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Zafir

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That's not a reason to abstain. That's the opposite of a reason to abstain.

I can understand why the campaign didn't want the vote to happen today. I can understand why it wasn't the best opportunity to bring this issue forwards (even if I believe it was absolutely right to bring this issue forwards today).

But 'it won't win anyway' isn't a reason to abstain from voting for something you support. Not if the vote is going ahead anyway.
I mean there's other reasons for why they abstained as mentioned in the edited second part of my post.

I don't agree with labour's stance at the moment but I get what they tried to do in that they sat on the fence for it as to not anger people when it isn't going to pass anyway.

Like I'm not sure breaking Labour up even more is the answer at the moment because it strengthens the Tories more.
So the Powell amendment failing was a good thing?
It might cause some people to change their votes because they realise that it can actually succeed.

I'm sure quite a few MPs probably didn't want to lose rep over a vote that isn't going to pass anyway.
 

Faddy

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So the Powell amendment failing was a good thing?

If the Powell amendment passed the Benn amendment would be sure to pass.

I think there were Tory backbenchers who didn't like the Powell amendment which is why it wasn't in the Benn amendment.

Still unsure if the Benn amendment will pass though
 

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It's incredible how TIG have managed to make themselves look as awful and conceited as the other parties in just a matter of weeks.
 

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18 Labour MP's voted against the second referendum amendment, this is the problem Corbyn and the rest of the Labour party has.
 

jelly

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Does that mean if May's deal loses again next week, it's shit hits the fan time and you get something wild like major extension, people's vote, revoke article 50 or crazy town no deal?
 

Faddy

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So no indicative votes...

For a government that is a collapsed mess the rubble seems to be sticking together.
 

Plasma

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So parliament don't want no deal, May's deal, a 2nd referendum or a delay to Brexit. They're an absolute fucking shambles.
 
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