I was listening to a brexitcast and they felt if it come to it, the EU would extend, but they felt it would go to the wire, like last day wire...businesses must be doing their nut
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I was listening to a brexitcast and they felt if it come to it, the EU would extend, but they felt it would go to the wire, like last day wire...businesses must be doing their nut
I just don't see it considering everything. We could even promise "Right after this GE/Referendum/new PM, we'll sort this out" but I don't think the EU would trust us.
I'll happily eat crow if I'm wrong and they do extend it but I don't see it.
Right now, I see May Deal, Remain, No Deal will happen. No extension.
May is cutting it close. Knowing her luck London gets snowed in and delays the vote again to Sunday 20th January at 11.50pm.
Frankly, they should take no deal off the table and have May's deal or rescind Article 50. As delaying the vote to the last minute using fear of a no deal to force her deal through is as bad.
Frankly, they should take no deal off the table and have May's deal or rescind Article 50. As delaying the vote to the last minute using fear of a no deal to force her deal through is as bad.
isn't their position that this is all that can be done under the circumstances, that was the background diplomatic chatter from the summit, which is fair enough, you don't undermine a sitting government.
Again?
Make up your mind!
Also May can literally nope.
For those not au fait: This was is not a confidence vote in statue against the government that can cause an Election but an opposition day motion that'll just he embarrassing for the PM.
She could just say there is no parliamentary time and ignore this.
Perhaps the loons of the ERG have promised him votes or something, it seems strange for Corbyn.
So, he does nothing, and he is lambasted; he does something, and is lambasted.
Legally? Fuck all. The PM's position doesn't rely on the confidence of the House, only the Government does.
Politically? It'd be deeply humiliating. It should force her to resign, but I don't think she'd resign even if she lost a proper VoNC.
Parliament does not sit at weekends.
And the 21st of January is a paper tiger.
The only important date is the 29th March, specifically midnight CET.
Thanks very much.
This may get some use if things go a certain way...
JRM announced his confidence in May this afternoon to the house. Will be funny if he backtracks again.
I missed that, what a wally.
He must think he's getting no deal out of this.
so the choice for May is agree to hear this motion and almost certainly be embarrassed but face no actual consequences instead of a real vonc that could be the end of her government.
Correct, that is the general way of things when people discuss Jeremy Corbyn. It is absolutely pathetic.
Listening to and considering the feeling in the House of Commons is now a bad thing?
No, just a possible extension to the "implementation period" AFAIK.
I don't think it matters much from a practical standpoint, but it looks a bit indecisive and he's starting to get a reputation for playing political games with Brexit, one of his strengths when he became leader was being principled.
I just think it is interesting that the 'informed' commentary for the last week has been Jeremy Corbyn should take a bold action in the HoC then when he does the narrative immediately shifts to all the ways it was wrong, rather than how it will impact PM, govt and Brexit.
He could try doing something right. Ever think of that?
I mean the guy randomly chucks out a no confidence motion when people are leaving and his own deputy is on the radio saying May's answer satisfied them, and your response is to do a recreation of this argument:
It's not that bad, i think instead of demanding a date he should have demanded a debate ASAP, he's doing something at least, it's not easy when the government hold all the cards.
We could have been debating how to properly eat a bacon sandwich instead! What larks we could have had.
No it isn't and tactically it's the absolute right thing to do.
He was tantalisingly close to perfect in his tactics today but blotted his copy book when he looked like calling off proceedings when May said she would indeed hold a meaningful vote before the 21st...one parliamentary day before.
Nope may, nope.
It's not a proper VONC, that's doomed to failure unfortunately at present.
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