When you consider that ~60 Tory MPs recently voted against the government to make a point this probably isn't what they hoped for.
May will not budge off her deal for anyone. We are rapidly approaching decision time because there's nothing else.
I would buy the argument for "the poor Leave voters who got deceived" if the majority of them were still not insisting on their original vote, many of them clamouring for No Deal even. These are all adults and at some point individual responsibility kicks in. The truth of the matter is that they haven't changed their mind because no rational argument will cure their xenophobia and superiority complex over the rest of Europe.
None of us in the @remainernow community (ex leavers) are absolving ourselves of the blame. But equally, our choices are based on information we are given by people that we expect to know more than us.
In my case, i grew up in a xenophobic and anti eu household and the poison fed to me from a very young age. Now the reason this poison existed in the first place lays squarely at the door of the media and politicians peddling this crap over decades.
Yes i could have made a better choice but at the time i was being told in simplistic terms how easy it would be. I didn't understand complex trade issues or that the WTO even existed along with many other issues i now know about.
This issue was simply way way too massive for the average joe to even begin to comprehend, and even now with myself knowing shitloads about all areas to do with brexit, i'm still nowhere near an expert in anything so the average person certainly won't be either.
They should just revoke A50 and be done with it.
I grew up with grandparents who were racist and multiple uncles who were racist, who had no compunction to make racist statements right in front of me. I didn't just adopt those beliefs. I knew exactly when statements being made were racist and pointed them out as that. Plenty of people do this. Plenty of people know better.Morality is 100% learned behaviour. The reason you end up having pockets of terrible people is exactly because people pick up that behaviour from their families and peers. They don't know any better.
I grew up with grandparents who were racist and multiple uncles who were racist, who had no compunction to make racist statements right in front of me. I didn't just adopt those beliefs. I knew exactly when statements being made were racist and pointed them out as that. Plenty of people do this. Plenty of people know better.
Again, people need to stop rejecting responsibility. If someone tells you a certain type of people is always this way or just straight out bad in some way, and you just fall into line with that, that's on you as much as it is the person saying it.
More like Phantom.It needs Mogg replying that she should sign up for xbox live and Sony will cave in to her demands.
Looking forward classic conservative think tanks telling Tories how tariffs on imported produce and interventionism are that good shit.
Thinking about how much blame should be assigned to voters for a decision like Brexit has me quickly devolving into thought spirals about the nature of free will. However, from a pragmatic perspective, the environments within which we exist massively affect the kind of persons we are. It's why the welfare state exists.
A majority people voted leave at the previous referendum, but blaming voters isn't going to change that or make it any easier to stop the catastrophe that is Brexit. The truth is, sources of information that they trusted did lie to them on an unbelievable level. I also think David Cameron is massively to blame, because it meant that when people did start saying how bad Brexit would be, a natural response would be surely if it's that bad, it wouldn't have been put up to a vote. I voted remain, but I have very limited knowledge about the complex interactions and inter-dependencies of EU member states, at the time even less so. I thought that Brexit was overall worse than Remain, but never conceived it could possibly be this bad because I never would have imagined that such a thing would have been put to a referendum if that was the case. Furthermore, 'Project Fear' at the time was just 'Project Understatement', because even Remainers massively underestimated how important the UKs relationship to the EU was.
The one place where 'blame' is useful is when it comes to identifying what got us into this mess, reflecting on that, and then digging ourselves out of it. MPs who actively lied need to be held accountable for a start.
Not sure if this has been posted... but holy fuck, the state of these people.
I... I just... hrm...A survey by Populus found that 28 per cent of both French and Italian people believe the UK has already left the bloc. Meanwhile, 12 per cent of Germans also believe Britain departed some time ago, and two per cent of British people themselves make the same mistake.
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Most respondents to the survey believed that Brexit will do more harm than good, especially when thinking about its effect on the UK – 59 per cent of people in Germany think it will be harmful for Britain, 41 per cent in France, and 38 per cent in Italy. Just 34 per cent of people in the UK believe the same thing.
Meanwhile, Euronews commissioned Populus to do an EU wide poll on Brexit, and as per Independent:
I... I just... hrm...
What's the name of that yellow duck pokemon again. The one that constantly has a headache. I think I'm gonna make it my spirit animal.
Meanwhile, Euronews commissioned Populus to do an EU wide poll on Brexit, and as per Independent:
I... I just... hrm...
What's the name of that yellow duck pokemon again. The one that constantly has a headache. I think I'm gonna make it my spirit animal.
LONDON (Reuters) - England's High Court on Tuesday gave Aviva, Britain's second largest insurer, approval to transfer around £9 billion in assets to a new Irish company just before the starting gun is fired on Brexit.
The move, timed for 2259 GMT on March 29, is part of a wider withdrawal of business and money by financial companies seeking to keep contracts and policies within the European Union even after Britain departs. Brexit formally takes effect at 2300 GMT on March 29.
Not sure if this has been posted... but holy fuck, the state of these people.
As you are travelling outside of the EU, you don't need to do anything 'special'So, some Brexit/travel advice. I'm flying with my family to Hong Kong (my partner and I used to live there) on the 1st April. I've obviously got insurance with quite a hefty amount that I can claim through cancellation. I don't think it will be affected by Brexit but you never know, I've got a friend to watch my house in case looting kicks off big style (I'm joking, we watch each others' houses every time we go away).
Is there anything else I should/could do? We're only going for 10 days.
Not sure if this has been posted... but holy fuck, the state of these people.
Yep. Lying bastards. Said it would be easy, would improve things yet here we are now being told we could be paying loads extra for things by the same people. We really are in what feels like a banana republic. It's telling this isn't being called out on the mainstream channels except 4...
Heidi Allen, Anna Soubry and Sarah Wollaston have just left the Conservative party.
What is the latest status with regards to flights anyway? Last I saw we'd worked out EU travel in the event of a no deal, but I don't know about the rest of the world (apparently most of the issues are to do with insurances / safety certification).As you are travelling outside of the EU, you don't need to do anything 'special'
Heidi Allen, Anna Soubry and Sarah Wollaston have just left the Conservative party.
I believe there is an agreement in place for flights, driving is a different matter though.What is the latest status with regards to flights anyway? Last I saw we'd worked out EU travel in the event of a no deal, but I don't know about the rest of the world (apparently most of the issues are to do with insurances / safety certification).
As you are travelling outside of the EU, you don't need to do anything 'special'
Personally, I'd try and avoid being out of the country on the 29th, we're coming back from NL early, just to avoid an issues.Well unless mad max brexit happens and UK drops out of all the flight agreements, in which case who knows what happens.
Coming up to 1 month until the deadline date. I've been out of the loop for a few weeks so just catching up now.
I've cancelled my Porsche 911 order due to the surcharge, gonna get a British built Honda Civic Type-R inste.... DAMNIT.
Well PMQ will be fun now.
May has went from "Lol at the Labour party" to "Well we didn't lose as many MPs as you".
Didn't they all just vote against a parliamentary motion of no confidence in their own government though?
Didn't they all just vote against a parliamentary motion of no confidence in their own government though?
So is it a party or not?, if not, what's the point of defecting to a non-party?