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I think it will, simply because it's been made so toothless by a lack of amendments, and nobody but the most extreme Brextremists wants a March 29th crash out.
Yeah. I cannot imagine a turn around of 150 votes from MV2 to MV3 in less than a week though. So it just keeps the uncertainty rolling until then and still nothing will have been ruled out.
The EU aren't going to make something that changes nothing a condition for extension.
And yet they have said time and time again that should the UK want to have another referendum they would agree to an extension. Same for if there's a general election.
I don't know what conditions the EU is going to put on an extension, just that they're going to put conditions on an extension. They don't have to give the UK an extension after all, so they aren't going to agree to it without getting something in return.
Maybe you're right, but a second referendum just means we end up back in this same position again in a couple of months.
I can't believe I'm saying this...but the chaos is fun...so...:
Brexit Mouldy K?
This is bad comedy.
American here, so correct my ignorance, but the EU asking for a 2nd ref or a GE in exchange for an extension seems like the exact thing that would drive your tabloids mad lol.
Nothing short of a complete rewrite of the political system will help.
They know damn well British MPs are just going to waste more time otherwise. It wouldn't be a first.
Great, an extension....now we just need to figure out what it will be used for.
At least we will have elected officials to figure this one out.
Oh....oh wait.
At least we will have elected officials to figure this one out.
Oh....oh wait.
It would make more chaos which is only good thing about politics atm
Today has been a very good day for Theresa May.
She can seek it, but it's up to the EU to agree to it.
She can seek it, but it's up to the EU to agree to it.
Not only that, they just voted down the very amendment that would allow them to do other options, including the two you just listed.
They just hamstrung themselves.
Absolutely mental.
Only way forward I can see is if the EU impost a second referendum or an election as an absolute condition of an extension.
Quite frankly this parliament is never going to agree on anything.
Quite frankly this parliament is never going to agree on anything.
My question is does she *have to* present the extension to the EU Council or she can decide to present the request to extend.
Big difference, although I'm guessing the latter.
Bercow needs to deny MV3, only way we will move forward from having 'meaningful' votes on Mays 'new' deals for however long we manage to beg the EU for.
Just imagine the reaction from the Daily Mail commentariat lol.
I don't think the EU would dare use a 2nd referendum or GE as a condition for an extension because it would be viewed by Brexiters and the media as the EU directly interfering their country's own affairs, and it would only enforce the perception that the UK needs "take back control" from the big, bad EU. And if a 2nd referendum did happen on those terms, the Leave campaign would use it as fuel to drive more conspiracy theories and anti-EU sentiment amongst the public. I do think the UK's hand needs to be forced on a 2nd referendum, but I don't see the EU doing it at all.
I have no clue how the UK plans to get out of this, and it seems like the only winners in this (highly likely) no deal scenario are a few assholes in parliament and the disaster capitalists who will swoop down like vultures as everything goes to shit.
That would be amazing.
Greening talking about condensation in flats. Come have a look up north, they put black mould on my inventory.
Nah, the Daily Mail and Sun headlines basically write themselves if they do that, skyrocketing EU resentment with the public.
EU DICTATES TO THE UK HOW WE CAN LEAVE! THOSE CONTROLLING UNELECTED EU OFFICIALS!
Then Leave would win another 2nd ref. No thank you.
Just revoke A50 pls.
A vote to (attempt to) delay leaving, and in the meantime, they'll all sit around and lick each others hoops. What the fuck is the point? Government won't call another election, there won't be another referendum when we look at the results of that vote, EU won't renegotiate. Hopeless shite.
He won't deny it, because he know it will fail and give May a mandate to pursue a long extension (and later a 2nd ref). Remember, MV3 is being presented as Deal vs Long Delay.
Pro-No Deal lobbyists are lobbying the Italian government for just that.
So only when the parliament votes for Mays deal on March 20th an extension until June is possible?
No deal would have such devastating consequences in the short term that it would rattle the entire global economy (including everyone in the EU) and everyone knows it. If one country were to defect theyd lose the trust of the entire EU.
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