This whole debate idea is meaningless political theatre. Two brexiteers arguing about current terrible deal that's worse than remaining versus unicorn slightly less terrible deal that's worse than remaining and has no time to be negotiated. And as PJV3 says, without a public vote at the end what's the point? It just seems like a bizarre hail mary play by the PM, to try and get the public inside in the belief that will pressure MPs to go along with her shitty deal.
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I'd like to see them both addressing their points to empty chairs, Clint Eastwood style.
I'd like to see them both addressing their points to empty chairs, Clint Eastwood style.
See we can be even more of a laughing stock than we already are, i really hope nobody backs down.
I don't think either of them can back down. After all this is supposed to be about who can negotiate the best deal for the country with regards to Brexit, so whoever capitulates is going to look weak (which will inevitably be highlighted in the debate by the other).
Of course, the irony is that because they apparently can't agree to a compromise on the debate format, they both look like incompetent negotiators, and neither should be trusted to organise a piss up in a brewery, let alone one of the most complex and difficult political negotiations of modern times.
A short Twitter thread full of juicy stuff thanks to a cabinet minister being too loud in a restaurant.
the best one
Burger King sponsored pot holes
this has got to be some AI generated text
May prefers a debate where she has her back covered by her own panel of experts. This is hilarious.
Believe she was referencing this https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...oles_us_5b1efa17e4b0adfb826cb01c?guccounter=1 which is hilarious considering that only exists due to massive problems with US infrastructure maintenance.
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Ifffff they do rule the UK can unilaterally cancel brexit that would be a net positive and a huge hand grenade thrown into the process late on. It would remove the ability to blame the EU for everything and expand the choice to May's deal, no deal and cancel article 50.
If the commons don't vote in agreement of either, you have to imagine voting to cancel the whole thing, even if the intent is to restart the entire process would start looking a lot more appealing as April approaches.
It's this idiot, and i don't think anyone with half a brain wants the fast food companies filling potholes.
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These A&E waiting times are finger-lickin' good.
My rail ticket just went up more than the rate of inflation again... i'm lovin' it.
It's dicey, especially considering the fate of an entire country is at stake, but the only way I see things working out is if No Deal is staring us in the face come March, and a majority of MPs finally twig that they're about to be responsible for the biggest self-inflicted economic-shock this country has faced since Black Wednesday.
I see the conservatives are trying to bury the issue until after the vote by referring it to the Commons Privileges Committee.
This ignores the fact that there are other parties in play here. The UK cannot just unilaterally decide to do Norway. that requires agreement on the part of all other EFTA members and the rEU27.
BBC has pulled out of the debate race:
Maybe my bias is showing but it did sound like a bit of a mess, even if a wider spectrum of Brexit opinions is probably more reflective of the nation.
Not sure how Corbyn is gonna fair with a head to head, he's just gonna get drowned for 'not having a position' ad infinitum.
Maybe my bias is showing but it did sound like a bit of a mess, even if a wider spectrum of Brexit opinions is probably more reflective of the nation.
Not sure how Corbyn is gonna fair with a head to head, he's just gonna get drowned for 'not having a position' ad infinitum.
The public don't want to remain and don't want another vote - so remaining as things stand would be pretty terrible at "ending it".
That being said, there seem to be very few paths that stop Brexit being synonymous with British politics for like the next 10 years.
Number 10 and the BBC working in cahoots was incredibly shabby and damaging to our democracy, so I'm glad their little game didn't pay off.
To be fair can't say for sure what the public want. Maybe ask them.
Can you do a Norway without the EFTA bit?
I'm unsure how that works seeing as the member states set it up themselves.
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Yeah, but could the UK have a Norway style agreement but as a solo nation outside the EFTA?, the EFTA was set up by the countries in it, not the EU if i understand correctly.
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I guess the UK could start it's own free trade area.
I propose the UKFTA. Finally people from Edinburgh will be able to freely trade with people from Birmingham.
I dunno how it works in detail to be honest.
Opposition parties win vote on government being in contempt of parliament by 4 votes
The opposition parties have won the first vote on the government being in contempt of parliament by 311 votes to 307.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ourages-anti-brexit-campaigners-politics-live
The opposition parties have won the first vote on the government being in contempt of parliament by 311 votes to 307.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ourages-anti-brexit-campaigners-politics-live
The debate plan was awful, good to hear it's not going ahead.
Geoffrey Cox looking "somber" in chambers as the Commons returns from the second vote. Uh oh?
Contempt!
Bloody hell. Ministers found in contempt of Parliament. I honestly don't think anyone knows what to do next :D
More than anything, this shows May has no Majority.
Bloody hell. Ministers found in contempt of Parliament. I honestly don't think anyone knows what to do next :D
More than anything, this shows May has no Majority.
"Andrea Leadsom, the leader of the Commons, is opening the debate. She starts with general comments about Brexit. (Leadsom, of course, is an enthusiast for this project.) Labour's Kevin Brennan makes a point of order, and asks what relevance this is to the business motion.
Leadsom is now discussing the business motion now".
lol, nutter.
Leadsom is now discussing the business motion now".
lol, nutter.
I wonder what they are hiding. Is it something really embarrassing like the rest of world 'allies' particularly think the UK are morons for doing anything other than remaining that will cost them hugely on the world stage or that the UK can or can't wiggle it's way of everything in the deal, sshh don't tell anyone.
So what happens if parliament says they want EEA and May aswell as EU say no?
On another note, is ERA also slow for you guys?
Yeah, mental. Still has the nerve to say trade outside the EU is the place to be even though it doesn't add up. Clueless.
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