Faddy

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I work in IT. Nothing frustrates me more than people pointing to a disaster my industry averted, as an example of a time when people freaked out about nothing.

We worked countless hours to fix that shit before it caused any problems.
Is "Brexit problems are as fake as the Millennium Bug" a Tory talking point because my mum was going on about it and she knows nothing about computers.

I had to point out the Millenium Bug didn't cause any trouble because countless people worked their asses off to fix the issues before the happened unlike Brexit where Britain is just sitting around pouting and not solving any of the inevitable problems of a No Deal.
 

Zastava

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Feb 19, 2018
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God I despise these xenophobic cunts. This is a massive loss to us all and these arseholes talk like it should be celebrated. Raging.
 

Axe

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Oct 27, 2017
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30 ministers have been sent to different parts of the country to sell Mays deal...

She still does not understand that the public are not voting
Not yet.

I think that's the only reason she's so brazen about the whole thing. She knows her deal won't pass parliament, but "the will of the people" will eventuallyforce them to capitulate and she'll hold another referendum to make it happen.
 

Psychotext

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Oct 30, 2017
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God I despise these xenophobic cunts. This is a massive loss to us all and these arseholes talk like it should be celebrated. Raging.
It's not like any of us could possibly have wanted to work / live in the rest of the EU after all.

The obsession with "We're ending freedom of movement" tells you EVERYTHING about who is supporting the leave side.
 

Dan

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Oct 25, 2017
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ahhh the Millennium Y2K IT times.

I was delegated to run a satellite office dedicated to Y2K in 1999. Got a nice hike for it too. Us (IT guys + Y2K business folk) got a year's worth of work done in January. Spent the rest of that year in the pub.

New Years Eve came along, and it was all itsfuckingnothing.gif
 

firehawk12

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Oct 25, 2017
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I asked in the other thread, but ultimately, is the only way the hard border question will be settled for good is through some form of reunification or if Northern Ireland leaves the UK?
 
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