Why? I just know five partys of that list.
Just shows the polarisation of the electorate.
UKIP and Brexit party is basically british AFD so that's 29% + 16% conservatives which are basically CSU at this point.
Makes sense, Overread Brexit Party. The name gives it away.UKIP and Brexit party is basically british AFD so that's 29% + 16% conservatives which are basically CSU at this point.
45% for far right nutters.
UKIP and Brexit party is basically british AFD so that's 29% + 16% conservatives which are basically CSU at this point.
45% for far right nutters.
I think the longer this drags on the higher the likelihood of Brexit not happening now.
Jesus, the combined percentage of all Brexit parties is utterly terrifying.
Seen on a litter bin in an affluent part of Sunderland today, handwritten on white paper, an exhortation to withhold Council Tax if the government fails to deliver Brexit. I'm constantly flabbergasted by the political illiteracy of my fellow Mackems.
This is extremely misleading as it's comparing GE vote with EP vote.
LAB slightly up and CHUK/GRN slightly down but it's pretty close to YouGov's
seems like UKIP/BREX are just splitting their own voters rather than attracting new ones.
Your maths is pretty flawed there, largely because I assume you're counting the Tories as a pro Brexit party in 2014 which is inaccurate, even if it is true now. Labour is also Pro Brexit now so really the numbers have shot up massively due to the realignment of party views. Even if you remove Labour and the Tories entirely Pro Brexit parties have gained 3% based on those numbers.This is extremely misleading as it's comparing GE vote with EP vote.
The two systems have completely different electoral mechanisms (FPTP vs a form of PR) so obviously people vote differently.
UKIP are massively down! The pro-Brexit vote is massively down! These poll results are INCREDIBLY GOOD.
Where were you all in 2014 when this shitshow started? 5 years later and NOW you're horrified, terrified and disgusted when this shit is finally getting turned around?
2014 EP results:
UKIP - 26%
Labour - 24%
Tories - 23%
Green - 7%
Lib Dem - 6%
2019 Polling:
Labour - 24% (NC)
Tories - 16% (-7)
BXP - 15% (+15)
UKIP - 14% (-12)
Lib Dem - 8% (+2)
Green - 8% (+1)
CUK - 7% (+7)
That puts pro-Brexit parties down 4, and anti-Brexit parties up 10.
I think the Tories as a Eurosceptic party is a fairly solid read.Your maths is pretty flawed there, largely because I assume you're counting the Tories as a pro Brexit party in 2014 which is inaccurate, even if it is true now. Labour is also Pro Brexit now so really the numbers have shot up massively due to the realignment of party views. Even if you remove Labour and the Tories entirely Pro Brexit parties have gained 3% based on those numbers.
Some of them were, but it was most definitely not party policy. Labour are now pro-Brexit so the pro Brexit numbers are still higher regardless.I think the Tories as a Eurosceptic party is a fairly solid read.
"Brexit" might not have existed in 2014, but the Tories were very much a party of Euroscepticism back then.
So are we expecting there to be some results before the new deadline or just kicking the can until the last minute?
There are two options:So are we expecting there to be some results before the new deadline or just kicking the can until the last minute?
Lammy said broadcasters including the BBC were allowing "this extreme hard right fascism to flourish".
He said he was deeply concerned about the future of the country if Brexiters such as Rees-Mogg and Johnson took control of the Conservative party. "What kind of country are we going to be like if these people are running it?" he said.
Asked if he was saying that Rees-Mogg and Johnson were the modern-day equivalent of Nazis, Lammy said: "Ask Boris Johnson why he's hanging out with Steve Bannon."
I posted an article on the last page where it says May might bring MV4 next month for one last shot to avoid EU elections.So are we expecting there to be some results before the new deadline or just kicking the can until the last minute?
He is good on creating public assets (de-privatisation) and austerity. Policy wise he is great. In a fair world he would get a chance but he won't get it because of the party base, which might see him as another Obama (translation: 99% racism and 1% legit concern about a turn to a centrist Labour), or the voting public at large.Of the current crop of MPs from the main national parties, Lammy would absolutely be my pick for PM.
UKIP are massively down! The pro-Brexit vote is massively down! These poll results are INCREDIBLY GOOD.
Where were you all in 2014 when this shitshow started? 5 years later and NOW you're horrified, terrified and disgusted when this shit is finally getting turned around?
2014 EP results:
UKIP - 26%
Labour - 24%
Tories - 23%
Green - 7%
Lib Dem - 6%
2019 Polling:
Labour - 24% (NC)
Tories - 16% (-7)
BXP - 15% (+15)
UKIP - 14% (-12)
Lib Dem - 8% (+2)
Green - 8% (+1)
CUK - 7% (+7)
That puts pro-Brexit parties down 4, and anti-Brexit parties up 10.
Nobody is perfect, news at 11. Still one of the best picks to be had right now.He's great on some issues like this and Windrush, but get a grip guys.
I think you mean Dan Jarvis.What happened to Dan Hodges, wasn't he begged to run against Corbyn?
He's great on some issues like this and Windrush, but get a grip guys.
I think you mean Dan Jarvis.
He's basically been knocked off the map. Could say he's biding his time, but I don't think the current Labour membership would like him very much.
Nobody is perfect, news at 11. Still one of the best picks to be had right now.
At some point, we have to let the Iraq war go. He's the best right now and no one is perfect.
So you think that all politicians get to choose to vote in line with their core principles and beliefs? It's all about painful compromise to an imperfect party vision. It's fucking horrible and takes a certain mindset.He's great on some issues like this and Windrush, but get a grip guys.
I would not describe this anywhere near close the realm of incredibly good, it is arguably an improvement depending on how one looks at it, but either way given all that has transpired so far, how brexit has shown itself to be so obviously bad, seeing numbers like this should worry anyone with a stake in it.
Just in case anybody was thinking this Brexit thing would go smoothly:
The whole Settled Status shambles is a disgrace.
There is a pernicious, perfidious, running narrative being given oxygen by our media that failing to deliver Brexit will unleash forces of pro-Brexit chaos into our democracy.
Any polling or election results that show that to be a nonsense are to be welcomed. We may be halfway into the abyss, but we are clawing our way out of it, not sinking further in.
At some point, we have to let the Iraq war go. He's the best right now and no one is perfect.
So you think that all politicians get to choose to vote in line with their core principles and beliefs? It's all about painful compromise to an imperfect party vision. It's fucking horrible and takes a certain mindset.