No. EEA countries are outside the customs union and conduct their own negotiations.
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No. EEA countries are outside the customs union and conduct their own negotiations.
I never said that. He's not a racist, he's just happy to pander to them because he's a cunt.
I'm a bit hazy on this myself, but it's been interpreted by some commentators as a Norway-style "we get consulted but our our input can be easily ignored" (and i'm also hazy on how true a reflection of the arrangement Norway has btw) .
You joke, but I genuinely do think some of these idiots have no idea how collective bargaining works.
Though in fairness they're Tories, so why would they? Those mean trade unions just get in the way of their swivel-eyed free marketeerism.
Here's an idea. Let's stay in as we already have that.
I don't understand why Corbyn campaigns for things we already have yet he won't get behind a referendum and staying in the EU.
You know what would have really close ties to the single market and a say in EU trade deals?
Depends what he means by "a say". He probably kept it vague for that reason. Norway technincally has a say, where they lobby the EU to defend their interest in certain cases.
A say doesn't have to mean a veto. The UK would be by far the biggest third party country (and bigger than all the EU nations except Germany and maybe France) so it could be possible that something could be worked out. The EU didn't exactly dismiss it as unicorns yesterday did they?
Anyway we'll probably never find out because the DUP called it "plan F or G" today which means they're not even going to try.
Anyway we'll probably never find out because the DUP called it "plan F or G" today which means they're not even going to try.
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A "say" in corbyn's mouth, means a VETO, he spoke about it many times, he is deluded.
The EU does not allow non members states to have a formal say or veto in its negociations (and thank god), end of story really.
They didn't because it was about altering the political declaration, which is non binding and pretty much worthless. With out without corbyn's adds it changes nothing, the EU wants the WA signed, if the UK needs a worthless baby hochet to think it won something and get it signed, sure, write whatever you want in the political declaration, who cares.
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I really can't imagine why Ireland would not want to join the UK back and be all stronger together in a union of almost equals.
I wonder if Scotland can get independant fast enough to avoid having the nuclear waste dumped on them after this fails.
All things considered, it's kind of crazy how much of Brexit's pathos can be traced back to the unreleased tension created by Heseltine and Major's machinations against Thatcher.
Because he's more at risk of losing Leave voters than Remain voters and because a second referendum probably wouldn't keep us in the EU anyway. It's honestly not complicated.
It's all fantasy while at the same time his losing his own support who want to remain.
As Tusk pointed out the government and the opposition are both clueless. Corbyn wants to cherry pick from the best parts of being in the EU and that's simply not on.
Is he actually losing his own support though? There are a handful of MPs getting their voices out there to save face but there's not much to actually support any major decrease in his actual support. In terms of voters though? Single issue voters on Brexit unfortunately don't have a party to vote for outside of Scotland and Labour hasn't been relevant here in years anyway.
I don't disagree his proposals are similar unicorn nonsense, but they are at least more easily negotiable than May's.
Whether or not a significant number of Labour voters decide to defect a different party because of Corbyn's approach to Brexit, I think it's pretty likely that disillusionment with Labour leadership on the most urgent crisis facing the country will hurt enthusiasm and turnout among young voters.
err are you currently unaware of this situation the tories have gotten us in?
This is nicely done. "I look forward to working with you, however please note what you're going to ask for is out of the question."
One of the few good things about Brexit is that it has provided a fantastic glimpse at how European diplomacy works. A lot of people are going to walk out much wiser.
First of all, I don't trust a politician's word. But if this shit is just landing NOW on them...
People didnt learn from the Greek fiasco. People wont learn from the British fiasco.
Edit: Seems all the government departments just started looking at all the shit a hard Brexit would affect. OMNISHAMBLES
They are ones who have brought us to the brink of it happening
Catch it? They are actively promoting it.
This guy has been on 4 times and got to speak every time.
https://wingsoverscotland.com/aunties-favourite/
This isn't a BBC mistake, it is a deliberate action where the producers court far right wankers to appear on shows. Unfortunately in scotland there are so few they have been caught reusing the same person
This was me in November.
They're still at it. Although now Corbyn has described his pony is also actually now a unicorn.
Good article on which regions will be hit the most in the event of No Deal (or probably, even Shitty Deal).
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/02/07/world/europe/brexit-impact-on-european-union.html
I was expecting a bigger impact on Italy and Spain on account of agrifoods, but it looks like the biggest damage will be infliced on manufactures.
I'll be keeping that map close by the time actual trade negotiations start.
seems weird that Mecklenburg-West Pomerania is more impacted by Brexit than effing Bavaria.
There' very little evidence to back that up. Quite a bit in the other direction though.
I wanted to ask a question about this point that this person is making; is there any argument that voting for Tory remainers in a hypothetical situation where doing so would make the UK more likely to remain by disregarding the referendum results or would make a Norway/EU model more likely to be passed in Parliament is better than voting for Labour leavers or Labour leave-sympathizers who would take the UK almost totally out of the EU entirely?
I've seen people say in other contexts that the only thing standing between the Tories and their aspirations to turn the UK into the United States (aside: as an American, I wouldn't wish this upon you or anyone else) is the EU and its regulatory bodies that keep the Tories from doing so.
Is this an accurate way to look at things, first of all, and second of all, is there any argument that damage could be minimized by voting for or otherwise supporting Tory remainers that would keep the UK either inside or closely under the regulatory watch of the EU over Labour members who prefer to leave?
It's hypothetically possible but I can't think of a real world example of a Tory remainer in a marginal constituency running against a staunch Labour leaver.
Probably because Kate Hoey and Frank Field probably won't be Labour MPs come the next election and Graham Stringer is on thin ice too.
I'd like to extend my most sincere congratulations to the UK for finally achieving Spanish and Italian levels of misgovernment.
This UK government is actually worse then the government that caused the crises in Greece, even the Greek Government at that time managed to speak in a single voice.
From Empire to bankruptcy/not mattering anymore, it happened so many times in history. I guess its time for UK to finally kick the bucket.
Ugh fuck... we really have become Greece / Italy / Spain.
I hadn't seen it before that post. :(
Man the BBC is really going downhill fast
BBC bans EU flag at Eurovision event - and provides Union Flags instead
BBC bans EU flag at Eurovision event - and provides Union Flags instead
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